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lemann , to homeassistant in HA Voice Chapter 7 - Supercharged wake words and timers

Really nice to see improcements being made to local voice control.

I personally haven't opted for it yet due to the computing reqirements - instead been looking into dedicated offline voice recognition modules, since they use much less power. Downside is that they recognise a mostly predefined set of commands, and are just looking for patterns in speech instead of actually performing voice recognition

Would be interesting to compare the two voice control approaches side by side at some point

chaospatterns OP , to homeassistant in HA Voice Chapter 7 - Supercharged wake words and timers

I've been eagerly looking forward to the time when I can replay my Echo Dots with a self-hosted solution, but so far I haven't found hardware that I really liked the look and style of.

EarMaster ,

That is really a missing part of this whole thing. I get that I could build something myself, but I don't want to have the hassle of doing it and keeping it working all the time (because I am able to build it, but not on a "works perfectly all the time" level). I really hope that sometime in the future there is a standard for smart speakers (and screens maybe) that allows me to add them to my cloud service of choice.

bushvin , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.6: Dipping our toes in the world of AI using LLMs
@bushvin@lemmy.world avatar

Oh cool, implementing mediocre algorithms. What could possibly go wrong?

warmaster ,

Local LLMs have been supported via the Ollama integration since Home Assistant 2024.4. Ollama and the major open source LLM models are not tuned for tool calling, so this has to be built from scratch and was not done in time for this release. We’re collaborating with NVIDIA to get this working – they showed a prototype last week.

Are all Ollama-supported algos mediocre? Which ones would be better?

geophysicist , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.6: Dipping our toes in the world of AI using LLMs

Okay but when can we use the weather forecast on our dashboards? Functionality was retired with no replacement

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar
rach ,

It's still working for me though I remember I needed to change the entity id and a automation a while back

Munkisquisher ,

The free data source was cut off, there's several replacements of varying quality depending on region.
The met.no one is good for me.

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

What are you referring to when you say "when can we use the weather forecast on our dashboards? "

I've probably got the simplest and most "Out of the Box" dashboard stuff going on you can imagine and I've got forecast data showing with automations that run against it. What am I missing?

geophysicist ,
scrubbles , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.6: Dipping our toes in the world of AI using LLMs
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Great, but it's restrictive only letting you use openai and google. I'm already hosting oogabooga text generation, let me use that

Zikeji ,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

I believe that's because those two APIs support function calling, open source support is still coming along.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Ah that makes sense. That's when I'd start using it myself. Self hosted models and audio

wagesj45 ,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

Mistral Instruct v0.3 added in function calling, but I don't know if its method for implementation is the same/compatible. Also, it is fairly new and wasn't released all that long ago. Hopefully we'll get there soon. :)

Zikeji ,
@Zikeji@programming.dev avatar

I saw a few others, but the ones I looked at were basically instruct layers where you'd need to add your own parser. I didn't find anything (in my 3 minutes of searching) that offers an openai chat completions endpoint, which is probably the main stopper.

wagesj45 ,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

Looking at the documentation it looks like it relies on Mistral's python tooling to work. I'm fairly dumb, so I don't know if the tool suggestion coming from Mistral is from some kind of separate neural net or as some kind of special response you have to parse (or that their client parses for you?).

Heavybell , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.5: Just a little bit smaller
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

In case anyone else was wondering why the fuck the Epic store logo is in there, there is now an integration to keep track of discounts and such.

Daqu ,

Finally.

captainlezbian , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.5: Just a little bit smaller

Ooh I guess I should try again to see if I can get the os on my spare computer

asbestos ,
@asbestos@lemmy.world avatar

Put a lil bit of proxmox on there and fuck around

captainlezbian ,

What’s proxmox?

fluxx ,

It's a hypervisor level virtual machine host and you can use it to install multiple os's on the same machine with little overhead. I've been running haos like that for a few months now and I'm super satisfied.

captainlezbian ,

Ooh, do you know if it can work on an old pc being repurposed as a server? I’m very new to all this

fluxx ,

Any PC that has virtualization features can be used. Unless it's very old, I'd say it's supported. But it may not be enabled in the bios by default. It's called VT-x for Intel and AMD-v for AMD, I think. But both are supported for at least 10 years on almost any PC.

captainlezbian ,

Oh wonderful, it’s an old pc my job was throwing out last summer so it’s like a 5-8yo intel. It’s not powerful by any means, but if I can run enough on it to justify the standby power draw it would be great.

Unfortunately I still have no idea wtf I’m doing lol, but worst case I break it all and wind up buying a home assistant green. I’ve committed to ensuring my home has good air and this is a project I think we’ll appreciate me following through with

doctorzeromd ,

There's a quick start script to install home assistant after you've set up proxmox. I've been running it with no issues for months

peregus , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!

Automation grouping??? Alleluja!!! 🥳

Grass , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!

Does this let me limit what each family member can see to only what is theirs or I can trust them with? Currently I don't have anyone else set up at all because I couldn't prevent them from turning off the power strip for my 3d printers, or opening the garage without realizing it and getting my previous bike stolen.

My current setup is massively out of date too since the update failed one day and I haven't been able to complete the requirements for it to work, and I'm planning to move it to a different computer anyway, but I've been putting it off while also hoping for this functionality to show up.

Jakor ,

I’ve never dug into this personally but can’t you set certain dashboards to be admin only? That way you can hide those entities on a dashboard only you have access to.

I assume this wouldn’t prevent someone from going into the full list of entities in the settings menu though.

bbuez ,

Hey yes, add a person for each person you want to have access, only have yourself as admin that way they wont have direct access to entities.

Now you can use either conditional dashboards, or conditional cards to control what utilities are available to users. For example, my dashboards home screen shows general controls for everyone, but conditionally shows light controls to each user on the same page. I then have myself an admin dashboard with server controls, etc.

For the garage, that was an issue I sought to avoid, a simple automation that closes the garage if it has been opened for too long, and a toggle for that function as well as garage notifications seem to be plenty.

Only one incident where my jerry-rigged Shelly relay remote had the sensor switch miss, and the auto close - thinking the garage was open - opened the garage. I added an error state so that it would attempt to close again and notify if the garage is open after autoclose, which works if its blocked as well. All of this because MyQ doesnt provide local or API access lol

Edit: turns out I may be wrong about entity access, which is a bit of a shame, hopefully we can see that in a future update.

Osiris , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!

This sounds like it fixes some of my main complaints about HA. Cant wait to try it

just_another_person ,

Care to elaborate while I stop and listen?

cm0002 ,

Still no proper authentication like SAML, OIDC, SSO or even LDAP unfortunately :(

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

The Home Assistant developers rejected a pull request that added OpenID Connect support (https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/32926) and have not expressed any interest in it, so I don't think we're ever getting it. :/

solidgrue , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!

How do you edit or delete categories once you've created them?

To be sure, I'm using the companion mobile app and don't see an obvious Categories editor. I haven't explored the desktop UI fully for this question yet.

madelena ,
@madelena@lemmy.world avatar

In the Categories section of the Filter panel, you can find options next to each category for editing and deleting.

solidgrue ,

Ah! There it is! Thank you.

Still a bit broken on mobile, but they'll catch it up.

sabreW4K3 , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

The categories and labels are magnificent.

thehatfox OP ,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

It's a real step up for managing Home Assistant. I was using it earlier to find some devices to reconfigure and it's a lot faster. The xtra panels in the UI feel a little cramped on smaller screens though.

I wish they would implement a proper permissions system next, the lack of control is the other admin bugbear of mine with Home Assistant.

jeena , to homeassistant in Home Assistant 2024.4: Organize all the things!
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

I like home assistant but I feel I'm always so behind with my own instances everything feels very outdated how I have it. But I just have no time to modernize it.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

I think the beauty of home assistant is that if everything is working, why worry.

Some of the updates are great though. I'm quite new to home assistant so I'm eagerly always playing with the new stuff, but soon I'll just throw my Raspberry Pi in a dark corner and forget to update it for months at a time.

Tolookah ,

I went to try to add assistant support this weekend, my pi is not supported (64bit arch only), I very understand.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

I'm running it on my Raspberry Pi 5, which is Arm 64. Perhaps try via Docker?

Tolookah ,

Right, I'm on a 3b 32-bit install.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

There's definitely support for your device: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi

Tolookah ,

Thanks, I saw that, but I think I'm using the opportunity to upgrade to a nuc-like machine

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

Nice! Share what you get when you get it.

Tolookah ,

Currently leaning towards the Lenovo m710q or m910q, both under 150 at microcenter (6th Gen i5 6500t). It's overkill, but it's small. I have to put my hands on it before making the purchase though, make sure the refurb models they have the io I want

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

Just the other week, I asked for some advice on one of those for use as a low powered PC. Good choice.

eco_game ,

I can relate, with every update I'm like "Wow this is going to optimize my setup so much" and then I just don't change anything lol

thehatfox OP ,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

I always keep Home Assistant as up to date as possible. Home Assistant keeps improving a lot. Month to month each update goes fairly seamlessly if HA is kept up to date, but the further it falls behind the harder it is to catch back up. Recent optimisation improvements have also made the update process faster.

If you can make the time it's worth the effort. Even if you have to "start over" somewhat there is probably a lot you have learned since that you can use to improve your setup.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Yeah that's what I'm doing too. On top of that I have 3 instances, my own at home, the one at my parents house and then another one at their summer house.

just_another_person ,

Why don't you just stay in a version that does everything you need? That's sort of the point of a point release system.

jeena ,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

I don't want to do that because once there are new features you want, upgrading in a big bang is basically impossible because there are too many breaking changes. So it's better at least to fix small things all the time. Also on top of that security updates are very important too.

wander1236 , to homeassistant in HA removed Astetisk. What now?
@wander1236@sh.itjust.works avatar

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/110930.

It should still work until 2024.9.

Moonrise2473 , (edited )

Seems weird that according to telemetry only 25 people in the world were using that, while the GitHub repository linked in the other comment has 56 stars and 21 forks 75 issues and 200 pull requests. If it was true, those 25 users are the most passionate in the world.

Same if watching on the ha forums, lots of topics for something used only by 25 people in the world.

Could it be that, because asterisk is difficult to install, only pro users installed that, and pro users always disable telemetry?

Edit: changed metrics for GitHub, indeed stars and forks are pointless numbers, went to watch my GitHub account and saw that completely useless repositories of mine had stars or forks

wander1236 ,
@wander1236@sh.itjust.works avatar

Stars could be from people who used to use it and no longer do, or who planned to try it out but never got around to it.

GitHub forks are kind of a meaningless statistic in my experience. So many of them are from people accidentally forking the repo and just never deleting their fork, or from spam accounts that fork random repos to make PRs with random content.

johntash ,

Lots of people do have telemetry disabled. Kinda disappointing to see it being used as a reason for removing functionality without research first

peter ,
@peter@feddit.uk avatar

What other research can you do? You could go on the forum and ask who uses it but that's not going to be any more accurate

Kuinox ,

I'm a developer of an OSS project with 68 stars and I know nobody uses it. GitHub stars doesn't mean anything.

walden ,

That link has a period at the end, at least in Jerboa. Here's a non-period link. https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/110930

solidgrue ,

Im not familiar with the Asterisk integration ilself, but I'm generally familiar with HA and community addons to ask if this isn't that big a deal? If I'm interpreting the pull correctly, HA is dropping the native integration for a mailbox feature that only Asterisk uses, which technology itself is outdated. Looks to me like the Asterisk implementation itself is a HACS resource, and not part of the HA mainline code.

Could be the case the Asterisk community project maintainers will either update their code to live without the native feature, or adopt the deprecated code to maintain it as part of the community add-on.

The corpo-speak seems pretty straightforward to me, though: the asterisk-mbox integration code is unmaintained, outdated, or has fallen out of compliance with the prevailing API usage so it's planned for being removed from mainline. Happens frequently with legacy code in large projects.

I wouldn't bring out the pitchforks just yet, OP. Good chance the Asterisk repos will update with a fix or a workaround in the coming weeks to months

key ,

So OP is one of the only 25 people who used it?

yournamehere OP ,

thanks

doctorzeromd , to homeassistant in HA removed Astetisk. What now?

Is it the same integration that's here?

https://github.com/TECH7Fox/asterisk-hass-addons

yournamehere OP ,

yes.
in HA i have a warning that i will need to remove it from my yml and restart.

doctorzeromd ,

As somebody already said, it will continue to work for a few months and if the developers want to keep supporting it they can turn it into an HACS add-on

yournamehere OP ,

thank you

roofuskit ,

You can always fork it and bring it into compliance or make it a community addon for HACs.

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