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alliswell33 ,

On my duel booted system I still have windows. But I haven't had to use it in a couple weeks and at this point might just delete it and go fully into Linux only. Just a few windows only apps that are making me unsure. Might try windows vm.

KuroeNekoDemon OP ,

Honestly if I played any games that had anti cheat I would run a windows vm in QEMU/KVM. Go the GrapheneOS route and sandbox the spyware (cough Google and Microsoft cough)

mmababes ,

Isn't GrapheneOS a mobile OS? How would it work on a pc?

ExploratrixLunae ,
@ExploratrixLunae@kbin.social avatar

I think they mean that sandboxing Windows in a VM is akin to how GrapheneOS can sandbox Google apps, not that they would use Graphene on a PC.

Happy to be corrected though!

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Some anti cheats can detect that they're running in a virtual machine and if they do, you'll probably get banned for some reason.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I have a Windows install that I haven't booted up in 2 years. I didn't really use it anyway. I just had one thing to finish there, but I am lazy.

I only used it for a few weeks after getting that laptop while waiting for Linux kernel 5.8 which would finally support that hardware as nothing older booted up.

acockworkorange ,

I like the idea that Linux and Windows have a duel every time your system boots and the winner gets to start up.

jeena , (edited )
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

I've been doing that since 2013. I run Arch btw.

tubaruco ,

me too, but only since late 2022

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Here is my operating systems timeline:

https://jemmy.jeena.net/pictrs/image/fcb40dac-d020-45a9-b199-e29237117d0e.png

CMDR_Horn ,
@CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml avatar

2024 ain’t over, you might switch to TempleOS…

Zetta ,

You make an excel to track your operating system of choice for the year but don't include the distro?!? For shame.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

https://jemmy.jeena.net/pictrs/image/10ac7844-521a-4c8b-b30c-6f53ebb291cc.png

Ok, Ok, Ok, I added it now.

db0 ,

what's between 1994 and 2001? MS DOS?

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

No, I just didn't have a computer. I bought a MTX 80C and later a Ford Fiesta mk3, I also bought some Technics SL-1200 so I sould pretend to be a DJ:

https://paradies.jeena.net/img/weblog/2004/jenaparadies.jpg

In the end I just didn't have the need nor time for a computer.

Johanno , (edited )

Ok of I really think hard I might get some pcs and os's that I used since I can remember. But who has such a detailed list of os's they use?

Are Raspberrypis included, do work pcs count?

nao ,

You can include them if you want to

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

In my case work and private OSses align quite well in the timeline, Raspberry Pi's I didn't put in here.

Zetta ,

I rate A+ now, very good.

rbos ,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

A hwhat

acockworkorange ,

An extra large, it seems. I don't get it either.

nossaquesapao ,

Did you stop using a computer between 1994 and 2001? I feel like there's some interesting story in there.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Yes I did stop using computers during that time. While I had my Amiga in school only nerds had PCs, so I didn't get one, even though I was programming on my Amiga with AMIGABasic and so on. I guess it was mostly because I started doing normal teenager stuff once I was 16 like motorbikes, cars, playing music, going to the clubs, etc. so there was no time and no desire to use a computer. Only once everyone seemed to have internet at home I started feeling left out a bit. for some months I started usincgcomputers in Internet Cafes and then decided to get a used PC.

Mio ,

I actually feel bad for you using Linux before most stuff had measured. Font anti aliasing, font name, screen tearing, drivers, flatpaks etc.

VampyreOfNazareth ,

I use Manjaro BTW

six_arm_spider_man ,
@six_arm_spider_man@reddthat.com avatar

Me a few months back when I accidentally formatted the Windows drive I was keeping for dual booting just in case.

"Guess I'm a full timer now"

SeekPie ,

Me accidentally installing Fedora on BOTH my hard drives...

AlijahTheMediocre ,

I heard you liked Linux so much, I installed Linux on ALL your harddrives

SeekPie ,

Imagine a 1tb drive partitioned into 16gb parts and a different distro on each. I have ALL the Linuxes.

AlijahTheMediocre ,

Where can I learn such power?

SomeBoyo ,

Distrobox

ghashul ,

By the time i got my current pc I hadn't booted into windows for several months in the old one, so it never got installed on this one.

burgersc12 ,
@burgersc12@sh.itjust.works avatar

There's like literally 3 games that are preventing me from dropping windows entirely.

haui_lemmy ,
@haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com avatar

Which ones?

burgersc12 ,
@burgersc12@sh.itjust.works avatar

I cannot, for the life of me, get Hogwarts, Forza 5 and Immortals of Aveum to run with wine.

hellfire103 ,
@hellfire103@lemmy.ca avatar

Have you tried using Proton through Steam? It's possible to load in external games and programs.

SeekPie , (edited )

Even pirated games work if you run the installer through Steam.

burgersc12 , (edited )
@burgersc12@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good to know, but none of this worked for me

GiuEliNo ,
@GiuEliNo@feddit.it avatar

Uhm aveum, and hogwarts works with proton for sure, because I played them with my Linux desktop.
Aveum had some issues, but should work OOB now.

Forza I don't know :/
Weird

kevincox ,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

Stange, on Steam Immortals of Aveum is marked as "Unplayable" on the Steam Deck.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2009100/Immortals_of_Aveum/

The most common reason for this is some DRM that doesn't work on Wine/Proton. So looking at the store page I would guess that this is the culprit:

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: Incorporated 3rd-Party DRM: Denuvo Anti-tamper

But I guess you get what you deserve. Don't buy EA games and your life will improve.

GiuEliNo ,
@GiuEliNo@feddit.it avatar

As you can see here is gold on protondb, it is unsupported on deck only because it's a really heavy game, and the deck does not have enough horse power to play well, but on my beefy desktop it works.

But yeah, the denuvo anti-tamper for sure does not help the performance.

kevincox ,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah interesting and good to know. Usually I see games that perform poorly marked as playable but with caveats. I guess it just performs so bad that it is effectively unplayable.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Holy shit never thought I would run into a user in the wild who actively seeked out Immortals of Aveum

burgersc12 ,
@burgersc12@sh.itjust.works avatar

Haven't even played it yet, but it looks pretty lol

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Yeah that's basically I've heard is the only thing going for it i heard. Glorified unreal engine 5 tech demo.

Caboose12000 ,

I had the same issue with forza for a long time. as far as I can tell, the only fix is to get an AMD GPU. I uprgaded my 1070 to 7900xtx and now forza runs like a dream. never tried those other two games though

burgersc12 , (edited )
@burgersc12@sh.itjust.works avatar

Immortals of aveum is working and, got the other two as well! Windows is gone!!

init ,
@init@lemmy.ml avatar

Hogwarts via steam's proton runs flawlessly.

hellfire103 ,
@hellfire103@lemmy.ca avatar

Once I'd tasted Linux Mint in 2019, I just gave up on Windows altogether. Linux and BSD all the way!

SaltyIceteaMaker ,
@SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Took a sip of Ubuntu and now im addicted to arch. Dont do linux kids🙏🙏

Crack0n7uesday ,

I'm Sr IT so I have to stay familiar with Windoze or I confuse the help desk when I ask about trouble shooting they've already done before kicking shit up to me.

mods_are_assholes ,

Keep this up and we'll start treating lunuxers like vegans.

How do you know someone runs Arch Lunux?

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

db0 ,

Finally switched (again) full time to Linux early last year. With the current state of Steam proton I have finally 0 reasons to go back. If a game doesn't work natively on Linux, I refund and move on. There's so many games out there, I have no reason to go out of my way for any one.

Zuberi ,

I personally run a Windows VM inside of my Linux-only machine

If a program gives me issues w/ Proton, I have actually found that installing inside windows and moving over into a wine directory works surprisingly well for some products (cough, adobe)

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Huh, interesting, never thought to do that. Been missing Photoshop. (GIMP just isn't the same)

Codename_goose ,
@Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m sorta, kinda, mostly illiterate, when it comes to what you are doing with adobe. Are you just installing like normal and then copy/paste the Adobe folder from the programs folder into a wine directory?

Alborlin , (edited )

Still not there and seems very hard yet, today I was just trying to compare two folders from external HDD using something

  1. Can't find a decent folder comparator on Linux
  2. I found a kinda of one but I can't find external HDD on it cause some mount bs in Linux

Such a simple task in windows, Linux is hardly better for regular use.

Edit: so 4 replies one of them is about using commands prompt ( hardly useful for new users) , one says its windows fault, one of them.might be answer and one of them is related to driver issue for drive.
And at time of edit i am -4 on votes. So much for linux Community and help.

Why a simple person won't consider windows ? Now I await more minuses I think.

Paulemeister ,

What's a folder comparator? Showing the difference between two directories can be done with diff -qr dir1 dir2 or with a gui with mold (one Google search away my dude). If installed via flatpak you may need to give it permission to your files (flatseal is nice for that)

kttnpunk ,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

You need drivers for your external USB most likely. Unfortunately, a lot of brands only support microsoft's malware of a OS and use unnecessary proprietary firmware...

savvywolf ,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I've found meld to be a good graphical tool to do this sort of thing. Should be in the repos.

Would be nice if it could be launched by file managers though.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

If you're on GNOME the drive will show up in the "Other Locations" option in files or it might show up on the side. If its not probably a driver issue, though I've never had such an issue when using sane distro choices like Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian

aCodeCrafter ,

Personally I do see how windows can be useful, but for 99% of the things I need to do on a PC I can just do on Linux. For (most) anything else, I can just use windows running on a VM in linux.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Do you know an alternative to Sony Vegas for Linux?

veng ,

Davinci resolve? Its Linux support is a bit obtuse, but it works.

SplashJackson ,

Once I can install a program without using the terminal, Linux'll have a chance in the primetimes

DoucheBagMcSwag , (edited )

Agreed. Terminal commands for installing simple programs is a huge turn off for Windows users used to opening an exe and it's idiot proof. Getting the casual base will be the crucial point

Edit: oof. Guess this is why it doesn't have a mainstream audience

ysjet ,

You... can? That's been a thing for ages. Windows has literally been taking queues from Linux on how to makes installing packages and apps easier.

baseless_discourse ,

Windows has literally been taking queues from Linux on how to makes installing packages and apps easier.

Not to argue with you, but I think it would be fun if you can provide the source for this. I am very interested in how Windows is improving (not that I will jump back)

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

They recently introduced a package manager called winget. I'm not sure how many people actually use it however, and it is very much a power user tool

baseless_discourse ,

Okay, yeah, but it is still mostly a terminal tool. To a user, this is just chocolatey with less packages, lol.

ysjet ,

There's GUI front-ends for things like apt that are pre-installed on many Linux distros, e.g. Ubuntu. And windows has been moving towards trying to have the same thing. And yes, also they've got an apt of their own.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

If only a tool like this came default with most mainstream distros

https://aussie.zone/pictrs/image/ddd4ac36-1d24-4495-bde7-fbcf863fe6a7.png

baseless_discourse , (edited )

I want to add, most of the program you can think of is in the store (most of the time, by default!), including many properties tools used in industry.

Slack, Microsoft Teams, Zoom, spotify, discord, signal, thunderbird, chrome, firefox, brave, steam, OBS and many more are all installable with one click!

This store is the only store that is actually usable across all three major OSs.

Just saying that, because people coming from other OSs have a hard time believing a usable app store on desktop can exist.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

As an aside, damn these window screenshots from GNOME look awesome with the shadows

SplashJackson ,

I use Lubuntu for my home theatre PC, typically with a wireless mouse. But the amount of times I had to pull out the keyboard and open a terminal and add repositories and then apt get update all and then reboot and then try to install my program and then turns out I added the repositories for the wrong version of Ubuntu and now I gotta add the right one and also I can't double click someting cause it will open it up as a text file instead of an executable.

Look, I like Linux. This isn't a bad faith propaganda. I honestly think Linux could replace Windows if the developers tried, just tried, to make it user friendly. I work with multple programming languages daily, I'm not computer illiterate, but I appreciate ease of access. When I was a kid, you could install and run things easier on DOS than on Linux today. Why is it so hard to make an installer? Every answer I get on this subject is either whataboutisms or gatekeeping.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

Watch it friend. That middle ground double speak will get you ratioed here

Adanisi ,
@Adanisi@lemmy.zip avatar

You can add repositories through GUI.

The reason installers are uncommon is a similar reason installers are uncommon on phones. Security and convenience. When your system is based around a unified "app store" system installers are generally not preferred because they bypass that and then the package manager can't do anything about the program, and simply that the package manager provides a better experience overall.

Of course on Debian or Debian based distributions you can also download and install .deb files similarly to downloading a .exe installer on Windows, but that's not preferred.

And developers of multiple DEs like Plasma, Gnome, etc, absolutely make it easy to use. I use Plasma, and it is incredibly intuitive.

Holzkohlen ,

Yeah, the repo shenanigans are something I definitely do not miss from my Ubuntu days. The simplest solution would probably be to look for flatpaks or snap packages instead.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

It is possible for rpms and Deb packages to contain repos in them, see the vscode packages, it's just a matter of how developers choose to distribute their software. This is getting alot better with things like Flatpak, Snap and to a lesser extent AppImages

CosmicCleric , (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

and add repositories and then apt get update all and then reboot and then try to install my program and then turns out I added the repositories for the wrong version of Ubuntu and now I gotta add the right one

and also I can’t double click someting cause it will open it up as a text file instead of an executable.

I work with multple programming languages daily, I’m not computer illiterate

As a computer programmer, I'm assuming you're aware of the right click option to mark a file as an executable?

Also, Ubuntu has a GUI for repositories management.

Every answer I get on this subject is either whataboutisms or gatekeeping.

If you were a computer novice then I could maybe understand your criticisms more.

SplashJackson ,

Sweet, then you agree that computer novices have real grievances regarding Linux's usability?

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Sweet, then you agree that computer novices have real grievances regarding Linux’s usability?

A novice would have a learning curve for anything new that they just started to use.

baseless_discourse , (edited )

One of the reason I use linux is because there is no reasonable way to manage/update program on Windows using GUI.

The only reasonable program management tool on Windows is chocolatey, which is in the terminal. I need to remember typing choco upgrade all in command prompt from time to time, and stop all my work to wait for it updates (since it will close your program during updates). And then I will restart to wait for 20 mins for Windows to update itself.

Honestly, I don't mind a break, but remembering thing is not my strong suit; also there are certainly circumstances where stop working for 20 mins is not ideal and Windows just insist on updating itself.

On linux, I install all my program straight from the store (very pretty GUI, even without ads!), and they all automatically update in the background without bothering me at all. Even my OS updates in the background. Every time I reboot, I just boot into a brand new OS, without waiting for any update. (Could use a notification after update is installed, but I think it is broken in gnome...)

I never use the terminal in Linux besides installing and using development tools.

InternetCitizen2 ,

People say this is u friendly but don't bat an eye at needed a group policy or registry edit to keep edge from stealing your tabs and making itself the default.

at_an_angle ,

Everything was running fine on Ubuntu for months until an update. Now it just crashes, trying to load.

Turns out Linux doesn't play well with NVIDIA.

illectrility ,
@illectrility@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, trust me, we know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

I'm just glad that AMD got their shit together at about the same time Nvidia went downhill. It used to be that you needed to get an Nvidia card to get decent Linux support since, even though its drivers were closed-source, at least they worked at a time when AMD's Linux drivers were absolute garbage. Imagine if things had stayed that way on the AMD side while Nvidia went on its current trajectory; Linux users would be completely out of luck.

bluewing ,

I've been using Linux every chance I could since Red Hat 5/Mandrake 6 - available at your local Walmart for $20US for a boxed set CD. So I now have a Cheap, Cheerful, Chinese mini desktop box just to install Linux on since all my old laptops have slowly given up the ghost one by one. I've always been a distro hopper and I missed the exploration. I've been running LM with Cinnamon for the last year and really like the stability, but it's been a few years since I looked in on Fedora. And I'm getting the itch to switch again.

I have one laptop left that is running Win11 that I needed for some specialty software and now since I'm retired, there is little to no reason to keep it that way anymore. I suppose I will need to choose a single distro for that one. Maybe Ubuntu or SuSe Tumbleweed?

It's amazing just how easy choosing a distro and getting it up and running has become. From RTFM and spending a month trying to compile a driver get a Sound Blaster Gold sound card to work on a 486, (I still have PTSD from that dependency hell), to just 20 minutes from start to finish on a new install and everything works.

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