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Stop wearing Vision Pro goggles while driving your Tesla: U.S. transportation officials, Calif. police

Stop wearing Vision Pro goggles while driving your Tesla: U.S. transportation officials, Calif. police::Videos, many of them stunts or jokes, of people wearing Apple’s new virtual reality headset while driving Teslas in Autopilot mode prompted officials to issue warnings.

RIP_Cheems ,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

For once, I agree with California

Coreidan ,

Do you fucking job and then maybe I’ll stop wearing Vision Pro goggles while driving my Tesla.

laughterlaughter ,

Shut up, Elon.

Coreidan ,

No. Try again

Balooog ,

Just kind of an asshole then I guess

VampyreOfNazareth ,

I'm guessing they mean ACAB

Balooog ,

Gotcha makes sense now

ohlaph ,

Better yet, stop driving Tesla.

Guntrigger ,

So there was a guy in the "viral video" thread yesterday fighting tooth and nail for how harmful the video is even if it's staged, mainly on the premise thats bunch of people would copy and recreate it. They were getting downvoted to oblivion.

Here we are a day later.

Fudoshin ,
@Fudoshin@feddit.uk avatar

They were getting downvoted to oblivion.

Downvotes are a fucking curse. They were never meant for disagreement. They've just turned into low-effort echo-chamber creators.

TheFriar ,

Yup. The amount of times I saw a comment that was downvoted to oblivion for containing a shred of nuance and that required the most minute sliver of time’s worth of critical thinking getting downvoted unjustly boggles the brain. Downvotes are literally contagious for probably 50%-60% of users. When a few downvoted roll in to something slightly nuanced, the already small likelihood that people could engage with the nuance drops to absolute zero and the downvotes just keep piling up. Says quite a lot.

poopkins ,

Precisely. I abhor the phrase, but it's demonstrably a case of herd mentality.

poopkins ,

Ironically, I've been downvoted for saying this in response to somebody sympathizing with my previous downvoted comment that was expanding in support of somebody's highly upvoted comment with some background.

I think the general sentiment on Lemmy is that any comment reply must surely be in disagreement and receives an automatic downvote. Mostly I visit the comments for discourse and upvote interesting threads of conversation.

In my opinion, really there should be no downvote button.

max ,

It really is just Reddit 2.0 here sometimes…

Scolding7300 ,

This

grayman ,

This

TheGrandNagus ,

Always has been.

grayman ,

Monkey brains... You are describing an engagement vote, but what people are mashing is "like" and "dislike" at best but usually "agree" and "disagree". So yeah... Monkey brains prefer "agree" and "disagree".

Haha ,

As soon as i disagree with someone i get downvoted. Lemmy or anywhere else. Most are children so whatever

poopkins ,

You replied to me, so you're disagreeing with me, right? Downvoted.

poopkins ,

/s, in case that wasn't abundantly clear

poopkins ,

Wait, do I downvote myself now?

laughterlaughter , (edited )

I prefer to have downvotes because they give you a better picture than, say, upvotes only.

Popular or important comments in an upvote-only system will still float to the top. And now we don't know how many people disagreed (HA!) with them.

whoisearth ,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

I rarely downvote. If I disagree with someone that means no up vote most times. Downvote should be limited to spam, harmful or completely irrelevant.

I've been downvoted to oblivion before just because I don't agree with the hive mind. That to me is scary and people should be concerned that's even a thing.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

it's basically just hololens right?
also visionos is not the first "spatial os", windows 10 was the first. (ever notice how stuff has circular glow effect around it? it's supposed to show up around the pointer while using the os in vr/ar)
Microsoft quickly abandoned the idea tho as well as basically the whole uwp platform (which was supposed to bring the same apps on pc, windows mobile, xbox and hololens)

excitingburp ,

Hololens is slightly more advanced. At least the last I saw it uses waveguides etc. to overlay the content over a transparent panel. Much like Google glasses, but way, way more advanced (and therefore justifiably expensive - last I saw, again, it was something like $15000). AVP is no different to a $300 Quest (plus internal cameras for iris and expression tracking and obnoxiously bad FOV) - it's 10x Apple tax.

Hololens is still alive and kicking btw, but it's exclusively enterprise.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

HoloLens 2 was supposed to cost 3500$

also iirc there were cheaper hololens-compatible headsets made by third parties at the time (not anymore) marketed towards consumers

deranger ,

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    Holyginz ,

    So refute the information then.

    deranger ,

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    Coreidan ,

    Deep throat it harder daddy

    Holyginz ,

    If he deep throats it anymore it will be sticking out of his ass lol

    vox ,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    well if resolution is your main point, then there are cheaper headsets with double the resolution (8k/eye)

    Coreidan ,

    Keep deep throating that apple cock

    VampyreOfNazareth ,

    VR is great porn

    VampyreOfNazareth ,

    Microsoft should have stuck with HoloLens

    macattack ,

    I expect nothing less from Tesla drivers

    r00ty ,
    @r00ty@kbin.life avatar

    Dante Lentini, 21, who posted a video of himself behind the wheel of a moving Tesla while wearing a Vision Pro headset, said in an interview, “It was all just for content.”

    Well, maybe when they revoke their licence they can tell them "it was all just for other people's safety".

    HerbalGamer ,
    @HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

    It's just a prank content bro!

    ArmoredThirteen ,

    The new goggles have a feature that merges digital apps and one’s surroundings into one immersive space

    Isn't this just AR? We've had that for years. Or is it somehow different from existing AR?

    Benaaasaaas ,

    Ah, you seem to have made a rookie mistake, poor people are using AR, apple users are using spatial computing

    ArmoredThirteen ,

    Oh shit I don't want to be a poor people I need to get something with spatial computing!

    BeatTakeshi ,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    That's the point where you sell your fridge and cut on baby diapers for your kids

    Dran_Arcana ,

    It is slightly different, but in a way that's worse.

    AR uses a transparent overlay over reality perceived through a translucent surface, or at most a small subset of your vision is replaced. Think sunglasses with a screen you can see through, or a small corner of your vision is blocked by a tiny screen.

    In Apple's "spatial computing" cameras recreate and alter reality, nothing you see is with your own eyes because no part of the display is transparent.

    Benaaasaaas ,

    AFAIK there is no strict definition for AR how current reality has to be implemented, and both transparent and reprojected have their advantages and disadvantages. For example it's much harder to "pin" augmentation on transparent AR, on the other hand latency and FOV are big issues for reprojected AR.

    Zron ,

    You ever seen the myth busters episode where they try to drive a car through cameras and computer monitors?

    It didn’t go well

    Benaaasaaas ,

    While I completely agree that it is a very bad idea to drive with one, you have to give credit where credit is due. Apple really did an amazing job at reducing latency of the passthrough. That being said it's still added latency and it's a very very narrow FOV so please don't go driving/walking around with that thing.

    eager_eagle ,
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly, it's VR with passthrough.

    I have to laugh at "spatial computing" though.

    pineapplelover ,

    Ima call it vr with passthrough from now on

    datelmd5sum ,

    And VR with passthrough has been a thing at least in pro grade VR for like a decade.

    ben_dover ,

    apple never released any tech that wasn't already "mature" - mp3 players existed before the iPod, mobile phones before the iPhone,...

    locuester ,

    AR uses a transparent overlay over reality perceived through a translucent surface

    No. Apple even has an entire library called ARKit to do Augmented Reality on a screen. For them, it has never meant transparent.

    Dran_Arcana ,

    Just because developers name libraries things doesn't make them accurate. Generally when something is misnamed it's because of backwards/intercomaptibility or just design decisions that differ from original implementations and it's no longer feasible/reasonable to refactor to a different name.

    Examples:
    windows 7 was version 6.1, windows 8 was version 6.2, windows 8.1 was version 6.3
    Java 5 was versioned as 1.5, continuing the convention from previous releases 1.2-1.4
    Hell, where I work we use an automation workflow with functions called stuff like "create_and_assign_citrix_security_groups_to_static_containers" that has long since been adapted to work with vmware and other non-virtualization platforms like k8s. Refactoring those functions would mean refactoring any external automation that uses these libraries, just like refactoring versioning schemas would break compatibility with any external software that relies on an assumption that windows >xp would be 6.X.

    locuester ,

    I understand what you’re saying, but politely disagree. The OP of this thread asked “isn’t this just AR”. In the context of Apple - yes, it is.

    Dran_Arcana ,

    No hate if you disagree, your reasoning is sound. I just think that naming, especially in the new tech space, goes beyond pedantry. We have words that are specific enough to describe two similar technologies, but we only retain shared understanding of those words if we collectively use them. It may be the case that AR evolves to be commonly understood as encompassing both technologies but they are fundamentally different in how they work, whatever we choose to call them.

    laughterlaughter ,

    Oh shit. That makes them less appealing, then.

    I wish I could say this scenario is unlikely, but nowadays? Who knows! So, picture this:

    • John likes to use his Apple goggles from 11pm to 1am.
    • Hackers get into his googles and install some malware.
    • Now they can walk in front of John without being seen.

    That wouldn't happen if the goggles were truly transparent.

    VampyreOfNazareth ,

    Be real, it is spatial pornography.

    bdonvr ,

    It's pretty good AR from what I hear but still AR.

    eager_eagle ,
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    pretty good VR*: all of the user's field of vision is digitally (re-)created.

    r00ty ,
    @r00ty@kbin.life avatar

    If you load up an AR app on your phone, it will often overlap the augmentation over the camera image. So I think reprojecting the outside world using cameras and augmenting that in VR is also a form of AR. Maybe we need a new name for this specifically, though? I don't know. But maybe AVR or VAR?

    eager_eagle ,
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    We don't need another name because it's a very common - almost expected - feature in VR headsets. My headset has monochromatic cameras for passthrough, but it's still a VR headset.

    Also, often the whole idea is that this passthrough layer can be toggled at anytime or even gradually mixed with the computer-generated reality, so creating another name will just increase confusion.

    calavera ,
    @calavera@lemm.ee avatar

    I'm not sure about your definition of AR, but if the camera is showing the real world plus digital content then it's augmented reality.

    Here is some definition:

    In virtual reality (VR), the users' perception of reality is completely based on virtual information. In augmented reality (AR) the user is provided with additional computer- generated information within the data collected from real life that enhances their perception of reality.

    eager_eagle , (edited )
    @eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

    showing the real world plus digital content then it’s augmented reality

    But it isn't. AR means direct optical contact with the real world augmented with a digital / computer-generated layer. What Apple's VR does is recreate the real pov digitally using cameras, so it's VR.

    Apple's tech builds a digital world and adds a "reality" layer on top - meaning the user only sees displays. AR's like Google Glass do the opposite, adding a digital layer on top of the real thing.

    NightAuthor ,

    I can assure you, there exists no such consensus on the definition of any of the terms.

    The most universal you’ll get for AR is the combination of primarily real-world with some digital aspects.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality–virtuality_continuum

    I’ve read extensively on the topic. Albeit a couple of years ago.

    ArmoredThirteen ,

    According to that page I'd consider this headset to be augmented virtuality. But yeah these are all gray areas

    NightAuthor ,

    The terms are up for definition, I’ve read a ton and there is no specific consensus about optically seeing reality

    Suburbanl3g3nd ,

    Apple already invented the phrase/name: Spatial Computing

    r00ty ,
    @r00ty@kbin.life avatar

    I was thinking more of a general term. I can imagine apple putting all kinds of trademarks over any term they're going to use.

    snek ,
    @snek@lemmy.world avatar

    I watched some reviews about it. Yes, it's basically like having an iPad screen taped to your eyes.

    HobbitFoot ,

    AR of that visual quality has required the user to be stationary and tied to a large computer.

    Cosmicomical ,

    AR just means augmented reality, it says nothing of how it should be implemented

    Petter1 ,

    How can people be so stupid.. At least, a VR headset is easy spottable by police and those bastards can be removed from the streets.

    maniacalmanicmania ,
    @maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone avatar

    I thought that was Xander from Buffy at first.

    breakfastmtn ,
    @breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca avatar

    And Jesus wept for there were no more worlds to conquer

    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/community-sitcom/images/b/b4/Cbbc3b70-c9b2-11e4-9028-b3ffb2d4aab0_Community_Lawnmower.jpg

    iamericandre ,

    Stop saying Jesus wept

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    I wonder if your downvoters know that this was a line from the episode

    iamericandre ,

    Probably not

    TheGrandNagus ,

    Stop saying stop saying Jesus wept

    VampyreOfNazareth ,

    Give me money for my church

    moogar0880 ,
    @moogar0880@lemmy.world avatar

    World's within worlds!

    uriel238 ,
    @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Speculating on the vastness of the universe, Alexander wept. Asked why, he replied Is it not worthy of tears, that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one?

    caoimhinr ,
    @caoimhinr@lemmy.world avatar

    First we had the Glassholes, now there's Prolapses.

    autotldr Bot ,

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Videos being shared across social media this week depict an almost dystopian, futuristic scene: drivers of Teslas in Autopilot mode while wearing Apple Vision Pro headsets, seemingly unaware of the road in front of them.

    The new goggles have a feature that merges digital apps and one’s surroundings into one immersive space, and videos of people wearing them in strange settings have started to crop up across the internet since they were released on Feb. 2.

    Dante Lentini, 21, who posted a video of himself behind the wheel of a moving Tesla while wearing a Vision Pro headset, said in an interview, “It was all just for content.”

    Across social media, videos and images have circulated not just of people driving while wearing the Vision Pro headset, but also while dining at restaurants and working out at the gym.

    Eric Decker, a YouTube and TikTok creator who goes by the name Airrack, posted a video poking fun at an “average day for an Apple Vision Pro owner,” showing him wearing the headset while lifting weights at the gym, getting his hair cut, going through airport security, walking down a street and even showering.

    Apple has billed Vision Pro as a “spatial computing” device that allows users to watch videos, send emails and surf the internet in a immersive virtual reality.

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