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scytale ,

The other issue I have with conferencing apps on browsers is that they request access to your microphone even if it's a one-way audio session (i.e. webinar). It should be set in a way where you can separately join a meeting with audio without allowing access to your microphone.

dukk ,

I mean, there’s probably some workaround involving faking the microphone, right?

abbadon420 ,

I feel validated, reading about my daily struggles with Teams.

jol ,

Neither can slack.

chpsnick ,

I use Slack on Firefox everyday

jol ,

You use Slack voice calls?

chpsnick ,

The Huddles? Yes all the time

jol ,

Huh. I always get the message that they are not supported on my browser.

Thermal_shocked ,

You can use multiple work accounts in the app, have some clients that have their clients give them accounts to communicate internally with them. Just have to keep switching.

potustheplant ,

Just wanted to point out that this is a feature in the "new" version of teams. Until about a month ago it was impossible to log in to two work accounts simultaneously.

Thermal_shocked ,

she may have been on the new one, i don't remember.

vermyndax ,

Teams won't even open on Safari. Must use a chrome-based browser (like... Edge!)

Kayel ,

To be fair, I don't know many complex websites that work on Safari

vermyndax ,

It's really not as bad as people portray. Most sites do work in Safari. There are some problems, but they've been pretty good about licking them over time. It's passable enough that I only have to punt to an alternate browser once in a while.

I've tried to use Firefox, I really have. But Firefox absolutely murders my battery and I'm sorry, but they need to do some serious usability improvements... especially around the container implementation and tab management. It's confusing as fuck (to me).

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

use teams classic, most professional workspaces are switching to it since the "new" teams came out

kralk ,

What is the difference? I had an IT guy remote into my system yesterday to delete Teams and install Teams classic

JustARegularNerd ,

New Teams is a rewrite of the old Teams client which is intended to be faster and better to develop for MS as it's based on a newer framework.

However it does seem to still have a few odd bugs here and there. I do find it faster myself though.

mariusafa ,

This team block is so agressive to firefox users that it's literaly hardcoded as if web browser firefox then deny.

You cam override that by changing a parameter in firefox to advertise itself as another we browser. I don't remeber how i did it but, once i had to use firefox and i just changed that stting in order to advertise me to the host as a edge browser. With that changed i could use teams as normal.

Epic drm.

spongebue , (edited )

When I'd search "(location) weather" on Google (e: in Chrome) and I'd get a really nice at a glance forecast right on top. Do the same thing in Firefox and I'd get a whole bunch of weather websites I could go to. The former obviously being a better, more direct experience. I found an extension that fools Google into thinking it's Chrome and all works fine with that.

I'm amazed if this doesn't violate some antitrust regulation

IntangibleSloth ,
@IntangibleSloth@lemm.ee avatar

Android addon to fix this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/google-search-fixer/

GhostMatter ,

My main problem with this is getting amp links in the results after.

uranibaba ,

Started using https://qwant.com a few years ago and the bliss of forgetting about amp links is real.
(though I am considering https://kagi.com instead.)

seth ,

Add a single letter and you'll get one of the best comic strips of all time: Dinosaur Comics! https://qwantz.com/

uranibaba ,

Haha, thanks for the reading.

ilinamorato ,

Try Redirect AMP to HTML. It's worked pretty well for me.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Got a name for that chrome spoofing add on for FF on a PC by chance?

Telodzrum ,

UserAgentSwitcher has been the gold standard for like 20 years.

spongebue ,

The intangible sloth who replied to me provided a link to the one I use

Asnabel ,

Just checked: Duck Duck go displays the forecast right on top.

ratcliff ,
@ratcliff@lemmy.wtf avatar

They do worse than this. Search it on a weather site, pretty easy to get around

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

User agent string.

frankenswine ,

You can make it work by changing your UserAgent string (there's plugins for that) to some older chrome version to make things work.

helpmyusernamewontfi ,

The problem I have with this though is if enough people on Firefox spoof their user agent to Chrome, it's gonna look like less and less people are using Firefox and Chrome will eventually have a monopoly.

And009 ,

Not sure that's how monopoly work, the folks on both end will still have data of their actual userbase

helpmyusernamewontfi ,

Sorry I dont really understand your point, it could be my bad English.

I'm gonna explain my point further; You can make it look like you're using Chrome when you're not, and if everyone just makes it look like they're using Chrome, then developers will only support Chrome and Google can and will pull off whatever shit they want to like Web DRM, just under a different name which they've done in the past.

So the minority using Firefox won't have proper support and will see more pop ups like these from more websites. The only difference being whatever feature the website needs actually won't be supported on Firefox because developers only see that everyone is using "Chrome".

Kyouki ,

How about not having these arbitrary not needed restrictions in the first place? This is just the usual scummy behavior from this company.

And009 ,

Yes the developers will see the spoofed data like you said.. But is the UA the only classifier?

Would like to hear a devs opinion. Maybe the people making those decisions need to be sensitive about this skewed data.

hypertext ,

They already have a monopoly. The amount of people using FF is pretty small unfortunately. And there's a bunch of sites that only test in Chrome and sometimes even actively "block" Firefox like here without making an effort to check for capabilities instead of user agent.

helpmyusernamewontfi ,

sadge.

frankenswine ,

I think you can spoof per tab/container. i used an exclusive Firefox Profile for the bad/contaminated (read: not privacy respecting) browsing - in there i'd ocasionally switch the UserAgent to make Teams calls.

there's no way i'd work on a machine with M$ spyware installed and always running

ratcliff ,
@ratcliff@lemmy.wtf avatar

Jitsi is better

qaz OP ,

But I can’t accept a Teams call on Jitsi, can I?

Dehydrated ,

No

camelbeard ,

Do you think I'm using teams because I want to use teams??

Zuberi ,

Just change your Useragent, Microsoft is a bunch of dummies and didn't even bother to code it in a way that makes sense as a DRM lmfao.

MojoMcJojo ,

I had to look it up, here's what I found (please correct me if I got it wrong):

To change the user agent in Firefox, you can use the built-in Developer Tools. Here's how you can do it:

  1. Open Firefox.
  2. Press Ctrl + Shift + I on Windows or Cmd + Option + I on macOS to open the Developer Tools.
  3. Click on the "Network" tab.
  4. Look for a small icon that looks like a mobile phone and a tablet together, usually located at the top-right of the Network tab. This is the "Responsive Design Mode" button. Click on it.
  5. Once in Responsive Design Mode, you'll see a dropdown menu at the top of the screen where you can select different user agents (like various mobile devices, different browsers, etc.).

Remember, changing the user agent can sometimes lead to unexpected behavior on websites, as it tells the website that you're using a different browser or device than you actually are. This is usually used for testing and development purposes.

Edit: a word

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

There are add-ons to select a different user agent without getting that technical.

shadowintheday2 ,

Ctrl+ shift + M

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

And here I was just setting general.useragent.override each time.

Fun fact: Some time in past Firefox used to support per-domain overrides (without add-ons).

camelbeard ,

There's an addon that can do it and remember the setting per domain or website.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

I, for one, would appreciate a link to said addon

SavvyBeardedFish ,

I've used:
User Agent Switcher

Successfully using;

  1. Whitelist mode
  2. Domain = teams.microsoft.com
  3. UserAgentString = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/118.0.0.0 Safari/537.36
Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Thnx!

camelbeard ,

Awesome I was on my phone so I couldn't quickly check what addon I was using.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but the point is that you shouldn't have to. There should be cross-compatibility.

Thief ,
@Thief@lemmy.myserv.one avatar

I read this whole thread and didnt find a single person who uses teams inside ferdium like me.

camelbeard ,

Is this like Franz ? I used that for a while, was pretty good actually.

I now use the unofficial teams client, it works ok for me.

Thief ,
@Thief@lemmy.myserv.one avatar

Unsure. Also unsure hat unofficial client you use.

betz24 ,

I works for me without a user agent change if I enter through the Microsoft 365 teams workspace and not a teams share link.

danielbln ,

Remember when Internet Explorer/Edge was only used to download Chrome. Well, ironically these days I only use Chrome to make video calls.

Mio ,

Reason?

  1. Firefox does not support Microsoft Teams
  2. Microsoft disabled support for Firefox
  3. Problem for a specific computer/account
ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

2 but not because of missing features in Firefox. They just hate competition.

ad_on_is ,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

I used to freelance for a big corp who used MS teams and provided me with separate credentials, while also having my private MS account, that I occasionally use for other corps I worked for.

It was a hell using it that way. I had to run each one in a private Brave window to be able to work on two different accounts.

I know they only use MS teams, bc their infra is all based on MS, and it probably works fine for them internally. But man, this shit needs to be fixed in some way to account for external people, especially the ones who chose their own stack and work simultaneously with others.

wigit ,

Apparently the dumpster fire known as MS Teams supports multiple accounts now.

jacksilver ,

It does, but it basically reloads the app when switching. Which, if I recall correctly, means no notifications from the other account and really slow swapping between accounts. When I had to use multiple accounts I would use the app for one and a browser for the other.

wigit ,

Luckily, I’ve been able to get away with only using Teams for meetings, so my exposure is limited, but last time I messed around in the top right corner there was an area that indicated it would show notifications from other accounts.

I have had no need or desire to test this, though.

TheFonz ,

The new teams doesn't seem to reload the app (or ita really fast). Still garbage program.

bouh ,

Teams rarely works well internally.

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