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russjr08 ,
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Well, aside from this I hope it all went well OP!

Varven ,
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Use arch

HStone32 ,

The longer I use Linux, the harder it becomes to see where windows users are coming from. Its gotten to the point where seeing people use windows in public feels incomprehensible to me, like watching people go to work on a pogo stick instead of a car.

Psythik , (edited )

Three words: High Dynamic Range.

HDR is a tacked on feature in KDE that barely works. In Windows 11, it's a set and forget thing. SDR gets mapped to HDR space, so you don't have to constantly toggle it on and off when switching between content, like you have to do in other OSes. You can even upgrade SDR videos and games to true HDR, even if they don't have native support. It legit makes content look more realistic.

And if you have a newer GPU, there's also AI upscaling, which is great for watching HD and SD content on a 4K display. Pretty sure you can't do that* at all in Linux, at least not in real-time.

But if you have an SDR monitor and/or an older GPU, none of this matters to you. Which in that case, there's no reason for you to use Windows ever. But if your gear is newer, Linux is too outdated for you.

I'll check back in 5 years. Maybe 2029 will finally be the year I ditch Microsoft products for good.

absentbird ,
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It's expected for HDR to mature on Linux later this year. I'll send you an update in December.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It’s expected for HDR to mature on Linux later this year.

HDR works on Steam Deck right now. It may take a while until it trickles down to distributions other than SteamOS and not every compositor may support it equally but in general support is there.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

until it trickles down to distributions

Ancap spotted. Most distros don't use Gamescope. Although if HDR support is in KWin, then you can just go and install KDE on rolling release distro.

woelkchen , (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Most distros don’t use Gamescope.

Well, that's the problem of the person making a general statement about all of Linux and not going into specifics.

BlushedPotatoPlayers ,

These are nice, but on the other hand there's the case where you have a limited time slot somewhere and windows randomly decides that it's time to update, pop up a window to upload your data to "the cloud", reboot, and bang, you're f*cked.

the_doktor ,

HDR is just a scam. It's essentially automated brightness and contrast controls that is terribly done. I've seen HDR on brand new displays running HDR-capable everything and it just looks like someone can't figure out how to set their monitor up correctly. It's a buzzword created for crap technology that makes people want to spend more on essentially the same trash.

And as for scaling, look up FSR.

Windows is 100% obsolete and anyone who disagrees is just looking for excuses.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

It's essentially automated brightness and contrast controls that is terribly done

Brightness? True. Contrast controls? It seems you are confusing software HDR, which compresses HDR to SDR, and hardware HDR.

Hardware HDR is fancy word to say burning you eyes harder.

When you represent image as 3d vector field of brightnesses, it IS brightness control terribly done, but our eyes don't care.

the_doktor ,

The point is it's just poorly done automated adjustment of what should be done manually on your monitor, and it's a laughable overpriced scam meant to take money out of the pockets of people who fall for tech buzzwords.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Three words: High Dynamic Range.

Works fine on Steam Deck. (The comment you're replied to is about Linux, not a specific DE, so your experience with a specific DE doesn't really count as counter argument about Linux in general.)

And if you have a newer GPU, there’s also AI upscaling, which is great for watching HD and SD content on a 4K display. Pretty sure you can’t do they at all in Linux, at least not in real-time.

That is wrong.

uis ,
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You can even upgrade SDR videos and games to true HDR, even if they don't have native support. It legit makes content look more realistic.

You are just applying filters. They look good, but they are incorrect.

onlinepersona ,

I am utterly perplexed by the HDR talk, honestly. Why does it even matter? I've been consuming media on Linux for more than a decade and it looks perfect to me.

When people talk about making it look even better, I literally can't imagine what they're talking about. I mean, when people had black n white TV, they could imagine color. When I had a CRT and 3D games, it was easy to imagine better quality, but going from 1080p to 4k already does nothing. HDR just seems like marketing bullshit that people wouldn't be able to discern, unless flicking between normal and HDR or having them side by side.

Anti Commercial-AI license

archchan ,
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I've gone off the FOSS deep end so it doesn't stop when I see Windows used in the wild.

The longer I'm here, the more I recoil at the sight of people using products from Google so casually and thoughtlessly.

I'll feel visceral disgust when I see the soulless, dystopian corporate logos of Xitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, etc that wormed their way into a universal presence on social footers of websites or promotional emails or search engines... and everyone's locked down devices, sucking up troves of data to map who you are, were, and will be. Even McFuckingDonalds has a clause in a policy saying they'll measure your intelligence.

The greater the intersect between emotions felt while enjoying a cautionary fictional cyberpunk tale and those felt while experiencing reality... well, anyway you get the idea.

Tldr I need a hug from a penguin or cocaine from a bear or something holy shit

You, reader, go. Hug a penguin. Spread love to the world. Believe in the change you want to see. Be good to each other. And don't let anyone or anything take who you are, were, or can be away from you, be it a corp, a government, or a bad day.

Have a good day

FatCat ,
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These comments are copy pasta perfection. Best part they are unironic 🤣😍

archchan ,
@archchan@lemmy.ml avatar

Hahaha thanks. I like being extra and colorful like this. It's a good release in more ways than one

bitwaba ,

I feel the same way, but I feel it with lots of other topics in my life as well.

I daily drive Linux for both home and work. Windows is absolutely shit, yes, but when you're using Linux as your primary system, the only interaction you have with Windows is through other people. And that interaction is only when people's experience with Windows is noteworthy enough for them to mention anything about it. Its selection bias.

A similar thing happened with me when I visited home after having been gone for 2 years. I moved from the US to the UK over a decade ago. I'd go back every 6-12 months, but because of COVID it was over 2 years. It was during the vaccine rollouts too, and I was expecting this warzone anti mask/antivax everywhere. I saw a few people (like, over 3 weeks I saw less than a dozen) with signs protesting at intersections. And I saw one guy have an argument with his wife in the parking lot which she just eventually told him to stay in the the car if he wasn't going to wear a mask while she went to the grocery store. Thats pretty much the opposite of what I expected based on the images I got for the previous 2 years through overseas media. You only get the lowlights.

BCat70 ,

Hell it looks ro me like they are driving a Flintstonemobile, where every time they stop using thier feet a boxing glove punches them in the face.

uis ,
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like watching people go to work on a pogo stick instead of a car.

At least going to work on a pogo stick makes more sense in urban area. You can't bring car into subway. Windows on the other hand...

EvilEyedPanda ,

Today's thesis is an improv on why windows sucks.

Ibuthyr ,

I don't get it. I never had my PC randomly updating itself without my consent. I simply keep my OS updated like everyone should. I do this by installing the update once I get notified (I simply update when I shut the thing down). Why is everyone so weird about this? Or is this a home edition problem? Don't use home edition.

calcopiritus ,

I use home edition and never had this problem. EU windows is much better though, maybe this is a USA windows thing.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Right. It's easy to forget that M$ has two versions of шindows

TachyonTele ,

Nah, you can delay an update for a long time. Idk what OP is doing to cause this.

chiliedogg ,

I've had way too many Windows updates fuck my shit up, so I wait as long as possible to update so they have a chance to fix what they broke by the time it gets rolled out to my machine.

Ibuthyr ,

I've never really had any major fuck ups with windows updates. This is something I also don't get. I'm not an MS advocate or anything, I completely support people who use Linux because screw evil giant corporations. But most arguments here are completely emotionally driven.

K4mpfie ,

Tbf I do this too but sometimes Windows will shut down after an update and next time I start it it will "configure my PC", restart once more and then show me the login screen. Doesn't even take 5 tho.
The worst thing however is when I start my laptop and login, just for Windows to decide it's updating rn. However this is usually happening at work so I suspect that the update server on the domain pushes an urgent security update that can only happen once a user logged in. Still super annoying but doesn't take more than 5 minutes.

Ibuthyr ,

Ok, this I can relate to. I often sat down at my desk the next morning just to see that the PC is running. Electricity is kinda expensive where I'm from, so this pisses me off.

woelkchen ,
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No, not any longer. In Windows 11 "update and shutdown" includes a reboot in-between and then shuts off. The only way you get this these days is to "update and reboot" and manually shutting off the computer during BIOS initialization.

K4mpfie ,

Yeah I'm still on Windows 10

PineRune ,

Every day, my work computers force a shutdown-update, take 20 minites, fail the update, recover from the failed update, and then force a 24-hour timer to do it again that I can't turn off. IT doesn't care.

lickmygiggle ,

If it’s happening every 24 hours it sounds like they’re the ones that set the policy.

josephsh5 ,

"FUCK MICROSOFT!"

Moshpirit ,
@Moshpirit@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, so you know OP's thesis name too!

josephsh5 ,

No, I was referencing a scene from the show "Space Force" where the exact same thing occurs.

Timecircleline ,

How did it go?!

InternetCitizen2 OP ,

I didn't defend, but it went well

Timecircleline ,

Well congratulations to the newly minted Dr!

moon ,

the thesis was on why you should move to Linux

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