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rbits ,

Everyone in the comments: "Actually I don't have the same problems so this is wrong"

jherazob ,
@jherazob@kbin.social avatar

That's because Steam/Proton has mostly solved this (with some qualified notorious exceptions), which used to be a real problem even just a few years ago, but not remotely as much these days; the meme is mostly outdated by now, I've lived both cases and it used to be a pain but these days? people are spoiled by Valve and many have never lived the OP situation (which is great news!)

asexualchangeling ,

"I don't have the same problems anymore so this is outdated"

Ftfy

rbits ,

Still applies though. "Oh but it used to be worse"

asexualchangeling ,

Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but personally speaking I've had no issues playing the multiplayer games I play, which (in my particular situation) puts me above at least one of the windows users in my group

Installing things not through steam can take longer sometimes, but I always made sure to do that ahead of time anyway

rbits ,

Yeah, I mean, the best thing to do is to get it working ahead of time.

asexualchangeling ,

The same is true no matter the OS, It's always good to be prepared ahead of time

mynamesnotrick ,
@mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip avatar

Me playing wow on lutris and it crashing the one time a week as we start a raid boss.

Kanda ,

Never had an issue playing classic for a year

olutukko ,

I had for a while. Turns out it was just my overclocking thst was stable on windows but became unstable on linux when gaming

KuroeNekoDemon ,

Yeah give me a minute to install and setup proprietary Nvidia drivers, Retroarch, PCSX2, Lutris, Steam and Wine-staging along with all of the necessary dependencies. Worth it tho

kittenzrulz123 ,

Let's hope that game is open source, otherwise Richard Stallman would be very disappointed.

rickdg ,
@rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

sudo apt-get friends to play games with

ULS ,

Off topic... But isn't apt-get outdated? I thought it was just "apt install"

jackpot ,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

this is why we habve no friends

naughtyguy17 ,

Funny way to spell emerge.

Routhinator ,
@Routhinator@startrek.website avatar

If you're a user interacting with a terminal => apt

If you're writing a script or putting it in a docker file/automation => apt-get

Apt is just a wrapper around apt-get a newer binary than apt-get (I stand corrected after checking my memory against google) and there are warnings that the apt shorthand is not as reliable in scripted scenarios. Its meant for user convenience.

Apt-get is most certainly not outdated.

MashedTech ,

Interesting... What other cool facts do you have?

Naz ,

I tried Arch once and they use Pacman for everything.

It's like Pacman -sY to install. Makes no sense.

At least the AUR is cool.

One day, Linux will have a nice, unified, polished application portal (not store because god forbid we see a LINUX APP STORE).

For everything else there's git.

Git clone
Make
Pacman -sY lethal company
Sudo chmod +x ./home/user/games/lethal_company.x86_64

"Hold on guys I swear it works, Linux is just better, hold on"

AUR Proton_EasyAntiCheatHooks
Man -k Nvidia-Propietary
./etc/Xserver.conf --display one --mode C1B3 --vsync off
Sudo reboot -now

MonkeMischief ,

Best thing I found for Arch-based is yay.

yay -Syu
yay (application name)
It just searches repos and AUR in one go. Manages everything like Pacman. I quite like it.

Yay!

AVincentInSpace ,

coughs politely in flatpak

Zink ,

The crazy thing is, you would probably want to name it something direct and memorable like LINUX APP STORE to market it to the masses. Have a tag line like “it’s all free!” or whatever.

In the Super Bowl (no affiliation to c/superbowl) commercial, we’ll hear some grandma questioning whether the things on her new laptop were free from restrictions or free from cost, and her jock grandson will look right into the camera and say “yes!”

embed_me ,
@embed_me@programming.dev avatar

It's like Pacman -sY to install. Makes no sense.

If you read the man page for pacman, it helps. S stands for synchronise, Q for query (local), F is for find (remote), R is for remove. The following sub options (yu after -S) are specific to each main option.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

apt is outdated, use nala

ULS ,

Sudo lionking update && sudo lionking upgrade.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

No seriously though, I aliased the apt command to nala and I use it instead.

It works nicely with grc for colors in the console and more importantly it supports simultaneous downloads so it runs through a large queue of updates much more quickly.

This article has a bit more detail on the topic

JonEFive ,

Error: package not found

Really_long_toes ,

tries AUR

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Friends converted over to using snap, so now they all bring their (loopback) devices.

Rootiest ,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package friends
E: Unable to locate package to
E: Unable to locate package play
E: Unable to locate package games
E: Unable to locate package with
Itd4n ,

If I were to pick someone likely to overcome this adversity, it would be Miko.

sleep_walker ,

Steam with Proton made this way more easier than in the past. OTOH, yeah, sometimes I feel like this when tuning CS2 on Wayland.

A_Random_Idiot , (edited )
@A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world avatar

biggest ongoing issue i've had is getting Vortex working for Bethesda games.

but I just found a linux installer for Mo2, and while I dont like having to launch Mo2 to launch my modded game.. its fucking ecstasy island compared to the horrific jank of dealing with Vortex.

Cethin ,

Vortex worked fine with my (pirated) copy of Starfield near launch. I think I launched it externally, not through Vortex though. I know CKAN for KSP2 works fine but fails to launch the game, at least for me. It also requires forcing an override on a DLL to get most mods to function, but it's not much of a hassle.

Mango ,

This anime girl is so cute.

Cyreld ,
Mango ,

I are interested.

Also heck yeah! I already had this on my list as it is!

WldFyre ,

Are you 12??

tubaruco ,

no hes just weird

Suavevillain ,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

The only time I have trouble with Linux gaming is either a multiplayer game I want to play isn't supported or some Visual Novel having random issues every once in a while. But this meme is still true lol.

EmergMemeHologram ,

You've just got to power through the glitched textures and invisible floors, and talking to a floating pair of eyeballs and teeth is just the Mars Attacks version of your game.

MonkeMischief ,

I thought that was just Ubisoft quality control. :D

lledrtx ,

I'm so confused by why people have trouble with Nvidia on Linux. I have been using Debian and Ubuntu for as long as I can remember with Nvidia and it's never been a problem. Now I use Pop and it's perfectly fine too. No problem running dual 4K 60Hz monitors... Is the support bad on non-Debian distros?

BRBWaffles ,
@BRBWaffles@lemmy.world avatar

Depends on the distro. I spent a lot of time in the TTY with NixOS before I was able to get my 4070 Ti working. On Pop it worked out of the box, but that's not a worthwhile trade-off to me these days. Nix or bust.

Psythik ,

What about 4K 120Hz with HDR? How well does that work on Linux with nVidia?

isVeryLoud ,
@isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca avatar

Use KDE on the very latest kernel on Wayland, in theory it should work well but YMMV.

Psythik ,

Good to know, thanks. I want to switch so badly but last time I checked, HDR support on *nix is still in its early stages. I'll check it out.

isVeryLoud ,
@isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca avatar

KDE very recently implemented some HDR support thanks to Valve, GNOME is still waiting on some PR getting merged.

candle_lighter ,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

4k 120Hz will work without any special setup but HDR is a whole nother thing

Ziglin ,

On EndeavourOS I had some trouble for a bit but I think I got some drivers from flatpak and they worked with no problem.

ILikeBoobies ,

Is that game open source?

Varixable ,

As someone who was already only mostly playing single player games, the transition from Windows to Linux was so easy. All my games just work. The only multiplayer game I fuck with anymore is Battlebit Remastered, and that works great.

Since my style of learning is "jump in and figure it out as you go" (impulsive idiot), I've been very impressed with how much has just worked.

I've been afraid to recommend my set up to friends though because I don't want to be their troubleshooter.

mortrek ,

I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users. In fact, if it made it to mainstream, it'd probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc. How you may ask? Well, corporations have a lot of money and influence and I'm sure they could "find a way" if motivated to do so.

isVeryLoud ,
@isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca avatar

The idea is that the base should be open, so you can build whatever you want on top of it.

Crack0n7uesday ,

Apple uses *NIX, it will either become hardware specific versions or Linux where you pay for the OS with the hardware, or be like Red Hat where you pay if you want to do anything.

BorgDrone ,

I love Linux, but I never expect it to be mainstream or even extremely accessible to typical users

It already is mainstream. You probably own 10 times as many computers running Linux than Windows without even knowing it.

Desktop computers are a just a tiny part of the market.

it'd probably get ruined somehow by corporate interference, monetization, etc.

Yeah, it did. It’s called Android.

Ziglin ,

Yeah, it did. It’s called Android.

Aren't there Android versions that don't have all the Google things and are open source? (GrapheneOS and LineageOS)
If you're just talking about your average android I'm afraid I agree and am an offender myself. (I hope to change that one day though)

pandacoder ,

Google still controls the source, and so they have influence over the rest.

It's like Ungoogled Chromium. Sure, it's open source. Sure, if might have Google crap removed. Google still calls the shots on the direction of the browser.

Same still meaningfully applies to Chromium-based browsers.

Ziglin ,

That's good to know.

tslnox ,

This is a dumb argument. Yes, my phone uses Linux. How many of the Android users actively come in contact with the underlying system?

Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook with a real Linux distro pre installed (not that lightweight barebones distro they preinstall so they can sell it without Windows but with OS).

I use Gentoo, the family PC has OpenSUSE, only my wife's laptop has Windows... Because guess what, she wants to use what she's used to, what she knows.

BorgDrone ,

Mainstream Linux means a big part of people actively choosing to install a Linux distribution or buy a computer or notebook

How is that mainstream? Desktop computers (including notebooks) are a niche market.

MaxVoltage , (edited )

i have relinquished to windows. I log into all my pcs with my phone number now its so convenient i have like 4 licenses attached to it from buying hardware. They give me pennies for my data on Bing its hilarious ill get an Xbox 7 someday for free as a corpobitch

The new outlook though that is so ass. I expect windows 12 to be a much better experience and fully integrate the modern bloat like which sports team won last night right into my retinas!

RubberElectrons ,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like they gave you a free lobotomy too.

MaxVoltage ,

i needed it now i dont have enough neurons to experience distress

FidiFadi ,

For everything else, there will always be the Debian Foundation.

Yerbouti ,

Nobara + NVIDIA here. Everything works. Always. Seriously.

Aux ,

Does multi monitor setup with different DPI work? Do DRM videos play? HDR?

mortrek ,

They probably meant "everything that they use it for". Like, in my case everything on Linux works for me, but I don't play multiplayer games or use Photoshop. I have a single old monitor that can't do HDR. I don't watch Netflix. To be fair and pedantic, not everything anyone could possibly ever want to do works on Windows 11, either.

Yerbouti ,

Of course I haven't tested everything. But I've tested over 25 games and havent add issues. I do some serious audio editing (Reaper + tons of VST), video editing (Davinci Studio) and even tried some game engine stuff on linux (Unreal , Godot). Pretty much everything worked out of the box on Nobara. It's optmize for games and AV. Honestly, even a year ago, I had no idea Linux was so good. I use (and teach) macOS for work, and was using Windows for gaming, but now I can do 90% of my things on Linux.

Yerbouti ,

Yes, Yes (I think?, like what videos?), and Yes apparently.

fr4nk_j4eger ,

I mean, Lutris, Protonup-qt and Winetricks get the job done pretty easily and fast once you learn how to use them.

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