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possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Protecting your self is important not to mention shooting guns is fun.

pineapplelover ,

Shooting guns is meh. I still prefer shooting just airsoft guns

Quackdoc ,
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

I like both, airsoft does happen to be a whole lot cheaper though

pineapplelover ,

And I don't need ear protection

force ,

try to not go deaf by 40 after suppressor bans challenge [impossible]

boredsquirrel ,

Lol for protection you should have like... public healthcare and stuff

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Also true

ArcaneSlime ,

"Hello Mr. Deadly Attacker, you're going to kill me with that knife? Well watch out because I'm going to defend myself with this universal healthcare!"

Stab stab

"Oh no! It seems that concepts, lacking physical properties of any kind, are inadequate defenses against a knife which contains actual matter! At least my family won't be charged by the coroner if that counts as 'healthcare,' so that works out I guess!"

boredsquirrel , (edited )

An attacker in a society where everyone has guns, will have a gun. And you cant protect yourself against a gun, with a gun. Thats the point.

If you want to protect people, you should build systems that protect people, not give everyone a murder weapon.

Here, some numbers.

ArcaneSlime ,

See, that's where you're wrong. Not only does rely on an assumption that is flat out untrue, as people do get robbed and killed in America with other weapons all the time, but contrary to your claim guns can indeed be effective against guns, as cops, self defenders, and even gang members often prove.

I'm not going to bother going into the specifics on if you have a subsecond draw blah blah blah because let's be honest you don't really care, but again it has been demonstrated time and time again that guns are in fact an effective weapon against guns.

To my other point, of the four robberies that I've (or in one case a roommate) been victim of, only one was at gunpoint. One was just strong arm, two was my roommate got stabbed and then robbed, three was a home invasion (this was the one with guns), four was at knifepoint (unsuccessfully, because after #3 I picked up, you guessed it, a fucking gun.) #4 decided to walk away instead of stab me for some odd reason that "surely wasn't me drawing my gun," so I consider it a success.

boredsquirrel ,

Crazy. We for sure live in very different areas.

Y2K38 ,

Did you consider using condoms, instead of shooting it?

Juice88 ,
@Juice88@lemmy.world avatar

Hell yeah he’s the least. What is that, a 7 round mag? What a joke.

ArcaneSlime ,

Sig p320, looks to be the M17/M18 version with a manual safety, not the extended 21rnd mag though, probably the 17rnd mag; unless CA, NJ, CT, IL, NY, MA, WA, (fuck I know I'm missing one or two), who restrict their citizens to 10rnds arbitrarily. That's a double stack 9mm magazine, def more than 7rnds.

In theory it could be a .40sw, but afaik they don't make them in that caliber and you'd need at least to rebarrel it if not need a new slide too, and new mags and such ofc. That isn't impossible, because they do make those parts for the regular p320, but afaik they only make the 9mm version of the slide with the manual safety, more likely that it is stock.

You're right though, the more rnds the better, but also concealability is a factor. Tbh, we don't know if he has an AR with 100 surefire 60s stacked up right off camera, either, but we know that wouldn't fit in his pants lol.

pineapplelover ,

Found the American

ArcaneSlime ,

Duh captain obvious, it's basically either that or Czech and they don't know much about variances in US state laws typically.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

I remember he shit on new jersey and new york(validly) for having very expensive permits to carry so he's probably in a freedom 🦅🇺🇸 state.

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like the [320-M18] model, which comes with a [15] round flush magazine. But mechanically it can take a longer magazine and we can't see the bottom of it in the picture.

ArcaneSlime ,

Do they make those in FDE and with a manual safety? That'd be news to me.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Ah you're right. I guess this is 320-M18 model. I was looking at 320-M17s and thinking this looked to small to be that.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

I believe that the gun he has is the sig Sauer p320 m18 or m17 which both have either 17 or 21 round magazines.

Juice88 ,
@Juice88@lemmy.world avatar

You guys are seeing something I’m not. Both that barrel length and the mag look way smaller to be what you guys are claiming. I’ve got a FN 509 that’s close what you guys are describing and it’s much bigger than that (although the angle of the pic could just be messing with my eyes)

ArcaneSlime ,

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sig+m18&t=fpas&ia=web

Must be the angle, it's clearly a sig with the 15rnd mag and manual safety. They do also come with a 21 rounder, but this is the 15.

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like the [320-M18] model, which comes default with a [15] round flush magazine. Then again we can't see the bottom in the picture and nothing is stopping him from putting an extended magazine in.

ArcaneSlime ,

I think you're right it's an 18 not 17, you can see the mag clearly in the actual video and it's the flush mag.

KillingTimeItself ,

hey uh, open source guns when?

Quackdoc ,
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

we already have them. It's not hard to make a firearm, and the 3d printed weapons scene has taken off quite well. all of the good ones still need metal parts ofc, but they are pretty easy to get your hands on in many cases.

mojo_raisin ,

You can watch videos of people shooting them, many seem to work quite well.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

They are nowhere near as reliable as a properly manufactured gun but they are still pretty solid for plastic and a bit of metal

mojo_raisin ,

Oh ya for sure

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

It really depends on the design and how much of it somebody is committed to 3D printing. If somebody wants to 3D print the bare minimum for legal purposes and use a parts kit for the rest, there's a number of designs that seem identical in function to something factory made.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Are the metal parts gun specific or multipurpose?

Quackdoc ,
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

specific parts. you need metal to withstand the pressures of the actual bullet to get a somewhat degree of reliability, so any pressure bearing part needs to be metal, everything else can be plastic, but the more metal the better. Now you can get some more basic designs with parts that you could fabricate at home, but a lot of the higher end designs require off the shelf gun parts.

The "leading design" right now is the FGC-9 which is actually seeing a degree of use in myanmar(??). The design requires metal parts that could be feasible to fabricate at home. However it is shockingly easy, even in heavily restricted countries, to be able to order the metal parts.

setsneedtofeed , (edited )
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You can get parts or parts kits (random example) and make the receiver/frame (whatever the legal "gun" part happens to be on a design) yourself.

KillingTimeItself ,

ok but i still want my GNU approved gun. Give me my GNU gun goddamnit!

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It's not hard to make a firearm, but it's pretty hard to make a good one. I could maybe make something about ten times worse than that thing that one Aussie kid made during WWI in his garage.

ArcaneSlime ,

You'd be surprised.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
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Hugh_Jeggs ,

Coward is the word you're looking for, not paranoid

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Huh?

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Gun owners/cowards. Same thing. Look it up in the thesaurus

itslilith ,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

There's a very large overlap, but I can't blame any minorities wanting to arm themselves in the current political climate. Arm queer people!

Titou ,

Lmao this dosn't make any sense

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Lmao if someone comes at me with a gun I'm just gonna square up with them? It's not cowardly to want to arm yourself in case your life at risk.

Mac ,

not coward but maybe having a victim complex

SuperSynthia ,

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” —-Karl Marx

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Ha ha I see how your worker's rights ended up even with guns, you fucking coward 😂

rumschlumpel ,

Did you just assume their nationality?

SuperSynthia ,

Normally I would just let it slide, but I’m bored so why not have some discourse :)

  1. I do not own fire arms personally due to mental health issues. I do carry pepper spray and have a taser readily available. Worst case scenario a bow I use for hunting.

  2. There are legitimate uses for fire arms full stop. Protection against bodily threats, hunting, tyrannical government, etc.

  3. I support universal background checks and “common sense gun regulation”. It is a dangerous tool, but it is still just a tool. I’d love to see mandatory fire arm safety training before attempting to buy a gun.

  4. Workers rights are bogged down because of hierarchical systems designed towards uplifting the few and the expense of the many.

Why should the government have exclusive use of violence? In any case, the eventual goal (for me personally and people like me) is peace and liberty. Until that happens the working class must have access to fire arms. The people who should not own guns are those with mental health issues, and access should be limited to trained/responsible individuals.

ArcaneSlime ,

(Sorry not trying to be a dick just some info)

Drop that taser, they're worthless. The ones the cops use are only effective 60% of the time, and those are the shooty bois with the barbs that aren't legal for civilians in every state (some states OK). The ones most people have that are only effective at contact distance anyway are basically just annoying, it's impossible to get intramuscular incapacitation with them afaik, as that requires appropriate prong spread that is only a thing with the shooty bois (if you're the right distance away to get the spread, and the guy doesn't have a heavy coat which half the time will catch the barbs.) Frankly running, OC, or if the threat is deadly a hammer, would all be better than the taser unless you're fighting a lot of naked wet dudes maybe lol.

The OC spray is great however, get the highest % you legally can in your area and preferably stream over gel. They do go bad, check the dates on it, if no date replace at least every ~2y. I use Pom OC myself, but there's many others.

SuperSynthia ,

I appreciate the information! I’ll check my labels!

boredsquirrel ,

A gun is not a tool you need. It is just needed because you expect others to also have it.

Against random robberies, pepperspray, tasers or sirens are better.

If "the woman at night on the walk home" has a gun, "the robber" has one too. Nothing won.

If it is circulating, you cannot prevent the wrong people from getting them.

I see how not only the police having guns is nice. But this means they shoot way quicker. See the rate of deaths by police in germany, its always below 30.

SuperSynthia ,

I get what your saying completely. I don’t disagree per se actually (my brain tells me we just have lived in a crazy time for the past couple hundred years, guns are super prolific.). I would love if the police disarmed as well.

boredsquirrel ,

UK has it like that. They have "armed police" and normal police.

boredsquirrel ,

Citing some random dead person, wow

SuperSynthia ,

Karl Marx isn’t really random, he is the godfather of communism. Now I am not a full blown communist by any means but Karl Marx was a really smart dude who correctly saw and anticipated the negative effects of capitalism. It’s ok to disagree, I respect that completely but I’d ask we keep it civil.

devnull406 ,

I know you're just trolling or whatever, but I'd love to have some reasonable answer to what a non-cowardly response is supposed to be if there is some armed person trying to hurt me or my family. The police response time where I live is 30-45 minutes. I don't want to shoot someone, I hope I never have to, but if it's either me or them? Well that's what makes having guns practical.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

Sig

Security

Day of the negative 30 degree drop angle soon.

cley_faye ,

There is no software solution that protects from a crowbar, you have to go to the hardware side.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Intellect is undoubtably a good thing,

But a lot of things are solved with your solid body

https://youtu.be/81T4uI0k7p4

SaltyIceteaMaker ,
@SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

That quote goes hard for no reason

Quackdoc ,
@Quackdoc@lemmy.world avatar

not enough guns, needs a rifle and a shotgun at least.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Not just bikes, but with a twist

menemen ,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

"How intensive gun usage solved my commute problems!"

shaytan ,
@shaytan@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Where's the rocket launcher? Rockie thumbnail

NateNate60 ,

Well, it's Mental Outlaw. He's a contender for one of the most paranoid tech YouTubers out there.

unexposedhazard ,

But its great that people like this exist imo. The average person might not need it but if someone does actually have a real reason for this level of security then its nice to have sources or at least entrypoints into the topic.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Yeah I like his videos though

0x2d ,

he has good linux videos, he seemed kinda right wing tho

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Idk I didn't see much right wing stuff in his videos but he's a big fan of freedom 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅

eos ,
@eos@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
Titou ,

He never hided it, his video are kinda great tho

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

If you are paranoid it doesn't mean you are not spied on.

NateNate60 ,

That's true. But paranoid people often mistake how much of a shit others give about being spied upon

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

A lot of people didn't give much shit before Snowden's leak. A lot of themstarted after.

pop ,

"Tech youtuber"? this guy just regurgitates whatever is already trending and then adds in his own right wing idiocracy. He's "tech's" reaction video guy.

NateNate60 ,

A person who uploads videos discussing technology to YouTube is a tech YouTuber, notwithstanding the originality of those videos.

Hobbes_Dent ,
FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

this is why I always laugh when people use biometrics. best case scenario, they use whatever it's locked behind with you under duress. Worst case? they take whatever.

TrickDacy ,

"I laugh at people who use security that is possible -- unlikely -- but possible, to defeat"

-Internet Chode

force ,

Security that is impossible to defeat is literally logically impossible

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

The random person the receptionist let into the main office is not likely to chop my finger off to access my phone or computer. I don't use biometrics because I don't want Samsung and Microsoft having my fingerprints for their eventual reconstruction of humanity into Tleilaxu gholas in service to the shareholders.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

the random person that wandered in is also unlikely to ask you for your keys or your password

boredsquirrel ,

I dont get it. In that cenario, using Biometrics is not less secure as that wrench would convince you of telling the password.

Btw biometrics dont work on first boot on android, or after you used the wrong finger a few times on GrapheneOS. They will also implement a duress long-powerbutton-press feature in some future, to reboot the phone.

Churbleyimyam ,

At least they need to keep you conscious and able to speak if its a password tho. Small mercies.

boredsquirrel ,

Okay maybe

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

I dont get it. In that cenario, using Biometrics is not less secure as that wrench would convince you of telling the password.

A password is safer because they will need you alive and conscious. To bypass the biometrics, you just need the body part.

ArcaneSlime ,

Lol, he used this comic in the video as an example of what to do against a Wrench Attack (CVE-1800-4096), to shoot them before they beat you with the wrench.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar
Twelve20two ,
@Twelve20two@slrpnk.net avatar

That is the most cartoony/toy looking handgun I've seen in a good while

devnull406 ,

Just because of the color?

It's real enough

force ,

don't let the US military know that you don't like desert camos. they'll get real mad

Sightline ,

That's the M-18

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

arch
security

the decades long joke still keeps paying dividends. well done to trolls that kick-started the whole thing.

Thcdenton ,

Kenny is based

FlickeringScreens ,

Average Mental Outlaw video

Swarfega ,

Tell me you're American without telling me you're American

Hiro8811 ,
@Hiro8811@lemmy.world avatar

I mean it's MentalOutlaw

Juice88 ,
@Juice88@lemmy.world avatar

Oh I remember that guy, I watched like 2 videos and then removed them from my watch history hoping that YouTube wouldn’t recommend him again lol

ikka ,

based

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
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possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

If you have a YouTube watch history you are doing it wrong from a privacy and freedom perspective.

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

For real I keep that off 🤣

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Or don't use YouTube. There are plenty of third party clients

potentiallynotfelix OP ,
@potentiallynotfelix@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

They can't rival the youtube app because if I want to have the same subscriptions on yt web I'm gonna need to subscribe on both apps. Revanced is perfectly fine for me

JustARegularNerd ,

I exclusively use NewPipe on my phone, and it works well (although it seems comments broke recently, but I'm sure it'll be fixed in due course), but I try to use Piped on PC and I find that it is significantly slower, most videos I have to play at 720p or lower, and it usually takes 20+ seconds to initially load. Being in Australia probably doesn't help

Is there any other alternatives that I should consider?

melooone ,

I found FreeTube just recently and I really like it so far. It's a desktop app that uses electron and the Invidious API. It supports 1080p and is really snappy, at least for me. https://freetubeapp.io

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If you want a native client for Piped on your phone, check out LibreTube

If you want something closer to NewPipe on your PC, check out Invidious, Tubo or FreeTube if you want a native client. There's also an Invidious client for Android called Clipious.

You can also try out Tubular on your phone, it's a fork of NewPipe with some nice extra features like SponsorBlock integration

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

On my phone I use Libretube and for desktop I use Invidious.

The thing with Libretube is you have to flip though instances to get it to work.

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