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lapislazuli , (edited )

Wet shaving is still very much a thing; in fact in the last decade or so, it's had a renaissance of sorts (tho it was probably re-gaining popularity already in the early 00's). I've been a wet shaver for 2.5 years but decided to buy me an electric shaver because these days I have less time for wet shaving. It can done be quickly but what's the point if you've got to rush it. Links for those who got curious:

https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/

https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/media/

https://sharpologist.com/

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Darkscryber ,

How do you know someone is wet shaving? They will tell you about it. Like eating vegan, doing crossFit and barefoot running.

barsoap ,

It can done be quickly but what’s the point if you’ve got to rush it

Yep a good shave needs time and most of all four passes: first with the grain, that's for the colleagues, second two at right angles to the grain, that's for your lover, and the fourth one against the grain, for personal satisfaction.

OTOH if you know what you're doing a quick and dirty shave is just as good as an electric one and you don't have to deal with batteries. If a short buzz cut is all you want do that.

The whole setup is a bit of a bother if you're new but basic guidelines:

  1. Shower. Well you don't 100% need to but dry skin and shaving don't mix well so do it before.
  2. A whisk and bowl, a cheap synthetic whisk is just fine the natural hair ones are a bugger to deal with anyway (have to take care to dry them properly etc), 5-10 bucks for the whisk, 25ct for the bowl in the euro store they came in a 4-pack, really tiny stainless ones. The rest I use for mise en place.
  3. Shaving cream/soap. Don't think you'll get away with using those self-foaming gels in a can they clog the razor, don't glide well, and I've never come across one that's nice to the skin. Comes in bar or tube form, some are better at gliding some smell better if you're lucky you get both, I'd put the palmolive shaving cream on #1 as "what to get when you don't know what you want": Glides very well, dirt cheap, forgiving when whisking, like a bit over a buck a tube.
  4. The actual foam: This is going to take some trial+error, you want extra water in it but don't make it a soup, you want fine bubbles and proper shaving cream/soap will make them have standing power (though if you're in a pinch you can use regular soap, no biggie). It should be nice and sloppy, with two 'c's. If in doubt, whisk more. Apply, then let soak, make coffee or something. Oh, some people don't use a bowl to whisk but do it directly on the skin. IMO they're madmen, it's like brewing tea in your mouth, but you do you.
  5. The razor. Lots could be said about geometry, about different comb sizes, ultra-fancy blade change mechanisms, long story short buy a Merkur 23C, 30-40 bucks, chrome-plated zinc and brass. Good weight, excellent general-purpose geometry, inexpensive, literally unchanged for a hundred years. You might be tempted to cheap out and get a Wilkinson they sell cheap plastic holders that take standard razor blades but trust me the only reason why they're selling them is to make people believe standard razor blades suck.
  6. The blades. Feather is the creme de la creme and might be just a bit too sharp for some, and also comparatively pricey. Russian manufacturers generally are good but given the situation let's boycott them, many western producers have spotty quality, that leaves BIC. Yes, the guys who also make lighters, ballpoint pens and surfboards. Bonus: Carton/wax paper packaging, if you re-wrap used blades and put them back in the carton you can toss them in the bin, no worries. How long a blade lasts depends on many factors, the biggest of which is your personal preference. But even if you buy feather blades and use a new one every day you'll still end up spending less money than using a cartridge system.
  7. Shaving: See the very top. Be aware of the grain, flip the razor over to wear the blades evenly, occasionally rinse it in the sink, you'll figure it out. Avoid being silly: Don't move the thing sideways over the skin that's how you cut yourself. The geometry of the razor will tell you the right angle, just let it lead. Always make sure there's good gliding going on, never tolerate resistance. Make funny faces to get skin into places where it's easier to shave, make it taught, etc. It's an ancient, secret art, traditionally transmitted from father to son, with a break in tradition you'll have to rediscover it for yourself.
  8. Cold (not ice cold) rinse. A very good way to wake up.
  9. Aftershave, a deeply personal matter. Generally speaking you want an astringent to stop any bleeding (also micro bleeds you can't see) and a disinfectant and something nice for the skin, my personal recipe is first alumina alum, rinse, then a bog-standard random face wash from the discounter, says aloe vera. The alum will burn worse than an aftershave with alcohol could ever burn but once you rinse it's over and I don't want to sit there with a slightly burning face for half the morning. As said: Deeply personal matter. Use whisky if you want I don't care.
Randomgal ,

That sounds like shaving with extra steps.

barsoap ,

You're completely right, I described shaving with the extra steps of figuring out what to buy and why to buy it as well as showering and making coffee. I even briefly touched on cooking.

hydrospanner ,

Right?

The cherry on top is that this whole ritual is to save someone the hassle of "having to deal with batteries". The horror!

I'm not doubting that it's a more rewarding experience, but it always cracks me up when proponents of an obviously more laborious process in anything also feel the need to act like it's easier too.

It's like baking your own bread, making your own pickles, building your own wooden furniture, or making any number of dishes "from scratch". Sure it's probably better in the end, but that's after buying a bunch of stuff, going through a significantly longer and more tricky process, and often after making mistakes and building an entire new skill set.

For most people, all it will become is a lesson in why they preferred the original path of convenience in the first place.

barsoap ,

The cherry on top is that this whole ritual is to save someone the hassle of “having to deal with batteries”. The horror!

You missed the "a quick and dirty [wet] shave is just as good as an electric one" part, didn't you. In both cases I'm partly scratchy by noon and fully scratchy come evening. A good wet shave will be about as good in the evening as a quick or electric one is once I get to work.

For most people, all it will become is a lesson in why they preferred the original path of convenience in the first place.

If the convenient path gives you a result you're happy with then take it. There's a reason I put "personal satisfaction" as a step after "for your lover".

I don't even shave that often. But when I do, I do it properly. I also don't make Ragout Bolognese that often but when I do, I do it properly. If that offends you then I can't help you, either.

NewAgeOldPerson ,

A rare sighting of a gentleman in the wild!

Personally, I will start this when I retire. Right now, I do go to a straight razor shave once a month. Just because it's nice. Personal care.

hydrospanner ,

You missed the "a quick and dirty [wet] shave is just as good as an electric one" part, didn't you.

I didn't miss it, I just didn't feel it was worth it to point out how obviously wrong it was.

Sure they might give equivalent results, but one is significantly faster, easier, and less hassle than the other.

I've done both kinds of shave and there's no arguing that a wet shave gives the superior results...but pretending that it's not a lot more fuss and effort is just ridiculous.

Rai ,

I’m here to defend pickles!

We use a quick-pickle recipe, we can make six to eight big jars in under two hours. Even using mediocre cucumbers, they’re WAYYYY better than anything you can buy in stores. You get jars of slices, spears, little pickles if ya want… Pickle diversity! Way less money, too.

The rest of the things you’ve listed I agree with.

hydrospanner ,

Once more, with feeling...

I'm not saying it's not more rewarding, better quality, etc.

But it's not easier than just buying a damn jar of pickles when you're at the store.

I make them and buy them, I garden my own cucumbers specifically to make them. I've made quick ones, slow ones, garlic ones, spicy ones...it's not hard...

...but I'm not going to pretend it's faster or easier than buying a jar from the fucking supermarket.

Because it's not.

Rai ,

Jeez dude

All of the other things require so much more effort and time for similar results.

Pickles take not much time and effort and are insanely better and less expensive than picking up a jar at the store.

I never claimed it’s faster or easier, I’m just saying it doesn’t take anywhere near as much time or effort to make infinitely better pickles than to make bread, shave using a safety razor, MAKING FURNITURE?! etc.

I don’t know why you’re so defensive, it’s just… I love good pickles, and they’re easy to make. It’s not in the same world as the other stuff ya listed.

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

Yes! I've been growing some hot peppers recently and throwing some of those in with the pickles is amazing if you're into spice.

xohshoo ,

I use Merkur shaver with Cremo cream. Here's my process:

turn faucet on until hot water running. Wet face. Apply cream. Shave. Rinse and dry

It literally isn't different from shaving with a cartridge except a better shave, more pleasant, and cheaper. OK, it probably takes 10 seconds extra to change the blade vs popping cartridge, but that's it

I shaved with an electric for a couple years, bad shaves and bad skin

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

I mentioned this elsewhere but unless you have sensitive skin you should be able to use a safety razor pretty much like a 3 or 5 blade, ie without a ton of prep. Pretty much wet your face, apply cream (although I haven't tried it with the cheap foam stuff bc I stopped using those awhile ago), and go to town.

If you want to make it a whole thing it will probably get you a super close shave in the end, but if your goal is just to shave before work it should work fine in the same amount of time as the multi-blades. I've never had much luck with an electric-- I've got pretty thick hair and electrics inevitably pull at some of my hairs instead of cutting (I've never tried a high end electric though), so discovering safety razors was great for me.

lapislazuli ,

Thanks for sharing the instructions with folks here. As I said above, I've been a traditional wet shaver for two and a half years, so I pretty much know all this. However, wet shaving takes a lot of time for me and for various physical reasons and limitations, I cannot spend a long time shaving. I've learned how to speed up the process, but this means sloppier technique and it shows on my skin. At this point I want to give my skin a break by having a short stubble rather than going for BBS (that stands for BaBy Smooth) every single time. 😄 I don't mean to scare people away from traditional wet shaving, I'm just speaking for myself, who happens to have some motor function problems etc. If you're fairly "normal", there should be no reason not to try traditional wet shaving. It's a treat and something to look forward to every single time.

FellowHuman ,

For some reason I read th his in the vouce od Dara Ó Brian.
"It goes into the waaal."

(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BVxOb8-d7Ic)

manual3204 ,
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JustUseMint ,

Idk why but this bothers me

Patches ,

Because they owned the house for who knows how many decades and only used 9 razor blades?

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

If it was a vinyl, it would still count as a mint condition.

jubilationtcornpone ,

"Ah, it's only been a couple months. This blade is still good. Ouch! Ooohhh... That's a bad cut. Oh well. Just need a wad of toilet paper to power through it."

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

The year is 1950. A veteran of World War II has come home, married his best girl, gone on a whirlwind honeymoon to exotic, far off Daytona Beach, then like many people in this time, picked a location and built a house. Then he's recalled to service to go fight in a place called Korea, and never returns. His widow never remarries. Most of a century later, the next owners of the house wonder why there's so few razor blades in the wall.

Kecessa ,

Safety razors with disposable blades were introduced about 120 years ago, at one blade a day that's a bit less than 45000 blades

Double edged blades dimensions are: 0.1mm x 42.7mm x 22mm for 98.21mm³

45 000 blades would take a volume of 4 419 450mm³ or about 270in³

A regular indoor wall is made of 2x4 and each stud is 14.5 inches apart (16 inches on center). A 2x4 is in truth 1.5" x 3.5" so each inch of height inside the wall is 3.5 x 14.5 x 1 which is 50.75in³

45 000 blades stacked perfectly would therefore use 270 / 50.75 = 5.32 inches of the wall's height... So even if they didn't stack perfectly, it's pretty safe to assume that there's enough space inside the wall for hundreds of years at one blade a day (especially since old houses usually used true 2x4 and had their studs at 24" on center)

prowess2956 ,

Also, most people use blades for more than one day's shave. I think more like 3 - 7, depending on the blade and how picky the shaver (I get more than seven shaves per blade).

lightnsfw ,

Same. I've gone 6 weeks on one blade if I was working from home a lot and didn't have to shave often.

Kecessa ,

Yep, just trying to show how there's no way someone fills that wall in their lifetime

redcalcium ,

One blade a day?!! Are you a billionaire or something? The acceptable signal to replace the razor is when the pain from the dull blade pulling your hairs makes your eye watery, and then you try to man up for a couple more shaves before accepting defeat and put in a fresh blade.

Kecessa ,

It's an exaggeration to show how long it would take to fill a wall

ook_the_librarian ,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

The acceptable signal to replace the razor is when the pain from the dull blade pulling your hairs makes your eye watery

Sounds like a blade a day to me.

Ook

AngryCommieKender ,

Orangutans aren't supposed to shave.

Ukuli ,

Those old school blades are cheap as chips though.

fidodo ,

Then one day someone does maintenance on the wall...

elrik ,

0.1mm seems awfully thin for a double edged blade.

It's also unreasonable to assume they will stack anywhere close to perfectly.

My guess is you're off by at least a factor of 20.

Hagdos ,

While true, 1 blade a day for 120 years is also off by a factor of 20 in the other direction.

Kecessa ,

Number came from Feather

I already covered the "don't stack perfectly" thing, but the vast majority would still fall flat.

Amaltheamannen ,

Assuming they would use the volume perfectly is a pretty big assumption, it's likely you wouldn't even get a tenth of that.

Kecessa ,

They would fall flat for the most part and I already addressed that in my message but thanks for telling me, you're just the third one I think.

Coreidan ,

Don’t stick your dick in it

hakunawazo ,

A hole in a steamy bathrooms wall where you dispose wet things full of human skin cells sounds like a mold-hotel.
And if there are kids around, they put everything small enough inside.

psud ,

Bathroom medicine cabinets are generally out of reach of children

MrFunnyMoustache ,

If I had this in my home, I would draw a face around this "mouth".

andrew_bidlaw ,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

come feed me used blades

OceanSoap ,

Curious as to why this fell out of fashion?

IHeartBadCode ,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

The used razor blades were arming the rats who were also in the wall.

tquid ,

Yeah that’s some bad mojo

Hupf ,

狗娘养的 - Reavers!

SlopppyEngineer ,

Probably because the metal razor blades fell out of fashion first. This setup doesn't work with throwaway razors and mach 3 pro extra plus whatever systems.

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

I recently got into shaving with a safety razor and I don't know why I ever bought expensive 3 or 5 blade heads from gilette or whatever. Despite what some enthusiast shaving communities might make it out to be it's really no more difficult using the single blades and it's way way cheaper.

Son_of_dad ,

I tried it a couple of times and my face got torn up something awful. I switched back to the Gillette multi blades, but now I take care of them and dry them well. I have sensitive face skin but thick beard hair and it didn't like single razors.

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

Ah that's too bad. I have thick hair as well but I guess my skin isn't too sensitive. It also seems like it's a sharper shave than the multiblades, but maybe that's because I didn't use to change them enough bc they were so expensive. At least it's easier to get hair out of it when it's just one blade.

I used a single blade disposable once in a pinch a long time ago and I guess wasn't careful enough and cut pretty deeply into my cheek.

redcalcium ,

Gillette knew stacking more and more blades would bring out some primal urge in men. They saw their pals rocking 3 blade heads and knew they must get the 5 blade version to one up them.

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

I think I remember a (SNL?) sketch from back when 2 blades were the norm and maybe there were some 3 blades starting to come out with an ad for like a 17 blade product.

meyotch ,

The third blade prevents the hair from snapping back and injuring you.

al177 ,
tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

Oh yeah, thats the one for sure. The Onion predicting the future again!

General_Effort ,

A blade tugs at the hairs before cutting them off. That pulls them out of the skin a tiny bit. The first blade pulls them out, the second grips them before they retract, and cuts them off lower. It makes a noticeable difference. The third blade makes a very tiny difference. After that, it's marketing. (Should I look up studies to cite?)

In my experience, electric gives the cleanest shave. In the long run it's cheaper, too.

lyam23 ,

In my experience I get a much better shave with a DE than a disposable razor. It's also much cheaper and reduces waste significantly. Cartridge razors are a scam.

tigeruppercut ,
@tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip avatar

I've never had an electric that feels good--maybe bc I have really thick hairs it always has some places that get yanked instead of cut. Cost wise I guess electric's pretty cheap in the long run but you can get single razor blades for about 10 cents so it's also pretty cheap

Agent641 ,

Where do they go? To the Oubliette.

xX_fnord_Xx ,

What's an Oubliette?

ToxicWaste ,

French, oublier: "to forget" or "to loose". Also a medieval torture device. Look it up at your own risk.

Agent641 ,

Its like a solitary confinement torture dungeon, but worse. Its a narrow pit below the dungeon where they toss people who are condemned to death. Too narrow to sit or lie down, even if your legs got broken when or before you were thrown in. All sorts of shit piss gore and blood get tossed in too. Probably other harmful junk like live rats and broken glass. There is no return, and they dont clear out the previous tenant or remnants thereof before the next one is moved in.

xX_fnord_Xx ,

That explains a number of things. I thought it was fancy landlord talk for French Style Studio Apartment.

No wonder my rent was so below market rate.

Rai ,

Ask Hoggle. Labyrinth’s full of ‘em.

Drusas ,

I think this is the first real TIL for me in ages.

jol ,

Congrats ☺️

RIP_Cheems ,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Not just hotels, but regular homes too.

corsicanguppy ,

Yep, a hole in the medicine cabinet.

MooseLad ,

Yep, my house is over 100 years old and has one in the medicine cabinet.

DaCrazyJamez ,

My old apartment had one int the bathroom medicine cabinet, and that building was built in 1974.

LemmyKnowsBest ,
DickFiasco ,

Fuckin razor blades. Where do they go?

JustUseMint ,

Wall filled razor blade FAQ

I am living in your walls.
You may be concerned about this. In case you are, please read the below:
FAQ:
Why are you living in my walls?
I'm not going to tell you.
Are you only in my walls?
You could say I am living in everybody's walls, but in the case I am telling you that I am living in your walls, I am living in your walls.
How are you surviving in my walls?
In my non-physical form, I am crawling around listening for you. That is all I need to survive in that form. In my physical form, I survive by eating rat corpses that I cook using the wall behind your oven, and I drink the vapour in the extraction fan duct above your shower.
What are you planning to do in my walls?
Live in them, listening to you.
What do I do about you living in my walls?
Listen for the scraping. Dont touch the walls. Protect yourself. Avoid lighting candles.
When are you going to stop living in my walls?
You cannot escape me.
Do I call the police?
The authorities will not help you.
What are the consequences of you living in my walls?
Be aware.
What if I am ok with you living in my walls?
I will make sure you’re not.
Are you imaginary?
I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS I AM LIVING IN YOUR WALLS
If there are any more questions then please consult your walls by directly speaking to them.
Summary:
I am living in your walls.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Ngl, this sounds like the premise to a GREAT horror show, like American Horror Story. :-P

DannyBoy ,

I've come across one or two walls full of blades doing basement renos.

corsicanguppy ,

Why were the walls doing renos?

wunami ,
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What else will they do with all those blades?

chemicalwonka ,
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  • lukewarmtuna ,

    It just dumps out to the empty space in the wall all the way to the floor, it would take a very very long time to fill that up to where it's "full", you'd have to fill the wall to that height in a wide area near the hole

    doggle ,

    It's a pretty big area back there and razors are very small. It would take decades or maybe evenover a hundred years of regular use before it is likely to fill up. The building could even be condemned or otherwise destroyed before it's full.

    But yes, if it did somehow fill up, you would need to remove the tiles and cut a section out of the wall to empty it. That's not so big a deal if you only have to do it every 50+ years.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Who cares, it takes hundreds of years of daily razors to fill the gap and by that time your line will probably have sold the home or ended

    Reddit_Is_Trash ,

    Exactly. By the time it's full it won't be your problem!

    Problem solved!

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