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Sp00kyB00k ,

Stop giving Elon attention

STOMPYI ,

Agree. Even if you think it's relevant or want to make a funny at his expense.

Sp00kyB00k ,

He desperately, like the despot he is, wants to stay relevant but let him become a blip in time.
Fade into obscurity.

captainlezbian ,

Please gods, don’t let Elon musk become a Linux evangelist

Harbinger01173430 ,

Too late

FrankTheHealer ,

Starlink already uses Linux the whole way up the stack. It's only a matter of time lol

evan ,

Doesn’t want to give Microsoft access to his computer but is installing poorly researched chips directly in to human brains

Pantherina ,

How stupid can a person be and still so rich. What is a "PC Laptop" and why would an account "give their AI access to my PC". Dude.

tubaruco ,

just proves he got rich with luck and not anything else

and also lying about basically everything he does or sells

db2 ,

It wasn't luck, if he were lucky he wouldn't have fucked everything he's ever touched up.

Floshie ,

Even a barbecue cannot roast that well

masterspace , (edited )

I mean, SpaceX is still a legitimate success story... I think that has a lot to do with Gwynne Shotwell and the engineers dedicated to pushing forward spaceflight, but as much as I despise him and even kind of want SpaceX to crash and burn just to spite him, if I'm being honest it is still the one thing he's touched that is a legitimate success, both technically and commercially.

db2 ,

But not because of him, it's in spite of.

wfh , (edited )
@wfh@lemm.ee avatar

Luck has nothing to do with it. Daddy's apartheid emerald mines money and megalomania got him there. He didn't invent anything, he's just a glorified investor. All of 'his' successful companies are other, smarter people's ideas he 'stole' by forcing them to make him 'co-creator' as a requirement to invest his cash.

It's all about pushing a narrative. If he did it the 'normal way', he would probably be seen as a decent VC, known in some business circles but in the shadow from a general audience perspective. By making himself the 'co-creator', he deperately tries to makes us think he's the genius he believes he is, and gain the power and influence that come with it.

There are positions in all these companies where people are working roud the clock to prevent him from fucking everything up. And sometimes, even they can't prevent idiotic bullshit like the Cybertruck. Tesla and SpaceX work because they actively spend a massive amount of energy to work against his moronic ideas. Twitter is the best example of what happens when he's given free rein.

NegativeInf ,

As opposed to an "Apple Laptop" because fascists are weird. And perhaps he's talking about Microsoft copilot being shoved into windows 11. But this is a very generous read. By no means do I like the guy.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Said the shithead who forced signing into Twitter to view content.

Honytawk ,

If only Elmo had the money for an Enterprise license ...

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

What Elmo needs is KMS38.

hex_m_hell ,
@hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net avatar

Why is "the most incompetent fascist alive can't use Windows" a Linux meme?

Honytawk ,

You guys kept upvoting all the "Windows vs Linux" memes.

This is a Windows instance now

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's nice to have an alternative... whatever that alternative might be... some of us do dual boot.

fox2263 , (edited )

Using another windows pc, make an 11 install USB by downloading Rufus USB. Then use it to download the English international windows 11 iso. After pressing start or whatever you get option to remove online account, make a local account, and remove system requirements as well as privacy questions etc.

Once installed, go to revi.cc and download the playbook and the Windows AME tool to “ameliorate” windows of all its bloat.

Sit back and enjoy a fast and local windows.

derpgon ,

I love that Rufus, just a simple bootable (not for Windows specifically) USB maker software, specifically targets a single piece of software (Win11) and offers you to install those mods. I find that kind of beautiful.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am so bummed that it doesn't have a Linux port! None of the tools for Linux have those tweaks in them!

NateNate60 ,

You can do it using a single terminal command run during set-up. No special images or imaging software required.

However, the point is not whether it is possible, but why it is so unnecessarily difficult. I think that question is easy to answer.

slazer2au ,

You can also install windows without an internet connection.

NateNate60 ,

You can, by using the terminal trick I was referring to. If you simply try to set it up without connecting it to WiFi or Ethernet, it will not let you go past that screen until you connect to a network.

hactar42 ,

Not anymore. The last version of Windows 11 I installed on bare metal did not allow the trick when you just turn off the WiFi. I had to Shift+F10 to get to the command prompt, enter "oobe\bypassnro", then reboot before it would allow a local account.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d2cf672a-b677-42ea-8107-2b7c3c15258c.png

Or just use a easy to use linux distro and you have less headache than that.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

For those of us that need to dual boot that is.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Finally, a sane person!

lemmeee ,

If he's so smart, why can't he use GNU/Linux?

itslilith , (edited )
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Please, let's not have Linux communities flooded by fascists and cryptobros that inevitably follow in his wake

SupraMario ,

You don't have to worry about that, they're way to stupid to install their own OS.

Johanno ,

On a different note.

I tried to install debian.

I will exclude my attempts to install debian Trixie since it is still in development however the net install doesn't seem to be working at all.

So I tried debian bookworm the live disc. It did install fine. Everything worked until I first booted the system. All I could see was some (fuck you Nvidia) Nvidia errors and that it couldn't start the ssdm so it threw me into the tty however debian per default disables the root account or whatever and the other account wasn't in sudoers file yet. So I couldn't log in into tty.

New install borked and no way of fixing Nvidia drivers....

So I used the normal image of debian. Then it worked.

Gnugit ,

Ahh, the quintessential debian initiation, welcome to the club.

Johanno ,

It isn't the first time for me installing debian, but back then you hadn't even the option of a live disk or sth like that.

cherryryu ,

if a user is not in the sudoers login as root and edit your /etc/sudoers. look for the line that starts with "root ALL =.." copy and paste it below with root replaced with your username

edit: nevermind I missed the part that said disabled the root account. that's weird not sure why you wouldn't be able to access root unless maybe a typo during password creation

Johanno ,

Nah debian on first install disabled tty completely. Probably sth. That gets setup later but it crashed before that

Randelung ,

Yeah, kernel is currently incompatible with driver. I'm manually booting -17 currently.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar
0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

You should've just linked to Rufus.

infrasoundxp ,

There's a tiny little white link on the bottom right side of that pane that says skip and then multiple panes after that with "yes, I'm really sure. F off Microsoft".

Still extremely easy to miss and hilarious that he did.

accideath ,

It‘s not actually there in current windows versions. It takes some sort of workaround and I think you actually need to use the cmd. It is possible though.

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

I think Microsoft ships slightly different versions in different markets.

kusivittula ,

last time i installed win10 on my desktop, the skip option definitely wasn't there, tried googling but couldn't find a solution so i had to create that damn account. next day my laptop that i need for school wouldn't let me log in anymore without an account. that day i joined team linux. btw i wonder if it would force that ms account crap if you had no internet at the moment?

2001herne ,

On windows 11, I believe you just can't set it up without internet. There's a couple of registry hacks you can do to bypass that though.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar
doctorcrimson ,

You actually have to make sure the device never connects to the internet in order to create a local only user account.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

I think it's there if you install pro or enterprise

accideath ,

Not anymore with pro, iirc. It worked longer than home but they changed that, I think. Dunno for enterprise.

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

This takes a few minutes to test, so I did.

TLDR: You can do it in Win11 Pro at least, but the interface tries really hard to steer you into a Microsoft account.

Used the Windows image tool at https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

This created me a 23H2 ISO

Created a VM in VMWare Workstation and started setup

When asked for the key, I chose "I don't have a product key"

When asked for version, I chose "Windows 11 Pro"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/bf2040e5-a86e-4fb5-944f-5394d52076b8.png

After the restart, during OOBE, it asks me how I would like to setup, I chose "work or school"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/05f4d394-583b-49fb-ac66-0f6c6ce8b966.png

When asked to sign-in to Microsoft, I chose "Sign-in options"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/ae723622-1a68-4262-b128-04858467a7b3.png

I then chose to "Domain join instead"

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/08c72851-341b-4277-8c49-87f4aba28a9c.png

I'm then asked to create a new standard user

https://lazysoci.al/pictrs/image/1aff7ffd-dee1-42ff-a755-0d13725e1b6f.png

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just use Rufus to make the USB... I mean, it's fairly simple to use it, and it asks you IF you give it a Windows ISO if you'd like to skip these things. There are other tweaks as well, like no BitLocker by default.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

Considering he's a moron and probably insane, I'm not surprised.

jol ,

He's not the most technically savvy person...

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

The irony!

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

Not since 11, even the no network trick doesn't work. With Windows 10 if you didn't give it a network it was like oh okay, I guess local account is the only choice.

Windows 11 has a screen that says it can't find any WiFi or Ethernet adapter, and that you need one and connect to the Internet. It really doesn't want you to not have a Microsoft account, you have to kill the whole setup in cmd and make the local account yourself. It's insane.

Sidyctism ,

As of recently, it doesnt even let you open cmd during setup. Found that out when setting up a win11 laptop for a colleague a couple weeks ago

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or just use Rufus to make the USB 🤷.

cyberpunk007 ,

I ran into this 2 days ago. Turns out if you sign in with no@thankyou.com and type in a bogus password it will just say "oops something went wrong" and you can create a local account.

OutlierBlue ,

I prefer gofuckyourself@hole.com

mods_are_assholes ,

my goto has usually been: nunya@fuckdamn.biz

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

Can't you just not connect to the Internet?

skintt ,

No, that's literally not an option anymore. The installer won't let you proceed without an internet connection unless you do the Shift+F10 oobe\bypassnro trick then have to wait for it to reboot.

Poem_for_your_sprog ,

Wow wtf? What if you don't have Internet? You can't use windows?

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Apparently, according to MS, no. According to Rufus, you can. Not only that, but it will allow you to install it in MBR mode, if you wish so.

skintt ,

This is indeed the quickest way to get round it.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bet it works with just about any bogus email and password.

OozingPositron ,
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

Do it Elon, take the Linux pill.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Fuck no, I think this is the one time we need to gatekeep.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Darn it, I really wanted to troll him in posts.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

No thanks. I don't want fake ass engineer Musk doing cringy programmerhumor tweets. He's already a edge lord with video games and I really don't want to see more communities propping him up because he tweets "sudo rm -rf hahahaha I'm sudo man" or whatever his cokebinged brain tells him

caustictrap ,

No one complains about ios/android requiring a login.

cirdanlunae ,

But, it doesn't? I have yet to log into a Google account

xia ,

I know that the shield (android tv) does.

bobs_monkey ,

Gotta have them sweet data tracking metrics

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Android TV is different than phone

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

It does ask you to provide a Google account (on Android), but you can just skip that step. You can't use the PlayStore to download apps, but that's about it. Everything else Google works, even updates, you just browse everything as anonymous (well... more or less).

Holzkohlen ,

You can with Aurora Store which you install via F-Droid.

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Install apps you mean?

tubaruco ,

aurora store lets you install stuff from the play store without an account

0x4E4F OP ,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, cool, that's good to know 👍.

tyler ,

Because they don’t. Neither iOS nor Android require an account.

Pantherina ,

Android doesnt, but a "non PC Laptop" does

WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

well, android really doesn't require a login

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