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adespoton , to Privacy in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

Endemic end-to-end encryption just means that everyone is now protected from interception.

I’ve been using PGP and friends since the 90s. Most people who LE should be targeting for investigation have likewise been using strong encryption since the 90s.

Most cases get a break due to the failure of opsec or due to chance or standard gruelling detective work and the fact that people are social animals.

So what exactly is Europol arguing here?

possiblylinux127 ,
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They probably want to bust people in bulk

sexy_peach ,

They don't even want to bust them. They just want to intercept

refalo , (edited ) to Privacy in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

as a neteng for 20+ years, what the hell is "home routing"

giacomo ,

its routing without the Pro license.

refalo ,

does it come with bgp though

cyberpunk007 , (edited )

😂. "Oh you wanna go to the internet? Sure, let me NAT and route you to my gateway. "

jonne ,

It's basically when you drag an Ethernet cable behind you wherever you go, with the other end still plugged into your home switch.

LostXOR , (edited )

So that's what those massive 1000 foot Ethernet cables are for!

onlooker ,
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It's a process of telling houses where to go. Why do you think homes never get lost?

SteveTech ,

My understanding after reading the article is: while roaming your phone sets up a VPN type thing with your phone provider, and routes calls and data through this tunnel, so now Europol has to deal with another country if they want to track you.

Alborlin ,

I am in dire need of such solution just because I moved with Europe but don't want to let go my old number, fortunately I visit one 6 months but what if I pass the deadline?
Besides Google won't let me use my Balance unless I have that specific counties card in phone and it's active...
If you know how to do it let me know.

TheGalacticVoid ,

Home routing is when you connect a cable to your PC and the wall. Your home then uses that connection to join the Dark Web, and you allow hackers to stay at your home temporarily to escape the government. Those hackers jump from house to house, evading the authorities.

(/s)

BumpingFuglies , to Privacy in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

"The issue" that needs addressing is the obsession our governments have with spying on us.

wallmenis ,

What confuses me is that we, the people, have the upper hand according to democracy. So no classified information should exist within the people for democracy to function propperly.

kylian0087 ,

Except that their are so many people that have no idea how the internet or such technologies work. And happily hand over their private lives cause "nothing to hide" BS.

Haui ,
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Also brainwashing. People get their ideas from other people. Some through books, some through those they call experts but we‘re very easily influenced. Getting blasted with biased shows and commercials that show us how „fair“ law enforcement is makes people easy targets for pushing dangerous laws.

possiblylinux127 ,
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Whoa, take it easy there. You wouldn't want to awaken John Lock

wallmenis ,

I really didnt think much when I sent this. I should remember next time so that I don't become the next target of the NSA

possiblylinux127 ,
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dies

drwho ,
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Fizz , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns
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Good, privacy is why they are being used. The government has plenty of legal ways to invade a person's privacy, perhaps they should consider using them.

hoshikarakitaridia , (edited ) to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns
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lawful interception

Idk bout that. Usually you get a warrant for wiretapping and then you pay someone to install it. If they are trying to break encryption or identifying users, that means they inherently are doing something the law does not favor.

Let's also acknowledge that if encryption is bad because it cannot be broken, that means encryption is pretty good at what it should do.

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Ensign_Crab ,

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

DeCSS.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Everybody vote for this guy for president.

I mean really......who else are you going to vote for? Spiderman? Yeah,I would too, but we have a two term limit!

Bell ,

Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Uhhh ransomware?

KISSmyOS ,

If they are trying to break encryption or identifying users, that means they inherently are doing something the law does not favor.

They've been trying to change that law multiple times for over a decade.

Badeendje ,
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I read this the other day.. the issue they face is on the warrant side, cross border investigations have a 120 day lead time. So instead of actually integrating police and making sure time sensitive investigations get treated as such... They whine about PET.

EuroPol seems to be something like the FBI.. who operate across all US states. But in the EU the countries are still very separate and require such ridiculous things as proof and due process. And that's fine... It just needs to be sped up.

sunbeam60 ,

Europol is merely a clearing house, standards process and coordinating agency for how national police forces work together across the EU states. It has very, very little power. Unfortunately.

insufferableninja ,

based on this article, i would say it's fortunate that they have very little power

sunbeam60 ,

You’re assuming the national services are better, I suppose. In my experience it’s been the EU who has struck a better balance between privacy and investigative powers than the crap they’re pushing for nationally.

treadful ,
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Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.

Cracking Enigma was something that needed to been done.

hoshikarakitaridia ,
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Alright I'll give you that

GrundlButter ,

Kinda drives home another point too. Breaking someone else's encryption is something you do to enemies. If you're trying to break my encryption communication or installing a backdoor, you're an enemy, simple as that.

My eternal thanks to FOSS, and open encryption standards.

bruhduh , to Technology in Sony is killing off recordable Blu-ray, bidding farewell to disc burning | TechSpot
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Bluray disk cost 25$ for 50gb and usb flash drive cost 5$ for 64gb

todd_bonzalez ,

The 25GB disks are like 10¢.

bruhduh ,
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Where? I see only 30$ for 5pack of 25gb bd-r

Switchy85 ,

I'm not sure what country you're in, but have you tried Amazon? I found Verbatim 50 packs of 25GB for $40 and Ridata (usually good quality discs) for $28. If you want small amounts there's various 5 packs for less than $10.

olutukko ,

for 35€ you can get 512gb flash drive. kinda insane to think about that. maybe even cheaper but that was just what I found from my local store

bruhduh ,
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Yes, flash memory came a very long way, when current nodes of 3nm going to be old enough for mass producing growth memory, there's gonna be 5tb microsd cards probably, since we're already having 2tb ones https://www.tomsguide.com/news/the-worlds-first-2tb-microsd-card-is-here-what-you-need-to-know

mojofrododojo ,

the storage density growth is so mindboggling that I find myself hesitant to trust it lol. 2tb?

fuck me running

resonate6279 ,

It's getting harder and harder to make things smaller, but they are making things thinner now, which means they can layer them, thus increasing density.

ciberConas3000 ,

Damn, a 50gb blu ray costs 2€ in my country.

prole ,

How can I afford to buy Criterion Collection Blu-Rays for $14.99 if blu-ray discs cost $25?

FlyingSquid ,
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Economy of scale and also slightly different, but related, media format. Criterion has them printed in bulk.

prole , (edited )

Yeah ok, but as we've established in this thread, Blu Ray discs don't cost $25 a piece. At any level. So.

FlyingSquid ,
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Again, writable Blu-ray is a slightly different format from what you would buy with a movie on it. They are not putting Criterion movies on the same discs you could burn them to in a drive.

Cethin ,

That's read-only, not read/write, plus they're buying bulk.

Drusas , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

Good!

DirigibleProtein , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns
Lost_My_Mind ,

One of these guys went on to be a very wholesome beloved actor.

And the other........I assume is still alive.

Blackmist ,

The other one is Keanu something. He was in a terrible film about a man falling down some stairs, I think.

Vaggumon , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns
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Oh no.... Anyway

Grass , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

man, I do my homelab for hobby and better performance. this is bonus.

disclaimer: didn't read the article past the paywall fade out. and I'm too lazy to circumvent

SatansMaggotyCumFart , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

We should give them universal admin privileges.

Lost_My_Mind ,

checks username

Well this seems like a guy I can trust!

homesweethomeMrL , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns

tents fingers

wesker , to Technology in Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder, Europol warns
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Lol. Uh, good?

ulkesh ,
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Came here to pose exactly this. While I support proper and ethical law enforcement, the Snowden leak clearly showed just how unethical my own government is willing to be to enforce laws. So whatever tools I have at my disposal to prevent unlawful search and seizure, I will use them.

xep , to Technology in Microsoft bans China-based employees from using Android devices for work, mandates switch to iPhones

Sounds like Google's enterprise features have a dependency on Google Play (and presumably GSF) and Android phones in China can't be turned into work phones as a result. Makes a lot of sense.

Darkassassin07 , to Technology in Microsoft bans China-based employees from using Android devices for work, mandates switch to iPhones
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Any staff in the country using Android handsets, including those from Huawei or Xiaomi, will be provided with an iPhone 15, as a one-time purchase

Fuck off. If you're mandating what device I'm to use for work; you're going to provide said device free of charge, or shut the fuck up when I use whatever I like.

thatKamGuy ,

That’s my read of it, or am I misunderstanding something?

Microsoft will purchase for their Android using employees an iPhone 15. The reference to one-time being that employees are only entitled to one, in the event they were to lose or damage it?

Darkassassin07 ,
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I could be wrong; but it came across to me as a "we'll sell you one at a special discount"

thatKamGuy ,

Fair enough; it’s a bit vaguely worded and could be interpreted multiple ways.

From my experience, big corporations have always either provided me with company-issued phones for official use, or offered an additional allowance if I’ve opted to use my own personal device.

Then again, given how absolutely absurd some of Microsoft’s recent decisions have been (eg. Recall) - you can’t really be certain.

turddle ,

Considering they are designating “collection points” for the phones, I think you read it correctly.

One-time purchase is probably to incentivize not losing/selling your company phone.

FlyingSquid , (edited )
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That's not how it works in "communist" China.

Workers don't have too many rights.

demonsword ,
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Workers don’t have too many rights.

Maybe not stellar but still better than quite a few of the 135 countries surveyed by this NGO in 2022. Behind Brazil, Russia and South Africa but ahead of India. Better than the so-called "land of the free" also, so maybe the joke's on them?

FlyingSquid ,
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That's a lot of whataboutism you're doing there.

demonsword ,
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sorry if the data I brought disturbed your China bashing, you're free to ignore it

FlyingSquid ,
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Oh poor China! How dare I bash such a paradise (non-Han Chinese excepted)!

demonsword ,
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👀

Freefall ,

In China you don't get to have that opinion.

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