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Railison ,

It’s okay because we are all Kosh

taanegl ,

Everybody's dead, Dave...

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

What is up with Star Trek memes on Lemmy anyway? I blocked like 5 communities already but they keep popping up all the time. It's a show my Dad watched as a young adult and he is almost retired, that's how old this shit is.

angrystego ,

Star Trek is not dead.

ProgrammingSocks ,

Star Trek has like 3 or 4 active shows right now. Also never could get into the 60s one but The Next Generation, DS9, and Lower Decks are all fucking awesome and I can recommend them to anybody that appreciates social commentary and great acting.

Seleni ,

Oh noooo it’s old no-one should like stuff that’s old only new things are cool

You know, one day the stuff you like will be old too.

Also, Star Trek been around a long time, yeah, but it’s still going with new content.

idiomaddict ,

Nobody answered you, but there was a conflict with reddit and Star Trek mods several years ago and so a large group of fans came here much before last June. They’re just better established than other groups.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Also if I made something with "federation" I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of Trek nerds showed up

tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

I still wonder if it's just so many old people ("old" in my perception aka idk 45+) on lemmy compared to reddit or if more younger people watch trek than I thought. I know 0 people in my age bracket watching it but have several senior colleagues being fans but might be just my case.

Magnetar ,

The avalanche has already started, it is to late for the pebbles to vote.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fuck that, I'm into all of them, plus Battlestar Galactica.

Ain't nobody paying me to not enjoy good sci-fi/sci-fantasy

FordBeeblebrox ,

I’ve seen them all and I need more space adventures dammit!

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

And of Avenue 5. That show was cancelled in its prime :'(

Taleya ,

Judd you gurning haemorrhoid!

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar
CyberEgg ,

I love all of them. And Stargate.

Son_of_dad ,

The Stargate guy is crying in a corner

AFallingAnvil ,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

Indeed.

Pharmacokinetics OP , (edited )
@Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

He is probably jealous of the Starship Troopers guy who got popular again because of Helldivers 2. The Firefly guy is probably playing a shooter arcade with his laser revolver and the Battlestar Galactica guy is piss out drunk.

Kecessa ,

Meanwhile people are looking at this guy going WTF?

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/4d6cc6cb-2b99-4aab-9517-9c8f3b7d40ba.jpeg

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

I know *I* am!:-P

Kecessa ,

Space: 1999

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Well that answers one question... and begins to spawn a whole new series of them:-).

Rhynoplaz ,

Among us???

Kecessa ,

Space: 1999

feedum_sneedson ,

Oh man I loved Power Rangers!

Son_of_dad ,

The Firefly guy is muttering "fucking Joss Whedon" under his breath

devfuuu ,

From all of them I'm only a fan of Stargate.

There are dozens of us.

I should rewatch sg1 again...

Son_of_dad ,

I just feel terrible that you guys don't have the berth of content that star wars/star trek fans have. I should give stargate a try

octopus_ink ,

FYI -

  • You need to bear with it through the usual S1 growing pains
  • By today's standards it's almost unbearably 90s, especially during the first season (IMO)
  • It really does get great.
  • It made me cry at least a few times.

SG-1 was a great mixture of comedy and drama in sci-fi IMO, and while it's not my very favorite franchise, it's easily top 10 for me. If you haven't seen it before it's worth your time for sure!

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Personally I feel like the show really finds it's legs in S3 but kicks it into high gear for S6.

I'm sure every fan has a list of episodes you can skip, and while I do skip a lot of S1/2 depending on how long it's been since I watched those particulars, personally I think they're all important for Stargate as a whole. Necessary to watch on your second run I think, not necessarily for the first.

Luckily since I know the people I've watched it with pretty well, I know what can be skipped and what they'll need to watch to really "get it". And I summarize the episodes we skip. Sometimes I'll even give them the option like "next episode is pretty slow, no real action but a lot of off-world things and important conversations/drama" and let them decide if they want to watch a slow episode or not.

Although honestly, how can you think the episodes where Daniel poses as Yu's servant are boring? Sure no big explosions and action sequences, but it's riveting.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I don't think SG-1 started off as rough as, say, Star Trek TNG did. They were making overall good television even in the first episode of SG-1.

The first two seasons especially had the Torchwood problem of trying to be very emphatically a show for adults, which is why there's that infamous full frontal scene in the pilot episode. I think they realized that there's money in syndication on basic cable so they produced most of the rest of the show to kind of a PG rating which stabilized the tone.

octopus_ink ,

Personally I feel like the show really finds it’s legs in S3 but kicks it into high gear for S6.

Really I have to agree with that now that you mention it. I think it had been too long since I watched it. :)

I’m sure every fan has a list of episodes you can skip

I skip nothing on any show! I know people commonly do this, I just don't. If I'm watching it, I'm watching it warts and all. 😁

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

While normally I would agree that you should take it all in as-is... It really depends on how many times you've seen it..

SG1 was my jam while it was still running, and I watched it every chance I got from S4 onwards.

When my family didn't have cable, we had the first 5 seasons of SG1 on DVD, and I watched them. A lot.

So I definitely have seen enough of The Broca Divide and Emancipation and will happily skip them my next go around. If I'm showing them to a new person though, it's "you should watch ALL OF THEM"

octopus_ink ,

Fair, I can definitely see how there would be a point of saturation!

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

I'm trying to get my wife through the series.

Daniel just died and she's pissed. Hates Jonas already just for being "not Daniel"

I love seeing Stargate brought up in the wild

DmMacniel ,

Beware if Maybourne. He may steal your hotdog.

CarbonIceDragon ,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

Stargate is the best "star-" franchise imho.

Son_of_dad ,

I vaguely remember the movie, I liked the cool concept behind it, but i didn't watch any of the shows

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

The shows are the best part.

The movie was meh as far as I'm concerned. Neat but meh. I was pretty young when it came out and only saw it with my dad many years later.

SG1 is where it's at. 10 seasons and 3 movies of fantastic TV.

Atlantis is even better for the action-lovers, I feel like it was much more action-packed. That's partly just because both shows are products of their times, SG1 started when TV shows were much slower paced, but picks it up as the years pass. Very different first seasons.

Universe is unlike either of the other two, and if you approach it expecting more SG1/Atlantis you will be disappointed, and likely not finish the series. It's far more focused on drama, I think. Recently someone compared it to Lost, and honestly I can see the influence. The whole "mystery" aspect, having no idea where the story will go next... It's a totally different show that you might not like even if you loved the other two.

I'd say watch a few episodes from like season 6 or 7, and decide if you want to see more. It is a product of its time and the first season of any show can be hard to get through, 90s shows especially.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Universe was the Sci-Fi SyFy channel seeing Battlestar Galactica's success and demanding a "grimmer, darker Stargate show." It sucks pink eye.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

So here's the thing about Stargate canon:

There was the movie. Roland Emmerich planned to make a couple of sequels turning it into a trilogy, but that never happened. Bill McCay wrote a short series of novels based on the premise of those sequels through the late 90's.

The TV series Stargate SG-1 treats the movie as like 96.7% canon. There are some very minor things directly retconned, for example in the movie the nameless planet they go to is said to be in the "Kaliem galaxy" where in the show the same place is named Abydos and is located in the Milky Way galaxy, but beyond a few details like that it is treated as established fact.

TV show picks up from where the movie left off, then takes a 27° right turn and heads off in its own direction compared to where the books went. It kind of feels like the writers were given nothing but the theatrical cut of the movie to study with no other context or creators' notes or anything, and then told to make a TV show out of it. And then they did a very good job with this assignment.

You know how some shows have a first season problem? Like, Babylon 5's first season is a little rough and it really gets good in Season 2, or how you should introduce someone to Star Trek TNG at Season 3? SG-1 has some early installment weirdness in the first six episodes or so but they're watchable, and then by mid-season 1 it finds its groove.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Farscape says what the frell?

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starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Moya is cooler than the rest of those ships combined

She doesn't need to frell herself, she already bad a baby

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

There most definitely could not have been a show without her! :-P

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

She literally carries the actors throughout the show.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

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nightwatch_admin ,

seaQuest DSV: Let me in! Let me iiiiinnnn!!

yukichigai ,
@yukichigai@kbin.social avatar

Naw he's off at RenFaire.

paddirn ,

The only thing that comes close to the greatest sci-fi quote from those three franchises is Luthen’s speech in Andor, otherwise this one from G’kar in B5 is one of the greatest bits of prose in sci-fi:

It was the end of the Earth year 2260, and the war had paused, suddenly and unexpectedly. All around us, it was as if the universe were holding its breath…waiting. All of life can be broken down into moments of transition, or moments…of revelation. This had the feeling of both. […] G'Quan wrote, "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope. The death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender." The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future, or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born…in pain.

Pharmacokinetics OP ,
@Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world avatar

G'Kar is one of the greatest sci-fi characters I have ever seen. Andreas Katsulas did an amazing job with the character's amazing writing. G'Kar has so many amazing quotes, and every word he speaks is so very poetic. This one is my personal favorites.

https://youtu.be/m7aKEmxE9nA

RememberTheApollo_ , (edited )

G'kar and Londo absolutely made B5. The most interesting character arcs, probably the most fleshed-out characters, and Katsulas and Jurasic stole the show with their acting. All the hardships G'kar suffered and the philosophical outlook he kept despite the anger he had to deal with, Londo's moments of self-awareness, yet he remained trapped by culture and politics... Their interaction and introspection on screen was something I always looked forward to. I need to go watch that series again.

Edit: Just started watching the series again. I don't know why I didn't remember, but the writers really started off painting the Narn as the plotting and scheming baddies. Funny how that changed over the course of the series.

Alexstarfire ,

I'm only at the start of S5. Man, I hated Londo for so long. I wouldn't say he's redeemed himself, but at least he's a better person now.

troglodytis ,

Greatest sci-fi quote: Victory tastes like ashes

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