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Omega_Haxors ,

https://youtu.be/aLdBNYZQ6bc

MacNCheezus ,
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OP looking down on the unwashed masses after complaining about his fancy washing machine:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/036/772/vultouri.jpg

Siegfried ,

Im still waiting for the last edit OP, dont leave us hanging

camelbeard OP ,

I think it was 17:18 when the door lock finally opened. The very first time estimate said it should be ready at 16:10. So it was definitely a big lie.

RBWells ,

Our dryer does this to us:

Put clothes in, start it - it estimates 35 units of time. Come back in 15 minutes to check, it says 15 units left. Come back in 15 minutes, it now says 21 units left.

I am, like all of us, unsure of the fundamental nature of time. But the dryer even more so. The units are not one standard length, and they don't move always in the same direction.

noobdoomguy8658 ,

Valve time; the phenomenon is often observed in software development, with some calling it the software development time.

Jokes aside, reading this thread makes me appreciate the old junk for the washing machine I have around here much more - at least it's accurate with time!

hakunawazo ,

Software development time:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2f556b97-19a1-4099-ac89-c4a220363b20.jpeg

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

It's not always the fault of the device. It estimate the time based on the download speed in this moment, but it can't know that in the next moment your ISP server slows down or that your AV stops the download for some times to analyze a suspicios file, things like this to make your day enjoyable.
Because of this, never automatic updates. I recieve an notification if there is an update in the queue and so I can update when I like in a spare time.

0ops ,

That's a washer, or maybe a dryer I can't tell. I hope it's not downloading anything

Peter1986C ,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

Washer. It describes available washing programs in Dutch.

gallopingsnail ,
@gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Uh, this is a photo of a clothes dryer.

Caitlyynn ,
@Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I still wouldn't be surprused if it worked that way

Peter1986C ,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

The photo shows a washing machine though (I can read the Dutch labeling of the dials/buttons).

Zerush ,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

And who needs an Dryer, Washingmashine, Fridge or other home appliance with Internet connection to spy you? Then complaining on Lemmy about the lack of privacy on the internet and the control of large corporations over the user.

https://file.coffee/u/RoMRLR5csB1SMaE_oakOf.gif

KrokanteBamischijf ,

Had the exact same experience the other day. Fuck these machines, fuck printers, fuck microwave ovens, fuck software updates and fuck time estimates in general.

dangblingus ,

Shouldn't need to be an estimate. The washer and drier are on timers. Use that as the time indicator.

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Most dryers these days should be using a moisture sensor, not a timer.

Threeme2189 ,

Most dryers give an estimate of time but use a sensor to judge if the clothes are indeed dry.

kamen ,

Kind of like estimations in software development.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

estimations in software development are much less reliable IMO

BirdsWithBeefyArms ,

Lies. They're very reliable. You can rely on them to be wrong.

NegativeInf ,

Take whatever timeline you have and double it. Then add 6 more weeks of cram.

Thcdenton ,

Then the lying whore sings a cheerful little tune after it fucked up my schedule.

FQQD , (edited )
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How can this be an estimation, and how is it so wrong? Doesn't the program just have a hard-coded length? Or does the time vary based on clothing weight or something? This seems so utterly strange to me.

Shard ,

Seems to be a washing machine. 1600RPM spin dry.

The problem occurs because there are 2 conditions that need to be fulfilled.

  1. Its programmed to spin at set RPM for 6 mins.

  2. Before it can initiate a full speed spin it needs to ensure the drum is balanced. If its off balanced it will damage the spin motor and other parts of the machine in short order. (reference old machines that sound like an earthquake during spin cycles). It will keep attempting to adjust the clothes by start-stopping so clothes can fall in place. Only when the vibrations are down to acceptable levels will the machine initiate a full speed spin dry. Machine will stay stuck at set spin time until condition 2 is fulfilled.

The way to fix this is to open up the machine, untangle balled up clothes and allow the spin dry to resume.

camelbeard OP ,

Very good reply, just one thing to add, it's both a washer and dryer, we did a full wash dry cycle.

red ,
@red@sopuli.xyz avatar

It's even harder to estimate two separate things accurately. So many variables

Kase ,

Those are a thing? TIL, how cool!

Modern_medicine_isnt ,

Even worse... dryers often use a moisture sensor to determine when it is done. Load shifts, sensors gets more moisture, time goes up.

Blackmist ,

I assume it weighs it at the start and knows it's dry when it weighs the same again.

It doesn't know what the material is. Some dry quicker than others.

FQQD ,
@FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz avatar

That's actually a very smart way to do that. Couldn't have thought of that

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I see you bought a dryer that's in Hawaiian time

No worries, just go with the flow it'll work out

Fun fact though typically the last little bit of drying in the dryer is just cool down time, so just reach in there and grab those toasty boxers, you'll be fine

BCsven ,

Must be a Welsh machine. I'll be there now, in a minute.

jonne ,

The labelling is in Dutch, so it's either a Dutch or a Flemish machine.

BCsven ,

It was a joke, since the Welsh say "I'll do it now, straight away" for immediately, but "Now, in a minute" for I'll do it, but have no estimate of when it will get done.

Kyouki ,

to go full circle, it's a samsung eco bubble of sorts. I have one myself as a dutchy and I think it does time itself based on what's in there so it's just an estimation.

BCsven ,

Yeah, I have the same machine. it will be saying 1 minute left on the spin cycle for 10 minutes.

GissaMittJobb ,

I much prefer hang drying.

  • Less wear on the clothes
  • Basically no energy cost (technically not correct but it's really whatever)
  • Free humidifying during the dry winters
  • Fairly satisfying thing to do while listening to a podcast

The primary downside is that it's no fun to do it when it rains, neither indoors or outdoors, but as long as you time your laundry well enough, it's all good.

BCsven ,

Nothing like spring/summer outdoor fresh dried laundry

meliaesc ,

It's -11°F where I am today, my family still lives in Jamaica and I envy their ability to hang their clothes so much.

GissaMittJobb ,

It should be possible to hang your clothes indoors still, I guess. Outdoors as well I've been told, when it's a bit below freezing, but I'll admit that I've never actually tried that.

Knuschberkeks ,

I do all the time and it works.

GissaMittJobb ,

What's your usual strategy? Any maximum outdoor temperature you aim for, how long do you aim to hang the clothes, etc?

exocrinous ,

Relying on the weather to dry your clothes is a scam. You're just going to get tricked. I have ADHD so it's a no go

GissaMittJobb ,

What does ADHD have to do with this? I'm not sure that I get it.

exocrinous ,

I can't remember to do shit because I don't experience the mental construct of time in the same way as neurotypicals. And even with an alarm, it's still an extra cognitive load that makes me more likely to mess up everything else. If I forget the clothes on the line for a week, they'll degrade in the elements and get mildew from the night dew. Inside is a better place for me to forget my clothes. I have less stuff to remember for less time, an alarm is more help to me, and I don't have to plan for unexpected variables.

The drying machine is a disabled person's ally.

GissaMittJobb ,

I see - remembering to bring the laundry inside is the issue.

While there's nothing wrong with using a dryer - I'm certainly not going to deny you the privilege - perhaps hanging the clothes inside could be a passable workaround for the memory issue? Assuming your indoor environment allows for it, that is.

tacosanonymous ,

"Two minutes, Turkish."

TedZanzibar ,

It was two minutes five minutes ago!

TWeaK ,

My washing machine over-estimates at first, it drops nearly an hour after it gets going. However, it will underestimate later on.

Also, it does this thing where it beeps that it's starting, doesn't do anything, then unlocks the door for a few seconds, then locks it again and actually starts. That's been a life saver for catching that one sock that got left behind and didn't make it into the drum.

MNByChoice ,

Exactly. It is critical to learn what the machine means when not under time pressure.

PapaStevesy ,

Those aren't minutes, they're drying time units, which last as long as the dryer decides it wants them to last on any particular day.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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Who the fuck programs these things? Why even have this measurement if the units are not a fixed length? Just put a light on it that says “done” or “not done”

PapaStevesy ,

I mean, I was just being sarcastic, but it seems like that.

technicalogical ,

These dryers also have a timed function that will allow to to over dry your clothes as much as you’d like. The auto modes use sensors that can detect clothes that still haven’t dried completely as they tumble about. Pretty hard to make precise unless you’re attaching sensors to every article in the dryer.

BruceTwarzen ,

Imagine getting so mad at a dryer timer. If you hate it so much don't look at it and wait until it's done

anubis119 ,

Now I'm confused, how many drying time units are in a galactic standard week?

Custoslibera ,

I can understand the confusion, drying time units is actually a measure of distance not speed.

PapaStevesy ,

Depends how wet the week is.

TheGrandNagus ,

A washer or dryer is never late. Nor it it early. It finishes precisely when it means to.

dangblingus ,

That old toaster post, back from the dead!

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