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thezeesystem ,

Wish I could play games on Linux, but for some fucking reason I can't figure out my gaming laptop with Nvidia 1660ti will not work properly with most games. If I ever can afford a new computer I'm probably going with AMD instead tbh.

Commiunism ,

I know this is quite unprompted, but did you install correct video drivers? You gotta install proprietary nvidia drivers and its 32-bit libraries instead of nouveau

Caboose12000 ,

what distro are you using? I never had any issues on my nvidia build with nobara

abraxas ,

Optimus? Because Optimus is an absolute bastard. It's improved and I've had some luck, but it's painful.

TunaCowboy , (edited )

What's the output of nvidia-smi? If it's a newer laptop you might need to add a machine owner key so that secureboot will allow the required dynamic kernel modules to load. In debian the module will be signed with the dkms signing key, adding it as a MOK is fairly simple.
https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#Making_DKMS_modules_signing_by_DKMS_signing_key_usable_with_the_secure_boot

*Try disabling secureboot first, if things start working re-enable it and follow the advice above.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Good advice? In a meme thread? It's more likely than you think.

Crashumbc ,

While it's great that your helping them ..

This answer is exactly WHY Linux isn't desktop/gamer ready yet. At least for the masses.

EmergMemeHologram ,

This answer makes me think back to when I started using Linux and I posted on IRC that my wifi wasn't working. Somebody then gave me source code and a makefile and walked me through recompiling the drivers and installing them and it worked.

Linux users online can be the most helpful people around.

Crashumbc ,

Oh absolutely.

redcalcium ,

If your game run terribly on Wayland, try running in on X11, and vice-versa.

Thrashy ,
@Thrashy@lemmy.world avatar

I installed KDE Neon on Friday evening and things were going great, everything was testing well, and Saturday game night with the gang went flawlessly, but this morning the VMWare Horizon Linux client spontaneously decided that it didn't want to accept mouse input anymore, so after ten minutes of troubleshooting I gave up and booted back into Windows so that I can be productive today.

A battle lost, but the war is not over yet.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I get it, mice frequently just talk about nonsense.

VindictiveJudge ,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I got one that kept trying to get me to tell it the ultimate question or something, whatever that is.

Tetristan ,

I think i know the answer...

remotedev ,

Fievel: am I a joke to you?

jherazob ,
@jherazob@kbin.social avatar

Honestly Steam and Proton have solved like 90% or more of this issue, i was in this spot in the past for a long, long time, but Steam has made this work almost seamlessly for a great number of games

And then i got the Steam Deck and this went into overdrive

At this point i feel like Linux is a realistic option for a gamer, qualified of course (anti-cheat tech tends to break things, plus there's a few problematic ones), but we are at the point where you can buy an AAA title and be relatively confident it will run on Linux (check first though)

Smokeydope ,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

I still can't believe how good elden ring runs. Just about every single game i've played in my library has run acceptably for years now. The couple of games I had trouble with running like 5 years ago works nice now. Thank you steam/valve for the godsend that is proton and the deck. All hail gaben.

excitingburp ,

Honestly Steam and Proton have solved like 90% or more of this issue

As a somewhat recent Windows expatriate (1.5 years I think?), I certainly recall more issues on Win11.

BoastfulDaedra ,

WE DON'T TALK ABOUT WINDOWS 11!

lugal ,

Is the joke that games are proprietary software too?

abraxas ,

Well that too. The real joke is that despite the fact we've had 10 "years of the linux desktop", it's still an absolute bitch to get PICK A GAME working on that shiny linux box.

My new Lenovo Legion, I'm struggling with desktop graphics tearing issues in linux (just viewing the WM, of all things). When i have time, I'll muddle through it, but I can't pretend that is easier in linux than windows. It's vendor-driven, sure, but the end user doesn't care why they waste 8 hours doing setup work, only THAT they do.

13617 ,

THIS oh my god

And the amount of people that will do ANYTHING to defend Linux baffles me, and they all do it thinking they help Linux in general instead of highlighting their issues so they can be fixed

Grain9325 , (edited )

"Trust me guys, it's 95% better with Proton now" lol

Some of those people need to see all the users asking for help on Linux gaming forums.

Not trying to dismiss that Linux Gaming has gotten better before Proton but it can be an absolute pain at times.

abraxas ,

Yeah, trust me, Linux Gaming used to be real shit. "When it works it works" is lightyears better than it used to be.

I remember in my linux-only years, trying to muddle through linux exclusives. Oftentimes you had to be super careful because linux doesn't love prepared binaries

abraxas ,

I mean, I freaking LOVE linux. And for what it's good for, it's the best of the best. I've never had a better dev experience than in Ubuntu, mostly because WSL is a pale shadow of a good unix backend (and because Macs, while good, are still subpar for that purpose). But that means I'm already committing 40 hours a week to maintaining and using my machine!

But for gaming? For casual use? I dunno. The hardware has to be hand-picked carefully, as do the games.

BiggestBulb ,
@BiggestBulb@kbin.run avatar

Hearing this sort of stuff before is why I just chose to use WSL with my Lenovo Legion. Especially since mine has an RTX card in it

abraxas ,

I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate WSL with a passion that makes me scream. It has BSOD-looped a computer on me before. WSL is the only thing worse than making Linux work on something like a Legion.

Adding Docker Desktop on top of WSL is just a disasterpiece, and I have to work against a large dev docker cluster on a regular basis.

But if I'm being honest, none of that matters for gaming.

force ,

That and the software the hardware uses itself is proprietary

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It doesn't have to be

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

Why would anyone using FOSS stuff like Linux even want shitty corporate games anyway?

librecat ,

I know there's some good FOSS games out there, but unlike regular software the quality and quantity doesn't match up with proprietary options IMO.

maniacal_gaff ,

This was me last week when my wife wanted to play a PC game together and I threw the PC to the TV via HDMI for the first time since I switched from Windows to Arch. The audio would not work at all despite all the settings being very clear that it should be sending the audio over the HDMI. Same physical/hardware/cable/TV as the setup that worked flawlessly in Windows. Still not thrilled about that one.

LordKitsuna ,

Make sure it's sending to the correct port, if you go into the audio device management of whatever your desktop environment of choice was you should notice that you have the advanced options on the HDMI to select which HDMI port it's going to

maketheworldcute ,

It's crazy how much better things are now.
I had the same reaction some weeks ago when I wanted to play Leathal Company with friends and remembered I'm on Linux while they all used some 3rd party Windows only mod manager.
One day later I found r2modman in the AUR which automatically recognized Steam + Proton and everything just ran.
And there is even a Titanfall 2 cross platform mod program!!!!
The sofware support just keeps getting better every day.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

install grub

install windows

only boot into windows

???

yamapikariya ,
@yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com avatar

I always hear people say they sometimes have issues with games but I've switched to Linux relatively recently and I still haven't had a game in my library that didn't play.

BoastfulDaedra ,

Ever since Valve started kicking it for Wine/Proton, gaming has been a cinch.

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

Literally me when I was trying to get League working on Kubuntu on an 8-year old laptop lol

Unyieldingly ,

Found the Nvidia user.

Macropolis ,

It's such a pain in the ass. Every time I have a kernal update it's time to go into single user mode and hit up lynx for the new graphics driver.

onlinepersona ,

Fuck NVIDIA

tubaruco ,

do you mean their graphics cards or everything they make?

onlinepersona ,

No idea what else they make, but my experience with theirs graphics cards is enough to dissuade a purchase of any of their other products.

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bitwolf ,

Will you're almost free from that. I saw 6.7 uses the GSP firmware, so if you have a newer Turing card noveou (can never spell it) will be able to run games.

MonkeMischief ,

What distro?
Running OpenSUSE Tumbleweed here and used to have to do that too. It was awful.

They have an official Nvidia repo that works pretty great now though, and works between kernel updates.

...now if only updates would stop randomly deciding my computer can't wake up from sleep anymore, that'd be lovely...

JackbyDev ,

Why can/is openSUSE do/doing it but not others?

Unyieldingly ,

My issues have been proton with Nvidia, versions that work fine with AMD don't work with Nvidia i can't wait for NVK to be a thing.

For people who don't know what NVK is.

https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/introducing-nvk.html

BoastfulDaedra ,

Must be a by-distro thing. On KUbuntu and Pop! I've never had any issues with Nvidia, though I know that they're a pain in the ass to work with.

CleanDefinition ,

Same with Mint and LMDE, it just works.

BoastfulDaedra ,

Mint is remarkably stable. They even seem to put a barrier up against Canonical's questionable decisions.

That distro needs more funding and more shout-outs.

kittenzrulz123 ,

laughs in AMD

hakunawazo ,

On the other hand I have a laptop with Intel and dedicated Nvidia card. Longterm ongoing heat problems (one heat pipe, one cooler, bad placement, thanks Dell) killed the Nvidia card.
Windows couldn't run anymore and couldn't be installed again.
With linux the laptop works again, at least with the Intel 3rd generation card.

Senshi ,

Still a couple deal breakers for me, though most stuff otherwise runs fine.
No HDR support. Sucks if you have a great monitor but can't use it.
No nvidia broadcast. Necessary for my mic+speaker setup, common alternative such as noisetorch are convenient, but don't even come close to echo filtering quality from the speakers. Yes, that's super subjective obviously.
Performance tends to be noticeably to only slightly worse on max settings with nvidia on highly specialized, very demanding games.
Some anti cheat tools struggle with compatibility modes.

We're getting there, but it's tough with nvidia not caring. :/

BoastfulDaedra ,

I understand the HDR thing dealt with the standards for it being absolute undecided mess; but it's looking like we'll have support cranked out before the end of 2024. Here's hoping, I do all my multimedia stuff on KDE.

Aux ,

The problem is that we will have crap loads more cool tech by that time. And none will work on Linux. It's always years behind.

BoastfulDaedra ,

On this I must respectfully disagree.

HDR monitors have been standardized more poorly than Bluetooth was, so I could kind of see this sort of producer interference coming. It didn't help that the average user doesn't even understand what that means.

Most modern hardware works out of the box on Linux, and often runs a stripped down kernel as its own firmware.

Aux ,

Most modern hardware works out of the box on Linux

Except that it doesn't.

onlinepersona ,

We’re getting there, but it’s tough with nvidia not caring. :/

That's the biggest issue and unfortunately there's not much that can be done about that except maybe Linux users swearing off of NVIDIA.

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Senshi ,

My intent was just to provide a viewpoint from someone that loves and uses Linux aplenty, but spends a lot of time with Max quality gaming, using high end hardware.

And while things have improved massively over the past years and probably will get even better in the next years, nvidia's monopoly on top performance GPU means I'm being bottle necked by their shitty Linux support.

Sure, I can play almost any game out there on Linux, but not with the performance and sometimes not even the same quality I can achieve with Windows. I know this is no fault of Linux, but it's the pragmatic reality I'm confronted with.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Steam Deck time

doingless ,

I'm too blind for a tiny screen.

user224 , (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Reading this on smartphone in browser with desktop mode permanently enabled (and increased dp beyond smallest display size limit in dev settings).

I just wish it was 16:9. These ultrawide aspect ratios are terrible for a phone. Hell, I just want something like those old phablets.
My first "smartphone" was a 7" tablet with SIM card. Perhaps I should just try something like that, but tablets tend to be underpowered.

Resol ,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Nintendo 3DS XL time then

Pantherina ,

uses Linux

wants to run proprietary Windows Games on it

TropicalDingdong ,

I mean, I beat Ori and the Blind Forest on linux. Does that count?

Buddahriffic ,

Funny coincidence, that game was sitting in my backlog for a while and was the first game I installed on my deck. It's impressive how beautiful they were able to make such a dark and bleak forest. And yeah, 0 problems so far.

pipows ,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

I don't need to adhere to the FOSS philosophy in the extreme to be allowed to use Linux

Pantherina ,

Thats not the point. You buy Games by Developers with limited resources. They dont care about FOSS you could say, in many cases. So you are unsupported.

Linux runs Linux Apps, its Essence is that it is a free OS, that you can trust.

Running proprietary stuff made for other Platforms is interesting but a Battle. It makes no sense you could say.

It makes Sense for Valve, as they save themselves Billions in Windows Licenses and they can make a tailored device. And they sell Games.

For you, paying for Games and then working to make them run, I dont know.

Not that I dont like the idea, but its the job of Developers to make the Games run.

FrederikNJS ,

Sure... Which is why Valve has built Proton, which makes nearly all PC games run on Linux... Sure, the developers of the games themselves should have made the Linux port, but for many developers it's cost prohibitive to support another platform with very few potential customers.

But the more players who run Linux (and Steam Deck by extension), the larger the incentive for developers to support Linux natively. And in turn more games will get made for Linux, which will draw in more people to switch to Linux.

So as long as my game runs, then I don't care whether it was the original developer, Valve or an open-source developer why wrote the code that made it work. And luckily I'm one of those people that don't mind having to tinker a bit to make things work (hence why I'm on Linux in the first place)

If we as gamers stubbornly refuse to switch to Linux until our games are natively ported, then developers might as well just develop their games for Windows, where the players are...

Pantherina ,

The thing is that Proton runs multiple Apps. So no, its development, when shared, would not be too much work for Developers.

I agree that Linux users need to be different because we pay with time, the will to tinker, report bugs etc.

Honytawk ,

Well, too many Linuxians tell us it should work "flawless" because "gaming on Linux has improved sooo sooo much!"

liforra ,
@liforra@endlesstalk.org avatar

Most shit works, that said your expectations should firstly be that any windows only game doesnt work even if its not the case because the fact that its running most windows only games without major problems is really impressive, show me how to do that on windows (VM not allowed as Wine and proton arent VMs)

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