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Did ad blockers survive YouTube's offensive? Letting numbers talk

TL;DR version:

  • From June to August, the number of active users of the AdGuard Ad Blocker extension for Chrome dropped by about 8%. But in late August, the trend reversed. The temporary slump in user growth was offset by the increased demand in the second half of the year.

  • After a brief period of turbulence that lasted about a month, we saw the trend stabilize. And while the daily number of uninstalls was still higher than before YouTube's crackdown, it remained consistently lower than the number of daily installs.

  • After media reports and YouTube’s own statements implied that ad blockers were doomed, and especially after more and more users started noticing that their ad blocking extensions were not working properly on YouTube, we did indeed see a spike in uninstalls. However, at the same time, the number of installs also increased significantly! It may well be that the way ad blockers’ woes were amplified in the media inadvertently boosted their popularity and helped them woo new users.

  • The takeaway from all of this is that ad blockers — first and foremost, ad-blocking extensions — were rocked by YouTube’s onslaught, but survived. And, moreover, the interest has rebounded, as is evidenced by the growth in the number of active users.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

I'm watching YouTube right now with uBlock Origin working without issue.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

I have the same with ublock, however the video quit with sponsorblock. Ublock doesn’t block all yt ads.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca avatar

Are you using Ublock, or Ublock Origin? Origin is the one you want.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Origin. Just shortened it up for brevity’s sake.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Guess I'm lucky, I have not seen any ads so far.

TheGrandNagus ,

Still using Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock. I've not seen an ad on YouTube for years.

On my phone I'm using Tubular, a fork of NewPipe with Sponsorblock integration.

nicetriangle ,

Yeah ditto, been working fine for me

dan1101 ,
@dan1101@lemm.ee avatar

Same, on phone Newpipe works fine for me so far.

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

Seen plenty of people talking about the crazy ads they see on Youtube. Right wing propaganda, blatant grifting, scams... Folding Ideas has done not one but two videos talking about the ads he saw and picking them apart. Surely the people complaining about these ads know adblockers exist right? Why don't they use them? I'm sure there are several reasons but, it's been a known quantity for decades that you have the power to control how many and what kind of ads you see.

TerraNova ,

Is Tubular an Android only thing? I can’t find it. I'm still looking for an iOS solution.

Dehydrated ,

You can use Yattee with this guide

TerraNova ,

Will try this tonight. Thanks!

Dehydrated ,

If this doesn't work for you, I have another (not as great) option that I used to use, back when I was using iOS. You can find a Invidious or Piped instance you like and a shortcut to it on your home screen. Obviously, that's not as great as having a nice native app, but it works.

cmnybo ,

Youtube still works fine with uBlock Origin. I've had the adblock detection pop up a few times, but updating the filters fixed it every time. I will never uninstall my ad blocker. The web is not usable without it.

jerrythegenius ,
@jerrythegenius@lemmy.world avatar

Are the adblocker-detection bits a chrome/ium-only thing? I use firefox w/ ublock origin and I've never gotten any

Got_Bent ,

I've gotten it on Firefox this week.

Since I very rarely comment on anything, the solution is generally to just log out of my account.

I need to learn the filter truck mentioned above.

jerrythegenius ,
@jerrythegenius@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I'm normally logged in ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

prole ,
@prole@sh.itjust.works avatar

filter truck

The what now?

Got_Bent ,

Filter update. No clue how autocorrect got truck out of that.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Perhaps you originally meant to write trick?

Lmaydev ,

Yeah I have my adblocker disabled on edge on my work laptop as it messes with my web dev.

I accidentally used it for general browsing and I couldn't believe what people put up with! It's like a totally different internet.

ares35 ,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

that effect is amplified in areas with only shit-tier internet, like half of rural america.

DefiantBidet ,

YouTube slowing itself down to unusable made me write a local extension that takes any YouTube watch link and opens it in yewtu.be my life has been better since. Fuck you tube's stance. You're gonna make the experience terrible I'll watch your content via another client.

Chee_Koala ,

Very cool! I'm walking this same route, but with LibRedirect and Invidious Instance Selector Firefox addons. Maybe libraries can do community video-hosting and moderation? But please, no more businesses

PopMyCop ,

Have you tried LibRedirect? It works for quite a bit more than just youtube. I personally love it for the fandom mirrors.

partial_accumen ,

I'm not familiar with yewtu.be, but couldn't you accomplish the the same thing with a simple Host File entry in your operating system? Get the IP of yewtu.be (by pinging it which I just did to get 104.244.72.25), create an entry that says:

youtube.com 104.244.72.25

So when your OS goes to find youtube.com, it gets directed to the IP of yewtu.be

ostsjoe ,

No, the browser would still send YouTube.com as the host header. While yewtu.be could be configured to allow this to work, the TLS cert would not and the browser would get upset.

Dehydrated ,

Your browser doesn't check SSL certificates?

hiramfromthechi ,
@hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

For those of us who can't code their own extensions: LibRedirect does this for other sites as well, not just YouTube.

elshandra ,

Oh, ty. This will replace a few extensions for me.

Dehydrated ,

Keep using adblockers and don't surrender your digital freedom to big tech corporations. Also check out private frontends for YouTube (and other plattforms: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/frontends/

dog_ ,

Honestly, whenever I want to watch YT, I just open YT with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock in a Private Tab. Haven't really noticed anything, and honestly it helps me to stop watching videos.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Did they survive? In my case, they got stronger.

In principle, I actually support the idea of people running sites being able to support themselves financially through advertising. I just don’t like when the ads go too far into obnoxious territory. So before all this, I used Adblock Plus with its "acceptable ads policy" to let through unobtrusive banner ads but block prerolls, large graphics, and interstitial ads.

Unfortunately, ABP didn’t adapt to YouTube’s changes quickly enough, so I switched to uBlock Origin. Now I don’t even see unobtrusive ads. Google shot themselves in the foot over this one.

rottingleaf ,

When webmasters running homely sites with flavor of their own personality would add places for ad banners, that was fine. You usually knew what kind of content you'd see on which banners where, and they weren't as bad as now.

With modern ads served by companies stronger than many states, on platforms with less personality than many nation-states have, it just became something you never need which gets forced down your throat via phishing practices and works exactly as phishing.

Nobody who literally follows those ads and believes them does understand what they are doing. It's aimed at teens who can only poke fingers at screens and at elderly who can also often only poke fingers at screens.

It's a completely predatory thing by now, with no fair scenarios of usage. It should be outlawed if nothing else works.

Gosh, at this point I'd approve of an official state-standardized replacement of the Web, intentionally limited in extensibility, a bit like Gemini, only without the "minimalist" and "small" parts, which would be mandatory for state institutions, medical institutions, educational institutions, public transport etc. Maybe more similar to HyperCard or having some PostScript support there =\

Zagorath , (edited )
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

When webmasters running homely sites with flavor of their own personality

Honestly this is why I'm so bullish on ActivityPub. Like this video sort of gets at (apologies that that's a Nebula link. I think you can get one Nebula video for free if you're not a subscriber, or you can wait until it goes up on the TechAltar YouTube channel after a couple of days or maybe a week—the full interviews with fediverse people are unlikely to go on YT though; I'm currently watching the Automattic CEO interview and finding it brilliant), federation is a really great way of going back to a world of smaller sites hosted by people with a passion for what they're doing. But it'll be even better, because of the ability to interact with all these different sites with one unified account. Tumblr and WordPress embracing ActivityPub are an awesome step in that direction.

edit: looks like the main video is already up on YouTube. Must have been only a 1 day delay on this one.

eltrain123 ,

I wonder if they saw a large enough down tick is user traffic to realize that endlessly badgering people with 5 ads to watch a 30 second clip is driving away their user base.

I know my YouTube consumption has decreased by a factor of 10. I used to use it for almost all of my streaming entertainment. In conjunction with other streaming services’ password sharing crackdown, I am spending more time reading and going outside than I have in the past decade. That’s a trend these providers don’t want catching on.

Itsamelemmy ,

My YouTube use is going down because the algorithm absolutely sucks now. I went to the gaming tab 2 hours after the state of play and it was nowhere to be found. But outdated years old crap was being shown.

But never had any ad issues with ublock origin or revanced.

eek2121 ,

If I had to watch ads, I would not use youtube. Period.

slampisko ,

This. My preferred way of catching up to my favorite channels nowadays is watching their content on LibreTube with AdBlock and SponsorBlock on and supporting them on Patreon if they have one.

sigmaklimgrindset ,
@sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yeah, recently had my Android with adblockers break, and my YT consumption is almost non-existent now as I watch more on mobile devices than on PC.

As an aside, if anyone has any advice for a ReVanced-like app for iOS, I'm all ears. I miss my Pixel 🥲

BReel ,

I was someone who always knew about ad blockers, but just wasn’t bothered enough to use them.

I used YouTube SO much that it was worth it to me to have premium.

After all the bitching and moaning from YouTube last year, I un subbed, downloaded free tube instead, and also finally added an ad blocker to both my mobile and desktop browser.

I imagine I’m not the only one with that story haha.

FlavoredButtHair ,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

How many still didn't subscribe to YouTube Premium?

VieuxQueb ,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

Tubular on my phone and firefox with ublock origin on my PC. don't have money to pay anyways.

ansiz ,

I've always just used uBlock on Chrome and I never see ads. I'm not doing anything other than that so it surprises me so many people have such trouble with ads.

oDDmON ,

Then, there’s this: https://restoreprivacy.com/state-spyware-extensively-using-ads-as-distribution-channel/

For this reason alone, fuck any company banning ad blockers.

AtmaJnana ,

Its literally always been that way. When a webmaster gives up control of their content, it gets exploited.

Passerby6497 ,

Yeah, malvertising has been a thing for over a decade, maybe closer to two. And it is something hosts at every level have had to deal with, including NYT and BBC.

I'd have no issue allowing ads if company's properly vetted what was being advertised and did so through their own host/domain, because then you'd know that there was a human between you and whomever they're selling space to. And I've seen a few small blogs do this sort of thing when I've been deep down a rabbit hole trying to solve a problem, and I respect the hell out of them for being willing to do the legwork to own what you serve. But most places want to do ad sales at such volume that its just not 'economically feasible' (ie, it eats away at the money they're getting from the ads) to do so.

QuadratureSurfer ,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

GrayJay has been great for Android, I haven't had any issues watching YouTube.

Using the built-in Ad blocking on Brave browser (both Android and Desktop) I haven't had any slowness or issues with YouTube at all.

0xb ,
@0xb@lemmy.world avatar

Didn't uninstall any of my AdBlock layers, but YouTube didn't survive.

Even though I actually never saw the famous popup, the whole thing made me take steps after months of feeling that the recommendations sucked and I was often wasting lots of time watching stuff I didn't even like.

Now I'm actually getting back into reading and audiobooks, and using invidious for the occasional watch.

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

I can't remember the last time I saw an ad on any of my devices, so I'd say "lol"

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