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ooterness ,

I saw that happen once in a big presentation.

There was a team of students presenting their work to ~200 people. Right in the middle, a pop-up says updates are finished and the computer needs to restart. It has a helpful 60-second countdown, but "cancel" is grayed out, so all they can do is watch.

I was only in the audience and I still have nightmares.

zcd ,

Those kids are still wincing to this day

DmMacniel ,

shutdown -a couldn't help in that situation?

DoctorWhookah ,

They didn’t know, but yea.

bjorney ,

For every 1 person who knows how to use the windows command line, there are 50 people struggling because they didn't embed their video into their PowerPoint, or worse, their USB stick only contains a shortcut to their actual .ppt file

Hubi ,
@Hubi@lemmy.world avatar

their USB stick only contains a shortcut to their actual .ppt file

This happened all the time when I was in middle school. Way to activate a suppressed memory.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I mean, not to beat a dead horse but those are precisely the type of people who would push off an update forever if given the choice.

Not that a midday, mid work reboot is acceptable.

Nisaea ,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That's a very generous estimate. I didn't know about it and I work in IT.

Cethin ,

I love these comments. If you need to use the command line (the largest argument people have against Linux) why are people still arguing to stay on Windows? Hell, Linux you don't even need the terminal if you don't want to use it and choose the right distro.

(I recognize that for schools and offices, people don't have a choice. These students were probably on a personal laptop though, so they could have a choice. The issue is Windows comes as default and no one actually makes a choice. They don't choose Windows. They just have Windows.)

freeman ,

Windows always gets a pass from it's fans. They also tend to overestimate average users' proficiency with computers (meaning windows) way more than linux users.

Most windows users would be afraid to change stuff on CP or Settings never mind opening up policy editor or registry editor.

They regularly fail to install applications on windows (a big part of them would probably not even try) or install something different than intended.

Usually they end up running million unnecessary things on startup, having completely unresponsive systems. They just shrug and cope with it till they pay someone to format their computer or they buy a new one.

Ibuthyr ,

The arrogance of some Linux users... You just can't fathom that most people just want to use the OS their PC came with. These people don't want to struggle with the incompatibilities that come with Linux systems. Troubleshooting Linux systems is a daunting task for most casual users. It's great that you use Linux because fuck greedy corporations. But stop being so uppity about it. This toxic behavior is what steers people away from Linux forums.

freeman ,

You just can’t fathom that most people just want to use the OS their PC came with.

No they don't they want to get a task done. The vast majority of users doesn't know what an OS or a browser is never mind that there are alternatives.

These people don’t want to struggle with the incompatibilities that come with Linux systems.

Most people are simply not aware of Linux systems let alone linux system incompatibilities.

Troubleshooting Linux systems is a daunting task for most casual users.

No shit, troubleshooting windows is a daunting task for most casual users. They either nag/pay someone to try and fix it or simply cope with it. And windows fucks up all the time, especially for most users.

It’s great that you use Linux because fuck greedy corporations. But stop being so uppity about it. This toxic behavior is what steers people away from Linux forums.

People don't just randomly get on Linux forums, especially linux memes forums.
Nor is my previous comment in any way or form toxic. I just pointed out the blind spot of windows fans, you just can't handle criticism.

pineapplelover ,

Damn I forgot about that

fluxion ,

Then it proceeds to take 10 minutes to boot. Happened to me before an important meeting once and i just couldn't believe it. wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

Tyoda ,

Probably that they very obviously are!

Serinus ,

Just blame the users. Easy.

funkless_eck ,

our work uses macs but also Kandji for software management, which also locks you into restarts during business hours 😎

phdepressed ,

Usually for large businesses like universities IT can choose when to push updates.

FiniteBanjo ,

Some versions like Home and Education might lack the options, but most Enterprise versions and LTSC versions can let you delay updates via the menu or disable updates completely via group policy fuckery.

Still bullshit that they have to, though.

Pacmanlives ,

Shutdown -a or whatever the flag is should abort it if I remember correctly

pkmkdz ,

Yeah -a for "abort"
Still, an user shouldn't have to know that

raspberriesareyummy ,

wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

I'd wager a guess it's people dumb enough to constantly put up with shit like this?

Duamerthrax ,

Combined with myopic developers who always have the newest hardware and fastest connection.

raspberriesareyummy ,

yeah, that's another epic IT fail of humanity

barsquid ,

They think they can get away with it because they keep getting away with it.

SeekPie ,
Cornelius_Wangenheim , (edited )

Because the alternative is people getting compromised and getting their computer crypto locked, accounts stolen or their bank account drained.

freeman ,

Other OSes can update everything while running and you just reboot to the updated system. Microsoft could definitely fix their update process they are not incompetent, they just don't care.

TonyOstrich ,

The super duper shitty thing is that they could have canceled it by opening the Run dialog box and typing "shutdown -a", so it's not even like canceling wasn't an option. M$ just decided to be dicks about it

modifier ,

M$ just decided to be dicks about it

A most concise yet comprehensive company bio.

ooterness ,

Maybe? If I recall correctly, this was Windows XP. Also the computer was owned by the school, so the students didn't have admin access.

DV8 ,

That screen didn't exist in Win XP. If it had, it would have been a different shade of blue. This is either Win10 though I suspect it's Win11.

ooterness ,

The event I'm referring to wasn't OP's photo. Mine was back in 2004 or 2005, long before Win10 was released.

polle ,

Is this a w11 thing? Or does o&o shutup in default settings disable stuff like that. I actually never have seen a forced reboot like that myself.

It sounds really shitty and i dislike windows alot.

Ibuthyr ,

It only happens if you neglect to install updates for a very long time, which is a pretty dumb thing to do. This is actually a non-issue if you just install the damn updates once they're announced. Just update when shutting down. Also, using home edition is pretty dumb. With the pro version you'll likely never run into this problem.

Bytemeister ,

Have you tried turning it off and on aga.... Oh nevermind. Carry on.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

What’s the thesis on?

And good luck!

InternetCitizen2 OP ,

Its on transients in astronomy. I'm not defending tho.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

anything exciting?

Black holes eating stars? Aliens? something blow up?
hehe.

I'd say 'be gentle', but uh, brutality is kind of part of the formality, right?

Rolando ,

When you defend, print out your slides; at least enough for your committee and you. Then if all else fails, you can present off the paper copies. (also, it gives the committee members somewhere to write notes and to easily look back to previous slides.)

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Why you should use Wimdows

rem26_art ,
@rem26_art@fedia.io avatar

Good Luck

mipadaitu ,

Should make that screen the first slide of the PowerPoint

Eheran ,

One in the middle, including the pop-up notification about a pending restart before that. Hahaha nice

taiyang ,

I know what to do next time I'm teaching on 4/1...

MNByChoice ,

Also do it on 4/20.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I'm going to do this now

mikyopii ,
@mikyopii@programming.dev avatar

Good luck! You got this!

nieceandtows ,

You should start your defense saying the same thing.

Plopp ,

And then just sit silently and spin around and around on the chair for 15 minutes.

InternetCitizen2 OP ,

Unorthodox, but the boldness we need for this brave new world.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

Its the final boss.

You need to fight the windows update!

itsnotits ,

It's* the final boss.

Whorehoarder ,

The worst is when it's actually its, the one time it's their time to shine and the whole thing just flies over their heads. Smh my head

snekmuffin ,
@snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

dont bother correcting apostrophes as its not a grammatical mistake, simply lazy typing. well never stop doing that no matter how much yall tell us not to, cuz it simply aint all that much of a problem

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

And you are the grammar end boss

TheHobbyist ,

Good luck on your defense! Goodspeed

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