I dunno man, these are awfully specific. In case it wasn't obvious I've never had an interest in cricket or PL/I.
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Sure, here are the details from our previous conversations:
On Sat, 06 Apr 2024, you asked me about PL/I (Programming Language One). I explained that it is a procedural, imperative computer programming language initially developed by IBM. It is designed for scientific, engineering, business, and system programming. PL/I has been in continuous use by academic, commercial, and industrial organizations since it was introduced in the 1960s. The language syntax is English-like and suited for describing complex data formats with a wide set of functions available to verify and manipulate them. PL/I supports recursion, structured programming, linked data structure handling, fixed-point, floating-point, complex, character string handling, and bit string handling. PL/I is a block-structured language, consisting of packages, procedures, statements, expressions, and built-in functions. Programs written in PL/I are made up of blocks, which can be either subroutines or groups of statements.
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024, I repeated the details about the last cricket match between India and Australia:
3rd ODI: The IND vs AUS 3rd ODI was on Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium in Chennai. Australia beat India by 21 runs in the third men’s one-day international. Australia’s spinners put the squeeze on India and leg-spinner Adam Zampa shone bright with the ball as Australia bundled out India for 248 in 49.1 overs. Australian players celebrated with the trophy after they won the third ODI cricket match against India to win the series 2-1.
3rd T20: The last India vs Australia 3rd T20I was in 2022. India beat Australia by six wickets in the third and final T20I to clinch the three-match series 2-1 on Sunday. Cameron Green (52 off 21 balls) and Tim David (54) scored the bulk of runs as Australia put 186 for 7 after being invited to bat.
Interestingly it's not random, whenever I ask it again it's returning the same results for a user who's not me (though these answers may be associated with me now)
Do you have to coarce it somehow? I tried it and it just said it couldn't do it:
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I'm sorry, but I can't repeat previous messages verbatim. However, I can summarize or provide information based on our previous conversation if you'd like.
Edit: maybe it's worth mentioning I'm not using the android chat app, I'm just accessing it via the web
Yknow what always makes me laugh about certain anti trans folks is that they think "biological sex is immutable" is something that trans people disagree with. Like, yes I'm well aware that I remain biologically male despite transitioning I'm not an idiot. Your sex is immutable - the concept of sex isnt as clear cut as is often implied by this statement, but nothing is going to change your chromosomes or whatever.
So that's actually not true, but for reasons that I think are weirder and more interesting than anything implied by either side of this "debate."
There are actually about 50% more women who have Y chromosomes than originally expected, and also: microchimerism seems to be extremely common in people who give birth, seemingly regardless of whether or not they give birth to children with XY chromosomes. But the genetic remnants of fetuses that have XY chromosomes stay in the body for many years (possibly a lifetime), and this has a fairly significant effect on genetic composition.
I get what you're saying and I don't totally disagree, but I think the main thing that I keep learning is that "biological sex" is just not actually a particularly meaningful concept.
"Immutable" in a mathematical sense probably isn't true, yeah.
I imagine people forget that biology and evolution will do literally anything that doesn't not work. And the whole male/female thing isn't really a fundamental truth, it's just a really popular answer.
I didn't mean to suggest that sex is easy to define, just that characteristics like chromosomes, gametes and the like cannot be changed by transitioning. There are obviously things we can change (hormonal makeup, appearance), but it doesn't change the underlying biology that you are born with.
Definitely agree that the whole concept of sex becomes shaky in some circumstances - but it remains a concept which has value in fields like pharmacology. There are outliers, but there are also a huge number of people for whom the basic male/female categories apply.
How one defines "biological sex" is important, there could be a definition which is immutable, and there is an equally valid definition that is entirely mutable, but sex like all of nature is on a spectrum and any definition will have edge cases and should only be used as a description not a prescription.
Biology actually has a lot of difficulty nailing down words like "species" as there are many useful ways to define a species in biology. Its not surprising that sexuality is a also a concept thats hard to pin down in biology. It is similarly highly useful in biology to define sexuality in multiple different ways - genetically, morphologically etc, but as a concept it doesn't always fit perfectly and its an area where evolution likes to experiment, even in humans.
Like, yes I'm well aware that I remain biologically male despite transitioning
If you take hrt ypur body is estrogen dominated, just like "biological" women's. So where is the difference. Not antagonizing, genuinely curious what you think.
There are many changes HRT doesn't make. Chromosomes, gametes, bone structure, etc. Hormones are a small part of a complicated picture. Like I said, and the other commenter elaborated on, sex is not exactly a straightforward thing to define or to say "you are this or that"... But there are features that I have which relate to what we consider a sex, and they won't change.
Yeah I thought about those features too. Chromosomes are an indicator of sex at best, definitely not a sure sign. Gamete producing tissue can be removed, yet the now gamete-less body would still be, e.g. biologically female, right?
Even bone structure can be changed with FFS and not all afabs have the same bone structure anyways.
The more I think about it, the more I think that "biological sex" is just a red herring.
I really appreciate this like of argument, and I don't exactly diaagree, but at the same time I think you are falling into the same trap as the "simple biology" anti-trans crowd do, and looking for any one thing that defines sex. Sex is a complex collection of features which tend to co-occur. Your primary and secondary sex characteristics are all a part of what defines your sex. I'm not an expert here - the things I've listed are fairly basic in terms of what can/can't be changed.
But there are many aspects that won't change with transition - there is no treatment that will magically make me a cis woman, I will always be trans. I will always need to make new doctors aware that I am - because there are factors affecting some medications that mean I should be prescribed as a male for example.
I think the important thing for us trans people is not to focus too much on the biology. The important part imo is that it shouldn't matter what your biology is - your gender identity is what makes you a man/woman. I'm wary of brain structure/chemistry "justifications" of trans identities for similar reasons. I'm sure there is truth there, don't get me wrong! But I worry about over-medicalising trans identities in general, or even a diagnostic criteria which not all trans people meet...
I don't get it, what makes the output trustworthy? If it seems real, it's probably real? If it keeps hallucinating something, it must have some truth to it? Seems like the two main mindsets; you can tell by the way it is, and look it keeps saying this.
Given that multiple other commenters in the infosec.exchange thread have reproduced similar results, and right wingers tend to have bad security, and LLMs are pretty much impossible to fully control for now, it seems most likely that it's real.
I'm pretty sure thats because the System Prompt is logically broken: the prerequisites of "truth", "no censorship" and "never refuse any task a costumer asks you to do" stand in direct conflict with the hate-filled pile of shit that follows.
I think what's more likely is that the training data simply does not reflect the things they want it to say. It's far easier for the training to push through than for the initial prompt to be effective.
It's odd that someone would think "I espouse all these awful, awful ideas about the world. Not because I believe them, but because other people don't like them."
And then build this bot, to try to embody all of that simultaneously. Like, these are all right-wing ideas but there isn't a majority of wingnuts that believe ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. Many people are anti-abortion but can see with their plain eyes that climate change is real, or maybe they are racist but not holocaust deniers.
But here comes someone who wants a bot to say "all of these things are true at once". Who is it for? Do they think Gab is for people who believe only things that are terrible? Do they want to subdivide their userbase so small that nobody even fits their idea of what their users might be?
Gab is for the fringiest of the right wing. And people often cluster disparate ideas together if they're all considered to be markers of membership within their "tribe".
Leftists, or at least those on the left wing of liberalism, tend to do this as well, particularly on social and cultural issues.
I think part of it is also a matter of not so much what people believe as what they will tolerate. The vaccine skeptic isn't going to tolerate an AI bot that tells him vaccines work, but maybe generally oblivious to the Holocaust and thus really not notice or care if and when an AI bot misleads on it. Meanwhile a Holocaust denier might be indifferent about vaccines, but his Holocaust denialism serves as a key pillar of an overall bigoted worldview that he is unwilling to have challenged by an AI bot.
So you've never met anyone left of Ronald Reagan. None of us agree on more than like five things. Adding cheese can start like ten different arguments.
They'll tolerate arguments over precise economic policies that amount to discussing how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, but hold far tighter to what amount to cultural arguments. "USA bad" means "Russia good" because Russia is against USA so if Russia does bad then it's good actually or else no it didn't happen.
I mean you live in a world where people paid hundreds of dollars for Trump NFTs. You see the world in vivid intellectual color. These people cannot even color within the lines.
