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onlinepersona , in Can someone take over KBin?

You should be able to mark this as solved, honestly. There is already a fork that's been mentioned multiple times here. (MBin). Here's a list of instances.

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imaqtpie , in Can someone take over KBin?
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Kbin is more or less dead. You should probably switch over to Mbin, which is a fork of kbin that is in more active development.

This is the flagship instance, not really sure about any others.

https://kbin.melroy.org/

Or just use a Lemmy instance.

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Here is a list of mbin instances: https://fedidb.org/software/mbin
We do not really have a "flagship" instance, as we saw that it created a bunch of problems for kbin having one

Blaze , in What existing platforms do you wish were federated?
@Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

LinkedIn.

It's one of the last social media I have. Benefits outweigh cons, but I still would like to get rid of it

jol ,

I've been wanting to create this but I don't have enough experience making federated anything. Which parts of LinkedIn would you want replicated the most?

Blaze ,
@Blaze@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just being able to see interesting job posts in my field and area

But if you would like to contribute to Fediverse project, I would say that the current link aggregator options would have more impact:

halm , in The need for a Fedi Union.
@halm@leminal.space avatar

Phanpy, a mastodon frontend is somehow going to co-lead a battle against Meta? I'm not at all against unionising, but it sounds like you're cherry picking whatever you personally happen to use as representative of the fediverse.

adam , in fucking beautiful. almost a year into the 'verse and its starting to become more functional than that R place... better than i imagined.
@adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev avatar

If only k/mbin federated better - I'd be all over it :(

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Did you actually try mbin? Because we fixed a huge number of federation issues kbin had/has. Sure a bunch still need to be worked on, but we do our best and improve it with every release

fishos ,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

Not a fan of Melroy(mbin founder). They claim to have been a dev for Lemmy and kbin. Then when they didn't get the control they wanted, started their own instance. When that didn't take off, he ranted very publically once again about how the current team he was "working with" sucked and how he was the only true savior of the fediverse. Then he started mbin, which he named after himself(Melroy Bin).

His entire attitude has been "fuck you, I'm taking my ball and going home if you don't listen to me" from the start.

HARD PASS.

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

well I am an active mbin contributor and cannot confirm any of that. He never tried to contribute to lemmy as far as I know and trying to contribute to kbin is just a big disappointment (I've been there as well). As for the name, personally I don't care. It is just how it is and nowhere does it say "this is melroys bin" or something like that...

If you don't want to get involved that is fine, but the rumors around him are basically all false...

adam ,
@adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev avatar

I've not tried it but have been keep tabs.

The two main problems appear to still be ongoing PRs/issues; magazine/community sidebar content doesn't update and doesn't federate out at all to lemmy, and moderation actions don't federate at all (any of the various types) - which is particularly problematic.

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar
  • I've modified my comment in #248 because it needs investigating and if it is not working than it needs to be fixed/added
  • #694 is mostly done

Both of which are only relevant for magazines/communities hosted on mbin instances. But yes we still do lack moderation features. I am working on it (as you can see the issue and PR are authored by me), but there is just still a lot to do in various different regions

Diplomjodler3 ,

Is it supported by any app?

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Only interstellar afaik

Shyfer ,

Is that for Android or Apple?

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

android

DarkThoughts ,

I used kbin for a while and now mbin for quite some time. I primarily use the desktop website but one thing I noticed from when I tested some Lemmy mobile clients is that I saw a lot more different lemmynsfw communities & consequently threads, like a lot more.
What I don't know is if this is just a case of this particular instance, or if it is just more noticeable because of the content. kbin was even worse and barely showed ANY content from that instance, mbin was significantly more when I switched, which surprised me. But if we compare for example (pulled from the instance's frontpage):

https://lemmynsfw.com/c/ecchi
https://fedia.io/m/ecchi@lemmynsfw.com

We get a 404 on mbin. You can repeat this for a lot of communities there with the same result. If you search for this or other "invisible" communities in the Magazine search, then they also don't show up there at all:

https://fedia.io/magazines?query=ecchi&fields=names&federation=all&adult=show

If this is the case with other instances then I feel there's potentially a lot of active communities & threads that we aren't even aware of, but also potentially more fringe instances & communities.

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

On both you have to search for a magazine handle (magazine@instance.tld) if the magazine is not yet on the server. And not the magazine search but the regular search. It can of course be blocked by the instance, but most likely just nobody searched for it before.
Most mbin instances are very small and even fedia only has like 4000 total users... Therefore not that many magazines/communities have been pulled in, yet...

DarkThoughts ,

Seems like you're right. I tried it before without the actual domain ending in the magazine search which didn't work. I wish behavior like this and other stuff would be documented somewhere? Like, I still don't know what's the best way to universally link to communities / magazines or users that would work across the fediverse so that they continue using whatever platform they're on.

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Yeah our user documentarion could need some inprovements. Though I doubt a lot of users would actually look at it....

The best way to link communuties is with the !community which works on lemmy and Mbin, but not on kbin (I think)

threelonmusketeers , in fucking beautiful. almost a year into the 'verse and its starting to become more functional than that R place... better than i imagined.

What interface is this? Looks interesting.

ada ,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Kbin

runswithjedi ,

I noticed it said "Moist" at the top left, perhaps it is https://moist.catsweat.com/ ?

RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Following the link from there it seems to be Mbin

BentiGorlich ,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Nope, that is mbin :)

originalucifer OP ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

im running an mbin instance

https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin

Zak , in IFTAS release a guide to help instance admins comply with the Digital Services Act
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

If your server has member accounts in the EU, or is publicly viewable in the EU, your service is most likely impacted by this regulation, even if you are not based or hosted in the EU.

I am not pleased by the EU's attempts to assert extraterritorial jurisdiction just because things are viewable in the EU, and I hope that non-EU countries will not cooperate with any attempts to enforce it. Of course they do have jurisdiction over big tech firms that have a physical and legal presence there.

Imagine Russia or Iran doing something similar and the problem becomes obvious. The EU can, of course create a Great Firewall and block internet services that don't comply with its laws, but I think most of its citizens wouldn't tolerate that.

slazer2au ,

If you want to do business in the EU then you need to follow the EU rules.

Just like if you do business in the US you have to follow US rules, if you do business in China you have to follow Chinese rules.

Gdpr already showed that if you don't want to you can geoblock EU countries and not have to comply.

Imagine Russia or Iran doing something similar and the problem becomes obvious

Those countries already have rules that if you break the site is blocked. Remember the /r/drugs fiasco from Reddit years ago?
Companies who do business in those countries generally have a dedicated arm to deal with those countries in the form of sovereign clouds or will hire a local company to be a front for them.

Badeendje , in Fedi Garden to Instance Admins: “Block Threads to Remain Listed”
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

No way! Little dictators exercising the power they have. But it is their platform, they can do what they want right?

This is probably the biggest threat to the fediverse.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Threads is the biggest threat to the Fediverse.

GlitterInfection ,

Lets ruin it so they can't!

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Defederating from Meta won’t ruin it, it’ll protect it.

GlitterInfection ,

Bullying instance admins into aligning with your values is absolutely the type of behavior that will ruin this protocol.

Meta is evil and Threads is lame. And I can block them on my own, thank you.

spiderman , in I think I might have a problem
@spiderman@ani.social avatar

Please name all the sites in their order. Three or more look new to me.

MajikalMonkey2000 OP ,
@MajikalMonkey2000@lemmy.world avatar
spiderman ,
@spiderman@ani.social avatar

Thanks a lot, I will check the new ones out.

TheVillageGuy ,

Check out https://kbin.melroy.org as well, it's a forked version of kbin

fishos ,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

Lol no

melroy ,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

it is without obligation ;)

BentiGorlich , in Report – Unsafe: Meta Fails to Moderate Extreme Anti-trans Hate Across Facebook, Instagram, and Threads | GLAAD - might be a reason to defederate from Threads
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

Already defederated all servers I run from threads. It's just another reason why that was a good decision...

Gork , in Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy.

Is lemmy.world trying to appeal to advertisers? Kinda sounds like it. Banning discussion oriented piracy subs, outlawing paywall bypassing in news@lemmy.world, etc.

Feathercrown ,

I think they're trying to appeal to law enforcement

Ensign_Crab , in Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear

I predicted this when lemmygrad got defederated. I said that neoliberals were gonna identify some other instance as the "tankie instance" and start campaigning to defederate from it.

hamid , in Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear
@hamid@lemmy.world avatar

The least interesting thing in the world is people complaining about Hexbear, maybe that is why your comments were removed? Why can't you just block their comms and ignore them? Works for me, I have an account on .ml I use that federates with Hexbear and when I see things that I think are uninteresting, stupid or immature I just move on like a normal person.

BrikoX , in Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

Rules in question stated as a reason for removing the comments and temporary ban:

  1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
  2. Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/9dee0eb9-f0be-4ff4-98ed-233a995607fe.webp

People can make their own conclusions.

wizardbeard ,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Really the best choice here. Hooray for open modlogs!

Klause ,

Since when is calling out tankies racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia?

Lath ,

bigotry
ˈbɪɡətri
noun
obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

If the person in question went after them simply because they are part of the group called 'tankies', the first rule was broken.
If the person in question was the first to throw out insults, the second rule was broken.

If however the opposing group initiated the conflict, broke the same rules and was not punished, then the complaint here is fair and should be pursued in order to prevent an escalation of abuse.

...

The nasty thing about bigotry is that by definition, it doesn't matter which group is being discriminated against. It accepts all discrimination under its label.

exocrinous ,

Hexbear has bigoted admins. Their rules are fake.

BrikoX ,
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

Modlog and rules are from lemmy.ml, not hexbear.net.

Soullioness , in Lemmy.ml is acting as a proxy instance for Hexbear and should be defederated by any instances that defederate from Hexbear
@Soullioness@lemmy.world avatar

I'm all for defederating Hexbear, but lemmy.ml is absolutely huge compared to Hexbear. To motivate the community to do that you'd need quite a bit of proof. Or at least something rather compelling. Do you have any proof of what you're referring to?

ArmokGoB OP ,
kbal ,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

While I agree that hexbear generally sucks, they and I do at least have an enemy in common. That ban is not so undeserved as I was led to expect.

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