Probably another method of gathering user data for their AI training models.
I no longer think that big media corporations are doing stupid things for no reason because they're dumb
I think they do stupid things because they want another way to train their dumb AI and we're all too dumb, mindless and powerless to say or do anything about it all.
It's crazy when you think about it ... humanity is degrading itself from all corners just to raise an idiot AI child that will be just as messed up as we are.
I just want the videos i've subscribed for to actually show up in my sub feed. That's really it, man.
People are Google are being paid upwards of 200-300k a year to do this. It's a prime example of doing something just to fulfill your quota on the kanban board
The Home tab is where they seem to mix videos from subscribed and recommended creators. I highly suspect payments influence the frequency of subscribed recommendations on the homepage. (Subscribed) Colbert used to show on Home, then NEVER EVER did again for YEARS until a few weeks ago. Now he gets top placement, several days in a row.
You see random videos on the subscription tab? (Admittedly I don’t use it.)
I don't really want recommendations for anything. I just want my subscribed channels to appear in my subscriptions page. More than half of the videos from these channels are missing, because the algorithm decided they're not what I want to see. If a channel I'm subbed to posts something, I want to see it in this list. No exceptions
A coordinated effort to stop visiting them until certain features are included, or certain changes made would be glorious, however I just don't see it happening
There's a lot of basic config/features YT needs. I'm a paying customer also. (YT premium family)
Like as a simple example. I don't want to watch shorts. I can X the shorts bar away for 30 days at a time but it just comes back. Why can't I disable shorts in settings permanently? (I mean I know why)
I want to sort channel videos by date, oldest to newest because the content I watch is longer form and generally follows a timeline of events that I want to watch in order.
that is all but impossible without manually creating playlists and adding videos in the order you want (a real pita)
I cannot easily get back to watch the next video in that series. Doing the above helps, but there's no pick up where you left off. There's some BS continue the video you were in the middle of featuring paywalled in premium that I find mildly helpful but most times if I bail on a video I'm done with it I don't want a reminder/easy continue tile for it.
I don't want to watch shorts. I can X the shorts bar away for 30 days at a time but it just comes back. Why can't I disable shorts in settings permanently?
Right, and I have grayjay for my phone but the majority of watching is on Nvidia Shield. I realize there's smarttube and others that can do things. My point is I shouldn't have to jump through hoops.
There are millions of youtube videos uploaded every single day. Why do I always get the exact same stuff in my recommendations? And why does YouTube shorts keep playing the same clips over and over again? Even the ones I disliked.
Oh man I needed this! Not the stupid extensions that play it in a normal YouTube window or something. I just wanna remove that crappy short form video stuff altogether.
You should never dislike on YouTube. They just view it as engagement and will give it you more. To actually get rid of content that you don't like, you need to use "not interested" in the context menu.
Google gets more money if the video has more ads. Google also pays more in bandwidth and storage if the video is really long or high res. Also, advertisers don’t like drugs, violence or guns, whereas makeup and mobile phones are totally fine, so those videos are a suitable background for ads.
All of these variables go into the calculation that determines the sweet spot for Google, and the search results are ranked accordingly. You may be looking for an hour long video essay on the torture methods seen in the Hellraiser movies, but Google really wants you to spend more time on 5-minute crafts instead. Actually, 30 s shorts would be even better, as long as they keep you preoccupied.
Youtube seems to base my suggestions on shoots wall of videos with a shotgun style of recommendations.
I do everything in my power to stop Google from tracking me, but when I'm watching youtube videos on youtube, it should be able to gifure itself out.
And "don't recommend this video to me, I don't like it" does nothing. Just to see how long it will keep this up, I keep telling it I don't want to see let's play videos of star trek online. But it sure wants me to see them, dozens of them, daily, sometimes recommending the same video I already told it not to.
And its really been pushing me to watch right-wing conspiracy videos and flat earth videos after whatever I just purposefully clicked on, despite most of my content views being future Sci fi with either apocalyptic levels of devastation on galactic scales, or "post-scarcity utopia where energy is virtually limitless and energy/matter manipulation is easy peasy, usually liberally peppered with anti-capitalist and progressive themes"
And of course "female leads bad because feeeemale".
YouTube constantly suggests right wing side of things. Watch a video about Captain Marvel/Brie Larsen once? Get bombarded by YouTube shorts on why she is killing the MCU. Watch something about Star Wars? Get shorts on Gina Carano talking about "woke" Disney. Doesn't matter that the political commentators that I subscribe to are progressive. Although I will admit to likely being at fault because those shorts tend to have more scantily clad versions of the characters and I am certain I look at them a split second longer while scrolling because boobs.
I can't say I ever recall seeing anything right-wing in my recommendations. No anti-woke rants, no conspiracies, nothing like that at all. I'm glad whatever curse you guys have isn't affecting me.
Hilariously, after watching a channel that did some comedy skits based on "life in star trek" and very clearly, vocally supportive of progressive ideals, literally one being "work unions are good and necessary even in the Federation where things should be great for everyone" I got a ton of reccommended videosafter each one, from red hats wearing oakleys sitting in trucks looking down at their phone to yell, one of which was literally titled "unions are destroying America"
My favorite though has to be a video discussing progressive ideals clearly displayed in the original star trek shows from 30+ years ago (The Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager, and Enterprise) and their tackling of modern socioeconomic and political issues. Non-binary species, white/black patterned species, extremely on-the-nose metaphors for the holocaust and palestine/israel/Gaza, and literally outright showing "fuck your racism here's a kiss between a white man and a black woman with great hair"
And the "up next" video was "NUTREK IS TOO WOKE" by a very angry looking man with a confederate navy jack on the wall.
Instead of click Not Interested, I recommend igoring them. It might take a few days or even a week, but I they should start to disappear from your feed
Is that conceptually asinine? Absolutely... But it's your best bet
The not interested doesn't work, the don't recommend me videos from this channel works perfectly, and if the first video I get recommended of a channel is so repulsive to me I actually care to do something about it, the entire channel is probably bad anyways.
this is beyond jumping the shark, this is a whole new category of stupid
it's worse than musk-esque stupidity, because clearly there's thought and research behind this, it's all just incredibly cynical and demeaning to the human race
That is stupid. I wish it would just let me block channels for real in search. Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?
If I want something news related, that doesn’t mean I want to see Fox News or other random right wing nutjobs who scream into the camera about “wokeism” every day for 4 hours.
Disable Shorts (uBlock lets me filter them out, at least)
At the very least let me control the fucking volume on Shorts instead of muting/unmuting them only if you're going to force them down my throat (seriously, it makes the entire video format unwatchable on Desktop because every fucking Short video is so god damned loud)
Disable holding left-click to fast-forward a video (I do this thing where I'm about to pause a video and hold down the click until they're done talking and this change is just so fucking stupid, I don't understand who needs to hold down left click to fast-forward)
Actually block channels I'm not interested in
Block videos based on keywords
Recommend videos based on the one I'm currently watching if my watch history is disabled
Seriously, since disabling it YouTube does nothing but recommend "trending" crap that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm watching
If they'd implement even half of that, my user experience would shoot up through the roof. But, you know, they couldn't give a rat's ass about user experience.
I'd also like them to fix the search. It only returns a small handful of results and then the rest is just recommended stuff not relating to the search
I know it's been said many times, but I truly miss the old internet. Fuck this homogeneous, corporatized, spyware ridden, ad infested, data harvesting, soulless, pile of fucking dogshit called the modern internet.
Not only that, let me hide whole dumbass channels. Then apply a similar function at Google search so I can spare my eyes from seeing a 1000 temu ads with each result.
Just let my choose which sites I want to block from showing me search results and ads.
Add "autoplay the next episode of the podcast I'm watching if it's available." Yeah, youtube, I really wanna watch Well There's Your Problem #138 immediately after Well There's Your Problem #43. Idiot.
Disable holding left-click to fast-forward a video
Oh god yes I hate this so much. If I want to control the playback speed of video there is an option in the settings for that. If they wanted to make it an option to fast forward by doing something rather than just changing the setting globally, it would have been better if they had picked literally anything other than me having to keep my finger on the mouse button. It should have been if I hold down the right arrow key.
Currently the set up that makes youtube somewhat tolerable for me is, Ublock Origin (obviously), sponsor block, Return youtube dislike, Youtube-shorts block , and UnHook. Another option would be to use invidous, Freetube, or NewPipe, but all of them are not perfect and have their own limitations.
Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?
This was probably a joke but I can actually answer that for you.
First of all, afaik there is no scientific consensus that people see the colours the same way. In fact, we most likely don't. The visual colour interpretation is mostly likely merely added on by our brains basing on the knowledge of wavelengths. In other words, there is no such thing as "absolute blue". There is "a blue" which is the colour each one of us' brains was taught to call blue by simply showing the sky. If I were to look through your brain (but not through your eyes, eyes understand wavelengths), we would probably disagree on each and every colour.
Second of all, there are different kinds of colour blindness. It is in fact an umbrella term for different disabilities. My understanding is that they usually involve a spectrum between two hues. So most colourblind will simply be unable to tell a difference between objects of two colours: for example red and green. They see them as slightly different versions of the same colour. However it would be wrong to say that the person in question sees red as green or vice versa, because, again, there are no "absolute colours". Their eyes cannot distinguish between these two ranges of wavelengths and the brain interprets them as the same colour.
And finally, colourblind people, when diagnosed, are fully aware of being colourblind, and furthermore, they DO NOT see in black and white. Even if a person cannot distinguish red and orange, then they still are aware there is a difference that most people around can tell and that there are concepts and feelings associated with them.
What I am trying to say is that a colour-blind person would probably still be able to, for example, associate "red" videos with action and blood, and "green" ones with nature and calmness, even though this distinction is not palpable to them.
Either way, this filtering with thumbnail colour is fucking stupid.
Very interesting - my job involves a lot of Excel and charts, so I recently took a training on how to make those more accessible for colorblind folks. So that’s good to know!
