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_Sprite , to Technology in Aptoide app store hits iOS in the European Union
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I remember using aptoide to pirate a DS emulator on my first tablet years ago. I got to play Ace Attorney like I wanted (RIP Emuparadise) but the battery never saw a temperature below fever levels until it died

entropicshart , to Technology in Aptoide app store hits iOS in the European Union

I am more excited that Apple is being forced to allow other browser engines on iOS.

In 2024 I should not be forced to browse ad riddled websites that risk seizures upon loading, and further redirecting you to more shit when you try to close it, on a $1000 handheld computer.

Give us a browser engine that supports proper extensions, not this shit that is as old as the original iPhone!

BinaryEnthusiast ,

Aren’t most browser engines insanely old though? I agree there should be better addon support for IOS, But the two most popular browser engines are Firefox and chrome, which released in 2004 and 2008 respectively. They have been updated extensively since then, but those browsers aren’t new either.

You can get some addons for safari, like I have an Adblock on there. It is very hit/miss though and should be better

entropicshart ,

I don’t mean that it’s been around for a long time, but the lack of innovation on it.

Plugins in browsers have been a crucial function for years and available on Android. The only reason they’re not on iOS is because Apple forces all browsers to use WebKit instead of Gecko/Blink/etc, like they do everywhere else.

helenslunch ,
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on a $1000 handheld computer.

Maybe just don't buy this expensive garbage?

misk , to Technology in Aptoide app store hits iOS in the European Union
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They will focus specifically on subscription based apps to finance Apple technology ransom fee so you know it's safe to ignore what's there for now.

themurphy ,

Pretty sure the Apple fee system was deemed illegal, no?

misk ,
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EU cogs move slow, that's why Apple drags this out in this way.

themurphy ,

At least they move in the right direction.

cerement , to Technology in Guide: How to install Google apps on Huawei phones
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everyone else trying to figure out how to deGoogle their phones …

mox ,

Yo dawg, I heard you like spyware...

ilmagico ,

The guide is suggesting to install microG, an open source reimplementation of Google services that even many "degooglers" use.

recapitated , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

12 years... F...

EmperorHenry , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple
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Yeah, like that lie they told for decades about how "mac can't get viruses!" they got sued in a class action lawsuit over that claim, which is why they don't EXPLICITLY say it anymore.

Or how apple can yoink anything you install off your apple devices whenever they want?

Skullgrid , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple
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Jobs was the fucking cracks. The reason why zoomers have no fucking idea where their files are on their computer are because of the shitty attitude instilled into iphones/ipods.

He started the entire fucking enshittification trend and everyone ate his asshole like peaches.

tapo ,

You can extend this argument to saying everyone should master the command line. They're all interfaces. There's no "right way" to use a computer.

Jobs turned the computer into a product used by everyday people who don't give a shit about how it works, and that's fine. That's empowering because it lowers the barrier to entry.

That said, we've been in a much worse "eternal September" since the iPhone shipped.

Skullgrid ,
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They’re all interfaces

My files are in a magic place is not a fucking interface.

parachute ,

Can you expand a bit more on this? What makes it not an interface?

I am an android and windows person (would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if my CAD worked on there) and pretty tech savvy, even run my own servers. So I hate the fact that things are getting so dumbed down but I can't understand why it's just an interface would be not true.

zalgotext ,

I'll take a swing at this one.

A good interface has well defined inputs and outputs. A lot of interactions with iOS/MacOS software/applications have decently defined inputs via their UIs, but finding the outputs of those UIs can be a Sysiphysian effort. Figuring out where those outputs are beyond the defaults like "downloads from a browser end up in the Downloads folder" or "documents saved in the Pages app end up in the Documents" folder is frequently non-trivial.

It ends up being that the easiest way to find a file is to just open the original app you created it in, and find it in it's history or whatever. To a non-technical person, this creates the impression that the only way to interact with those files is with the original app it was created in, which ends up limiting what people think they can do with their devices, and creates a bit of a walled garden effect.

So I suppose that the blanket statement of "it's not an interface" isn't completely fair. What is fair though, is to say that "it's a bad interface", if the average user can't readily find said interface's output.

parachute ,

I think I understand what you mean now, if it was an interface then it should be possible to use a separate but similar interface to access the output but here there is only one non-PITA way. Eg. If there was a competing galleries app on iOS it should be able to see all the photos. Is that roughly the thinking? Makes sense to me and thanks for taking the time to type that out.

zalgotext ,

Yup! I'm not the original commenter, so that's just my interpretation of the original comment you replied to. But it sounds like you get my drift

Skullgrid ,
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yep, zalgotext basically did it for me. One other thing is that when you try to access files on an ipod through a non apple computer, it still uses tree based file structures, but the individual files, names, and locations are all garbled (eg : your Rancid album track 3 is in the same folder as your rush 2112 overture, but the rest of those albums are fuck knows where).

I had a joke that the original iphone wasn't turing complete because you couldn't run programs on it not from the istore.

tapo ,

Your files are in a magic place, directories don't actually exist they're a hierarchy we developed to meet the traditional concepts of a 20th century office. Tags and searching are just as valid.

revisable677 ,

Though I agree with you partially there, I still think there should be options for users to access their data easily. Last time I tried getting my chat backups out of an iPhone was a nightmare

257m ,

Yes but under the hood, IOS is using a filesystem. Hiding helpful details is not the same as simply being a different way to use a computer. One actively makes the computer harder to use.

NegativeInf ,

I can remember where I put shit faster and more easily than I can remember arbitrary names, tags, or my own typos. But if you put all the documents in a fucking folder I can find that AND IT CAN STILL BE TAGGED AND SEACHED FOR. The problem comes from business environments using technology that isn't a fucking iPhone and then I'm having to teach a 25 year old how to use a USB drive. And that's not an exaggeration, I literally had to do that today.

EndHD ,

I agree. I had to explain to a younger family member today that when I say "open notepad", I meant the application that's been on every Windows version since they were born, not to Google "notepad"

Gave me a crisis that people know so little of what would have been considered basic computer usage a while back.

systemglitch ,

If it makes you feel better I gave my 16 year old daughter a laptop with a fresh Debian install and she's figuring out things on her own without asking for help. Customizing it and making it do what she wants.

I just thought she would watch YouTube videos on it and be content. Instead she's talking about the nuance of installing programs on it, and how different it is from Windows.

Not all hope is lost.

SkaveRat ,

https://xkcd.com/456/

There's an xkcd for everything

Careful, or she'll be running nixOS in a month or two

sheogorath ,

It really is like that, the average people will get so much dumber but the kids who are interested is going to get much much crazier than the older dudes simply because of the abundance of information when they started. I still remember using magazines for guides.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre ,

Such is the result of Fisher Price'ing their devices.

Lesrid , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

Wow is that really what the Apple campus looks like? That's hilarious. Like if Nintendo HQ was a big warp pipe.

Alexstarfire ,

Except the warp pipe would be cool.

cabron_offsets , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

Yeah bruh Tim Apple seems to be holding his own.

sturmblast , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

Starting? lol

esc27 , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

Apple managed to capture lightning in a bottle, twice. First by making a better Walkman, and then again by making that device a phone with internet access. They were able to leverage that success to revitalize their computer hardware business and act as a platform for selling accessories, and all of that made them very successful.

But the stock market doesn’t care about past success, it cares about growth, and without a major new, or buzz worthy product, investors might start to turn against Apple. Problem is, they have ridden the iPod horse about as far as it can go. They tried putting wheels on it, but that failed, and the jury is still out on whether tying one to your face will work out or not.

frezik ,

APPL is second only to MSFT by market cap. So far, the stock market doesn't care.

TranscendentalEmpire ,

Yeah, but investors really don't care about the price of a stock, they care about how much the price moves once they own it.

It's the inherent problem with publicly owned companies. Even if you perfected a mode of profit, unless you improve upon perfection next quarter you're in hot shit.

You can only squeeze so much profit out of any one gimmick, after that the only way to mimic growth is by cutting labour costs, and eventually diverting investment funding into profit for shareholders.

frezik ,

Not necessarily. Investors also care about dividends. Those tend to be the people who hold on long term. Blue chips, as a class of stock, are all about companies that don't make big moves in price and pay out in dividends. They're older companies that have built their product line, and while they still do R&D on new ones, they only do that to make sure they don't get left behind.

Veraxus ,

Yep. Doesn't matter how healthy or stable a company is... when infinite growth is no longer feasible, investors would rather pick the bones clean than let it be.

hitmyspot ,

Why does a company that has already achieved it's success need investment? When company potential is how we value society, this is an inevitable end result.

Simon , (edited )

It's almost like... endless growth is unsustainable.

Edit: Downvoted by a shareholder lol

Appoxo ,
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IMPOSSIBLE!?

Ultragigagigantic ,
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"What if we just doubled the price?" - some genius executive that never created a damn thing in their life

That only works for housing and healthcare.

stringere ,

You forgot groceries, mandatory insurance, and utilities...

14th_cylon ,

big part of apple's success is that it successfully establishes itself as a status symbol - it is for a lot of people what car was for generation of their parents and grandparents.

so there will definitely be a clientele for that two times expensive whatever. some people will buy it just to show others they can afford it, same reason why people were buying overpriced cars.

MyNamesNotRobert , (edited )

Idk, more and more people are switching to mac and ditching windows. If their m1 thing continues being successful they're going to have a more severe monopoly than Microsoft ever did. It's one thing to patch Microsoft's half ass attempts to embrace extend destroy Linux but that isn't going to work out as well anymore once all the mainstream stuff is quarantined to an entire different cpu architecture and computers that no longer use off the shelf parts.

Luckily the only software they really have right now that Linux doesn't is that s tier video editor and then no one wants to use their stupid Metal graphic acceleration so games are going to have a hard time taking off as well. Too bad most people think "command lines are too hard".

The common person is going to lose access to computers as we know them today if Apple wins. If it gets to the point where the only modem mainstream systems left are M1 macs, everything computer related is going to get 10x as expensive. $1000 for a potato ass MacBook Air is already obnoxious but when that's the only choice, that potato ass MacBook Air is going to cost $10k.

smolyeet ,

Idk if I agree with this. I feel like 1000 goes further for a Mac than 1000 on on an equivalent PC, least as far as user experience goes. Windows arm isn’t there yet as far as support from vendors goes. With apple everyone hopped on the train fast , it was a smooth transition for average workflows. It will be faster and/or more efficient. They certainly have their problems , mainly the base storage , and display limitations but at least they’re fixing the latter of the two.

Not everyone wants to navigate a computer with a terminal. Hell , apple silicon Mac’s have outperformed Mac’s that cost 3 times the amount. I think you overestimate the need of a more powerful laptop in that space. The real difference is that Mac has N AppStore and large enough dev base that unless it’s some obscure windows specific software or games , the app likely exists on Mac. Word , Spotify , adobe adobe apps
, he’ll even epic has software coming to Macs for hospitals.

If the price just gets so absurd , the common person will just use cheaper and or older alternatives. But it’s not like apple hasn’t been competing in the mid to low range for iPhones. M1 Mac’s are still excellent deals to buy 3 years later and eventually they can offer Macs at a lower price point. They aren’t stupid enough to isolate the common man when other options will always exist

TheBat ,
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People aren't ditching Windows. They're ditching non-Apple laptops that happen to have Windows.

Cause honestly laptop offerings are sucky one way or another these days.

vanderbilt , (edited )
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It's shocking how bad the competition is in the laptop space. There are good options, but none of them have the great battery life, great screen, performance, and good trackpad all in one device. The margins being so low probably don't help the situation. Developing for Windows native is meh edging on bad, so most apps these days are written in Electron or Qt and available on whatever other platform you use. The ship won't sink because of Windows, it'll sink because people aren't buying the hardware that has Windows.

Skullgrid ,
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by making that device a phone with internet access.

Fuck you WAP phones existed. Blackberries existed.

nova_ad_vitum ,

Apple made it better. There is innovation in execution (whether they "invented" things or not) and that is what Apple does. It's why Blackberries are things of the past.

SkaveRat ,

And they sucked ass by only half-assing the usability

grimacefry , (edited ) to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple
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  • Buffalox , (edited )

    Jobs’ vision was fundamentally to make technology accessible to the masses.

    Bullshit, maybe Woz had that, but Jobs? No way! His goal right from the Apple II was clearly to make money, and maximize it by controlling the tech instead of setting it free.

    Already with Macintosh it was a "walled garden", with many closed aspects to secure Apple had control. With iPhone it became even worse, and has NOTHING to do with making tech accessible, on the contrary. He made it easy because there's money in that, he didn't make it accessible, the price structure alone makes that an obviously false statement.

    Jobs had an eye for design, but to call it that he wanted to make it accessible, is like arguing a fashion designer makes expensive designer clothes to make it accessible to people.

    Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
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    The fact that people associate Apple's early history with Steve Jobs is sad. There were so many extremely talented people who did amazing work. Woz, Bill Atkinson, and Susan Kare are a lot more important. In a lot of ways Jobs just got in the way.

    Simon ,

    I can't see how that's ever arguable since Apple has only been about premium high-end products since Jobs took over. That's literally the opposite of Henry Ford.

    hollunder , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

    To be honest my old 2 gen iPad started showing cracks several years ago...

    parachute ,

    Do you mean your second generation iPad or your iPad that is 2 generations old?

    hollunder ,

    Well kinda both. Got it used from my brother and I think it was the second gen made. It's dead since a few years tho. The battery died.

    RavuAlHemio , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple

    Great choice of website:

    Independent journalism is made possible by advertising.

    That is the polar opposite of the truth.

    AMDIsOurLord ,

    NoteBookCheck is a legit website, what issue do you have with them? I always found their reviews and information and testing to be high quality

    This is like shitting on GamersNexus because they removed some shitty product in every video to make money

    Harbinger01173430 ,

    The dude who wrote the message you responded to is probably a Linux user and privacy weirdo or something.

    Railcar8095 ,

    This is Lemmy. EVERYONE is either a Linux user, a privacy weirdo or both.

    Source: I'm both

    Harbinger01173430 ,

    ...we need normal people on this platform...

    Railcar8095 ,

    Agreed. Lemmy shall be the tool to increase Linux adoption.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    The dude who wrote the message you responded to is probably a Linux user and privacy weirdo or something.

    I can understand the Linux part not being common.

    But to say privacy is a weird thing is really sad. The average person should go out of their way to be privacy-conscious. In the US, we got people getting arrested for miscarriage, people getting on lists for watching YouTube videos/, and companies now getting people's ID before they can visit a site.

    Not being privacy-conscious is just being stupid.

    Harbinger01173430 ,

    They should be preaching their privacy thingies to the people in real life, not on the internet 🙄 for maximum reach, like how the evangelists do.

    gamermanh ,
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    But to say privacy is a weird thing is really sad

    That's not what was said.

    They said "they're probably one of those privacy weirdos", which is different.

    I value privacy and am conscious of it, more so than the average user. I choose, willingly and knowingly, to use certain services that damage my privacy in exchange for their services.

    The "privacy weirdos" are the people who see that statement and go "well you shouldn't ever be using service x because it's not secure you stupid dipshit! Just use service y, it's FOSS and has half the features but it respects privacy so it's better in every way!"

    Dunno how the person got "I'm a privacy nut" from "ads aren't good for journalism" tho, that doesn't track

    Ultragigagigantic ,
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    Our fediverse comrade

    Harbinger01173430 ,

    Da!

    Appoxo ,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Neither of them.
    I appreciate more privacy but I will not limit or even chastize myself.

    Railcar8095 ,

    If neither, may I introduce you to our Lord savior Linus Torvalds?

    Ultragigagigantic ,
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    I showed up because of the IPO at that one website.

    Me, the laziest person ever, motivated to come here. Truly an accomplishment.

    Simon ,

    I mean, for some of the stuff I've seen here I wouldn't even necessarily disagree with a comment like this but the OP saying advertising violates journalistic integrity has literally nothing to do with that. That's just common sense.

    simple ,
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    So you think they should just make no money because you're mildly inconvenienced?

    hglman ,

    No. If you make money from ads your clients are the adversers and your readers are an asset you seek to capitalize. That is in opposition to journalistic integrity.

    Appoxo ,
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    And the servers run from exposure?

    14th_cylon ,

    no, they don't. you (the reader) have to pay for them - if you want to be the client, that is. otherwise you are the goods that is being sold.

    falkerie71 ,
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    somehow I doubt most people on here including you pay for online newsletters.

    14th_cylon ,

    i do care a lot about your doubts. do you have more of them? 🤣

    Simon ,

    In opposition to popular sentiment, good journalism actually does make money. It just doesn't make as much money. And bad journalism without advertising makes no money.

    Ultragigagigantic ,
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    I think corporations should be crushed so they are small enough to drown in a dirty used toilet.

    RavuAlHemio ,

    I’m not saying they aren’t allowed to show ads, but I am saying that once they do, they are no longer allowed to refer to themselves as independent.

    No company that wants to advertise on your website is stupid enough to sign away editorial control, i.e. once you agree to display their ads, you are no longer allowed to say anything bad about them. And even if they did, there’s still the looming risk that if you do, they are well within their rights to pull their ads and there goes your income.

    If you’re going to show ads, be honest to your readers about what that means.

    Appoxo ,
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    Either you pay for access like the good old newspaper by gatekeeping the page or run unrelated ads from google AdWords and get paid by people clicking on them.

    Ultragigagigantic ,
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    "People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

    You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

    Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

    You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs."

    – Banksy

    mlg , to Technology in Twelve years after the death of Steve Jobs, the cracks are starting to appear at Apple
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    Not like it matters because they're a silicon valley giant so even the next zero change iphone will sell morbillion units.

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