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Album ,
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A blog of another website's report on what reddit users wrote.

Nice.

soulfirethewolf ,

I don't hate copilot but I seldom use it enough to justify having a taskbar button for it

wildncrazyguy ,

I use it to ask questions I’d otherwise google, I also had it tell me some jokes and also present a list of interview questions for a candidate in our field.

That’s cool and all, but I do want my “show desktop” button back.

glouriousgouda ,
@glouriousgouda@lemmy.myserv.one avatar

Maybe I am just out of touch with the what the majority thinks, but this is honestly surprising. I am very glad to hear it, but yeah, I didn't expect this reaction. Maybe from us Linux folks who just like reiterate the FOSS sentiments in protest, but not this. It's refreshing.

Moobythegoldensock ,

They pulled all their info from a reddit thread, though. Even though it was a Windows 11 sub, reddit tends to have more polarized opinions than most.

e8d79 ,

Blogspam that links to a 'news' website that just regurgitates this reddit thread. Somebody explain to me why is this upvoted so heavily.

Martineski ,

Coz noone reads that stuff besides the title.

sadreality ,

The vibe is right tho lol

Daxtron2 ,

Windows bad, updoots to the left

magic_lobster_party ,

This is the high quality journalism we want

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

powered with state-of-the-art AI

joe_cool ,

The real journalism is always in the comments. Or how did that go?

JustARegularNerd ,

I mean the minute you see "Copilot bad, from windowscopilot[dot]news" should surely raise some flags

EatATaco ,

Windows bad, ai bad. Upvote. Thought isn't a big consideration here.

canis_majoris ,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Lemmy sucks at sourcing but rocks at being opinionated.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

O&O shutup 10.

oo software

sadreality ,

The fact that owner of the device has to do tbis and it resets after major updates is clown world.

People let this bullshit get way too far.

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

you can also delay windows updates that change things.

At least it's better than Mac. With Mac the user has 0% control over what happens on their system. Apple can just yoink anything you have off your system whenever they want. Software, files, anything.

Zuberi ,

Lol at using windows ngl

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i know you hate to hear this, but you wont get rid of these shenanigans unless you move to linux.

proprietary software devs will always be looking for more ways to monetize you.

scrubbles OP ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I am on Linux. I just posted about what Windows users are saying.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

oh, i reckon most people in this nice little corner of the internet are communist programmer atheists using linux and firefox, and are likely some flavour of queer.

lost_faith ,

Ya got me on the atheist and firefox thing

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

For the average user this is like a minor annoyance like once a month. Not worth switching OS's over.

blind3rdeye ,

Yeah, it's a minor annoyance... another minor annoyance on top of all the others. And another personal data leak (or siphon) to go with all the others.

This on its own is not worth switching OSs for - but as a piece of a larger picture it's yet another reason to consider it. And for some people this may be what tips the scales in their evaluation.

drcabbage ,

It's a boil the frog scenario. Windows users will always cope with more and more shit thrown at them.

Statick ,

And Linux fanboys will get up on their high horses while googling how to fix their driver issues.

Miaou ,

Certainly better than throwing a perfectly working machine because Microsoft won't support it 🤷‍♂️

my_hat_stinks ,

This may have been true historically but I'm not sure it still holds up. I switched to Linux Mint as my regular OS a while back and the only driver issue I've had was that the installer didnt properly install my wifi card's proprietary driver (which was working during live boot from usb), so I had to tether to my phone to download the driver through the driver manager. It even installed Nvidia drivers just fine.

It might still be an issue for more barebones or heavily customisable systems but I'm fairly certain nobody's recommending people switch to Arch for their first Linux experience.

drcabbage , (edited )

Driver issues usually only happen if the manufacturer doesn't provide a Linux driver. Usually it is best to do some research to ensure the hardware will work before purchasing. Otherwise, the driver usually is included with the kernel so it is plug and play even for things that require manually downloading and installing on the Windows side.

Also, I'm not trying to get on any high horse. I personally think Linux is a great alternative to Windows and would love for everyone to at least try it out and see if it is right for them. It could save them tons of headaches and open the door to a new skill set, or just to breathe new life into that old laptop in your closet gathering dust. Linux has a lot of great uses that aren't possible with Windows. Give peas a chance.

Statick ,

Oh, I use both, I was just poking fun. That being said, I unfortunately I don't feel comfortable trying to get my parents on Linux... or even friends.

Most people just want things to work and won't do any sort of troubleshooting themselves. "It just works" is worth the intrusiveness that comes with Windows.

cooopsspace ,

There's been tens of dozens of annoyances over the last decade.

Literally not even boiling the frog at this point, the frog is fried.

tias ,

I mean canonical also tries to monetize its users. The problem is more shareholders who want profit than the software being proprietary.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

yeah, ive been meaning to switch, but it doesnt really compare in sheer quantity of little crappy things stacked on top of one another.

i think the main thing though, is that i can switch away from ubuntu and still be on same ol linux. and switching the rare stuff i dont like is as easy as doing it once and never worrying again.

summerof69 ,

Canonical has nothing to do with Arch Linux, so I don't see what's the issue.

tias ,

And I don't see why Arch is relevant to the discussion. My point is that software being non-proprietary is not a guarantee for preventing fuckery like Microsoft's. Profit-maximizing companies will maximize their profits, proprietary software or not. Canonical, which sells a non-proprietary Linux distribution, is an example of this.

yoz ,

Unfortunately windows users don't have choice.

DdCno1 ,

Normal users can quickly hide it with a taskbar setting, power users (or those who can Google) can disable the feature entirely through a group policy.

laurelraven ,

Shouldn't have to, it should be something to enable or better yet install

Salvo ,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

‘Data Detectors’ in MacOS are just as bad. Just like how sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes a string of numerals is just a string of numerals.

It is not a phone number or a flight number or a ticket number, it is just a string of text that happen to all be numerals.

I asked Apple Support how to disable data detectors in Preview (MacOS’s native PDF and image viewer) so I could highlight some part numbers without MacOS trying to make a FaceTime call and they told me to use Adobe Acrobat instead! The problem is that Acrobat is worse.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

I'm having a bad day.

Can someone reassure me that idiots using copilot aren't suddenly going to become more effective and productive than me?

Blackmist ,

Maybe, but you'll get the last laugh when they rely on it for everything and it is eventually whisked away behind an enormous monthly fee.

victron ,
@victron@programming.dev avatar

That's based on OP's assumption that everyone who uses copilot is an "idiot". There are people out there actually using such tools in meaningful ways instead of whining because "ai bad". That people will have the last laugh.

Simon ,

Windows power users? My ass. Any Windows power user knows you can just turn this shit off with group policy. I think what you mean is 'we need something polarizing to write about hurrr'. That website is a joke.

Take your shitty garbage journalism back to buzzfeed you fucking hacks.

expr ,

I mean, it still doesn't change the fact that no one actually wants this shit.

Simon ,

Sure. Let's not rub each other off too hard over it though.

letsgo ,

Actually I quite like it...

Mastersmacks ,

Its not the worst, and If I'm honest its not as annoying as the desktop view button, I hated that thing since day 1

GlassHalfHopeful ,
@GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

I logged on to my father's computer today to fix a few things for him and was immediately overwhelmed with all the Windows bloat. This includes copilot and... so... much... more... 😖

Mastersmacks ,

One trick I found is disabling edge (renaming the install folder) basically disables half the bloat from even running, your copilot button just doesn't even load in

averyminya ,

Can you list the filepath?

GlassHalfHopeful ,
@GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

So weird that so much is integrated into a web browser.

Zacryon ,

You get AI tools shoved down your throat everywhere nowadays. Whether you want it and it's useful or not.

Salvo ,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

Please don’t call them AI. They are “Language Learning Models” (or “Spicy Autocorrect” if you want to be cheeky).

Copilot is no more “intelligent” than Clippy from Microsoft Bob in 1995. It just appears to be to people who also have low intelligence.

soggy_kitty ,

People who don't understand how LLMs work aren't necessarily of low intelligence.

Don't get ignorance and intelligence mixed up. People of low intelligence do that

antonim ,

Ehhhh, if you have expertise in ANY field outside of like programming, you can easily test various models and see that they produce a lot of crap. That doesn't require you to understand how LLMs work exactly.

Zacryon ,

It's not just text generating AI, like those transformer models, but also image classificators and generators, time series predictors, and a bunch of other stuff you get.

But yes, even though you seem not to like it, it is AI.

Copilot is no more “intelligent” than Clippy from Microsoft Bob in 1995.

I can't share that experience.

It just appears to be to people who also have low intelligence.

That's a bit condescending, don't you think?

hobbsc ,

The distinction is irrelevant and "AI" is what businesses and normal folks call this stuff. Just like the age old arguments that the media should say something like "cyber criminals" instead of "hackers" or "cloud" is just other people's computers. LLM, GNU/spicy-auto-correct, whatever. To the populous it's all "AI".

Salvo ,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar
xyguy ,

There's a new proof of concept malware that when an AI processes it causes arbitrary code execution and spreads itself to everyone on the victims email list.

This requires no input from the user

Yes please put more of this crap into every crevice of the OS.

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