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mynamesnotrick ,
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Me playing wow on lutris and it crashing the one time a week as we start a raid boss.

Kanda ,

Never had an issue playing classic for a year

olutukko ,

I had for a while. Turns out it was just my overclocking thst was stable on windows but became unstable on linux when gaming

rbits ,

Everyone in the comments: "Actually I don't have the same problems so this is wrong"

jherazob ,
@jherazob@kbin.social avatar

That's because Steam/Proton has mostly solved this (with some qualified notorious exceptions), which used to be a real problem even just a few years ago, but not remotely as much these days; the meme is mostly outdated by now, I've lived both cases and it used to be a pain but these days? people are spoiled by Valve and many have never lived the OP situation (which is great news!)

asexualchangeling ,

"I don't have the same problems anymore so this is outdated"

Ftfy

rbits ,

Still applies though. "Oh but it used to be worse"

asexualchangeling ,

Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but personally speaking I've had no issues playing the multiplayer games I play, which (in my particular situation) puts me above at least one of the windows users in my group

Installing things not through steam can take longer sometimes, but I always made sure to do that ahead of time anyway

rbits ,

Yeah, I mean, the best thing to do is to get it working ahead of time.

asexualchangeling ,

The same is true no matter the OS, It's always good to be prepared ahead of time

Holzkohlen ,

It's always best to try it well ahead of time even if it's just for having that shader cache setup and ready to go.

Also trying to get trainers to run is a bit of a nightmare. I use steamtinkerlauncher for that and it's hit or miss I'd say.

Rootiest ,
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"ah shucks, Windows Update just initiated a reboot without asking, guess I'm out for the night guys"

nolight ,

I hate Windows, but this has never happened neither to me nor my friends. (Granted I only have like 3 friends who use it regularly)

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

It happened to me often!

Part of that I'm sure it's the fact that I work nights, but Windows refuses to acknowledge that during my work hours is not an appropriate time to install updates.

Simply stepping away to get a coffee or use the restroom is enough for Windows to decide now is the time to reboot and install updates for an hour or so and you better hope you saved everything before stepping away.

As a matter of fact, one of those instances is the one where the update broke my bitlocker encryption and I lost everything that wasn't backed up. That was my last day using Windows.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

Was it your personal computer or a company managed computer? Either way, when to automatically start updates is just a setting that's easily set. As is the "pause updates for X weeks" so that you have more weeks to do an intentional reboot. There might be some major security patches they've forced through anyways? But I don't think I've had any windows update issues since like 2017 or 2018.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

It was not managed, honestly I should've disabled bitlocker, I just never expected it to be a problem.

As to settings for when it installs updates, they didn't seem to stick or were not always respected in my experience. I spent a bit of effort trying to make sure it wasn't configured to do that but it would still just go for it anyway if the system ever became idle after midnight or so.

Anyway this story has a happy ending because after that I decided to give daily driving linux another shot, and none of the issues I had experienced previously still exist here.

In fact, incredibly enough I have found on average that the games I play perform better on Linux now than they did on Windows.

And my OS never installs updates without my permission, let alone forcing an unscheduled reboot.

RisingSwell ,

I had Windows 10 do it once over however many years i was using it (was a fairly early adopter), and Windows 11 has never done it.

Anyone who can easily use Linux can just make Windows not do that kind of shit, and not auto-update, and block the connection from basically all Windows processes.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

They'd prefer to learn nothing, blame the OS for not looking and operating exactly like Linux, and then claim it sucks not for the reasons it sucks but because they can't be bothered to try.

asexualchangeling ,

I switch to linux becouse I was having regular forced updates (that would then bluescreen, only to revert and try again a day later)

wreckage ,

I think that only happens when you don't use windows for many months, which might be true for Linux users

Juigi ,

This hasnt happened to me since vista days lol

Roflmasterbigpimp , (edited )
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

This is the thing which keeps me from switching entirely to Linux. A friend of mine needs twice the amount of Time to start his Games (which is something I would have no Problem with) and what makes it not worth switching imo is that he loses the sound from Discord when he plays. He needs to restart DC then. And no one knows why ._.

Diplomjodler ,

Is he using PipeWire or PulseAudio? I solved my audio problems by installing PipeWire.

Roflmasterbigpimp ,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

I don't know I will sent him this :D

Roflmasterbigpimp ,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, he did both but nothing helped. But thanks :)

tslnox ,

My bet would be wine grabbing the audio device and not using Pipe wire/PulseAudio. It happened to me once, I believe I solved it by recompiling something (PipeWire, wine or the gst plugins). I would recommend trying to run Discord and the game in terminal, it might show some error to help with troubleshooting.

Roflmasterbigpimp ,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

I will happily forward this to him :D maybe it helps.

ftbd ,

There's no shame in dual booting. Moving all your non-gaming stuff away from windows is a big step in the right direction.

olutukko ,

I'm going to say that there is a huge shame to use dual boot so I can feel superior for using only linux for over 2 years now. Jk

brejela ,

The only things I can't play on linux are games with heavy kernel-injected anti-cheats and racing games (AC and BNG). Everything else "just works". Hell, I even managed to get Overcooked's cross-platform version to work.

asexualchangeling ,

Obligatory
areweanticheatyet.com/

ryannathans ,

And protondb.com

tslnox ,

If by AC you mean Assetto Corsa, it works, you just have to follow a guide (it's easy, you have to remove the Proton data for the game from Steam, then install the older Proton version, run the game with this older version until it crashes, then switch to new version of Proton and run it again. It will install required dependencies and will run fine, even my old G25 steering wheel worked without problems)

SamLeeway ,
@SamLeeway@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hits me right in the kokoro, this is so relatable

EndHD ,

can i get the meme template?

ArcaneGadget ,

Just download the image, put it into Paint, select the right half with the selection tool and press delete. Hey presto!

olutukko ,

You mean gimp right? Pretty risky move to mention paint in linux memes

ArcaneGadget ,

Huh. Good point. Paint is so ambiguous to me that I didn't even think about that. Kinda plays into the meme as well, funnily enough.

Kedly ,

Is this true anymore with Steams Version of Linux? For the most part shit runs fine on my steam deck

azvasKvklenko ,

Shit’s exactly the same, especially with Gamescope

And009 ,

Maybe if I install Mexican or Indian food the night before.. Shit'll change

wreckage ,

That used to be true a few years ago, but now games just works without any tinkering from my experience. Except some online games due to kernel level anti cheats (like Fortnite and Valorant), but I prefer single player games anyway

Kedly ,

Yeah I've never been big on competitive multiplayer, my Halo days were mostly campaign and due to thats what my friends were playing. So linux being blocked by competitive games is a non issue for me as well

h3rm17 ,

And some day 1 games lile starfield.

wreckage ,

Makes sense. I only pay for games when they get discounted, so I didn't know

scrub ,

Same thing for me on Windows. Technology is just angering.

Dave ,
@Dave@lemmy.nz avatar

Now you mention it, I have spend so many hours on Windows trying to get the damn game to work. Trying to hide run Windows games on Linux, if it doesn't work immedietly and I can't find easy tweaks to fix it then I just assume it doesn't work on Linux. But when a Windows game doesn't work on Windows, I will spent hours making it work because I know it should!

BlanK0 ,

Windows virtual machine as a backup if needed 👍

alice_mac ,

How is your performance on windows VM? Also specs for reference would be amazing!

BlanK0 ,

I havent gamed on it yet but it is pretty responsive. My specs are nvidia geforce rtx3060 and amd ryzen 7. Also i am using KVM as the hypervisor since it is type 1 which means better performance and safety overall.

alice_mac ,

That's a sweet setup, I'd like to know about the gaming performance when you finally get a chance!

Hopefully you get near bare metal performance, do you do something like limit over processes or provision extra resources when you load the VM?

BlanK0 ,

In regards to the VM, you can alucate as much ram and cpu power to it to make it performe better if needed (when setting up and you can also adjust it afterwards, at least in virtmanager (KVM) ). And there is an aspect I haven't really touched but heard that it improved performance which is gpu passthrough.

(I dont really limit processes and stuff, just simple alucation and configuration)

In case you are interested in setting up KVM, I am going to leave a video for you to watch, also I have found the gpu passthrough video if you are interested as well

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Aren't we all tired of this meme by now? Especially in this new age of Steam deck?

Seems a bit like trolling at this point.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Anti cheat is the biggest obstacle now, can't overcome that and if you and your friends enjoy playing together on a game that doesn't support it then you're SoL. Unfortunately only 75% or so of the games my friend group plays are compatible.

CosmicCleric , (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Anti cheat is the biggest obstacle now, can’t overcome that and if you and your friends enjoy playing together on a game that doesn’t support it then you’re SoL.

The EAS anti-cheat is on Linux now too, so the small minority of games that require anti-cheat tech on Linux is getting even smaller; it's heading in the right direction.

But my point is more towards the fact that we're trying to apply memes to cover 100% of something when it's really covering 1% of something.

It gets tiring/trolling after a while, especially with it's repetitiveness.

FonsNihilo ,

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  • CosmicCleric ,
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    Yes the steamdeck is phenomenal, but it is not perfect.

    Noone said it was. But presenting the 1% (Linux gaming doesn't work) as 100% is not factual, its anecdotal.

    And the meme leans into the 100%, which is tiresome to see over and over again, like if some company is desperate to try and sway/shape a narrative, instead of just people sharing humorous/insightful memes.

    columbus ,

    Use Debian or anything stable.

    olutukko ,

    Why? Bleeding edge has newer packages which are often needed when trying to play some new game. That's why steam OS is now arch based when it used to be debian based. Too old packages

    superbirra ,

    no

    olutukko ,

    Ok thanks for the valuable input. I understood so much from this reply

    superbirra ,

    not that I see any value in explaining anything...

    olutukko ,

    But you saw value in replying?

    superbirra ,

    what do you think?

    TheTrueColonel ,

    Yes

    superbirra ,

    indeed!

    mlg ,
    @mlg@lemmy.world avatar

    anything stable

    RHEL it is

    ryannathans ,

    Then enjoy not having your games work until you get the required updates years later

    superbirra ,

    lol, no

    Commiunism ,

    me, trying to setup Skyrim mods to play Skyrim CO-OP with friends and constantly failing to setup a mod manager:

    ZeroHora ,
    @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

    SteamTinkerLaunch works like a fucking charm for me(I only use Vortex)

    Commiunism ,

    Yeah I used it as well, but I was missing a couple of dependencies and realized that I have to move the loadorder files around in order for mods to be loaded. Was pretty annoying but it worked in the end.

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