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CouncilOfFriends ,

And then the judge clapped and the Loch Ness Monster paid about tree fiddy

yamanii ,
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This is a thing in Brazil, as soon as you open up a business you receive random bills from people like OP, people that are starting out and have no experience do pay.

ICastFist ,
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It's also a crime here, though people rarely report it.

xantoxis ,

Anon hallucinates a nice daydream

euphoric_cat ,
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  • Korne127 ,
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    tell me

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  • dutchkimble ,

    Assuming we didn't do this, but won't the large company check the address belongs to the actual person before not sending us the replacement because we didn't do it anyway? Also won't they insist for the faulty unit, what other options will they accept? Asking for writing a book on hypothetical scenarios

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  • Blue_Morpho ,

    "won’t they insist for the faulty unit, what other options will they accept?"

    Every business I've dealt with always wants the faulty unit back before sending a replacement.

    Agent641 ,

    In Australia this is called speculative invoicing, and its illegal. A company I was working for was doing SI for support contracts, regardless if the client was active with us or not and regardless of they even owned or used the tech that we supported.

    My boss was just sending this shit out without telling the service department and without providing us a copy of the support contract and then we got angry calls from former clients and we didn't know why or what the support contract covered. Eventually I figured out what was going on, and when a call came in, I'd repeat the speil - the invoice is optional, it only covers X, if you dont have X then you dont need support for it, here's the phone number of the boss.

    Sure enough, when the boss started getting angry phone calls while he was off fishing and treating his business like a passive income, he was angry at me.

    He didnt fire me though, I eventually left and took a big chunk of his neglected legit clients.

    MadBob ,

    off fishing and treating his business like a passive income

    What a fucking waste. You scam your way into all this free time and you go and sit aimlessly by the water until a brief moment where you can torture a fish. What a man.

    recklessengagement ,

    We got a "bill" from a company like this that wanted ~300 bucks to "list your companies name on our website". That was it. You paid them, and you got added to the list of accountants that didn't read the fine print. Pretty clever, if obnoxious.

    kautau , (edited )

    This is common with domain registrations too. They will mail an unsuspecting company a request to pay for “continued domain protection” for a domain close to expiration, which means literally paying them to send another letter when the domain is up for renewal again. The don’t do anything with the domain, you just pay them to mail you letters when it’s close to expiring

    Daxtron2 ,

    This is genius, I should automate it

    frezik ,

    The whois data is usually anonymized these days. However, there are companies that forget to check that box.

    Spammers often deliberately make their messages full of spelling and grammatical errors because they want to target people who are just that naive. Might have a similar thing going on here.

    Piemanding ,

    I got those letters when I registered a domain. It was so annoying.

    kautau ,

    Nowadays any registrar worth their salt will provide free Whois protection for TLDs that support it, but it was absolutely a racket at the time

    DaddleDew ,

    Maybe the shitty accountants are just disgruntled employees who do it on purpose

    Zehzin ,
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    LufyCZ ,

    Think the difference there is that the invoices of the guy from the article were actually fake invoices for real things

    Voyajer ,
    @Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

    OP's real fake invoices vs the article's fake real invoices.

    Klear ,

    It's a greentext, which makes them fake real fake and gay invoices.

    Chronographs ,

    Actually not a greentext just a 4chan post (still not implying it should be believed)

    TranscendentalEmpire ,

    Still not advisable..... You receive an invoice after services are rendered, not beforehand. Presenting an invoice for services not previously agreed upon would still be fraud, and unless the company personally wrote you a check, it's either mail fraud or wire fraud.

    So you have similar/more legal risks as a bank robber, but you're doing it for petty cash?

    workerONE ,

    You should be able to send a letter that serves as a contract, and include an invoice to pay to start the contract. Then legally it would rely on the type of service you offer, but as far as invoicing before service starts that's not legally a problem. They used to mail out magazine subscription offers, you would mail in a check and then your subscription would start.

    TranscendentalEmpire ,

    You should be able to send a letter that serves as a contract, and include an invoice to pay to start the contract.

    Yeah, but including a letter clearly explaining a service contract isn't going to fool many accountants. And if it's not clearly stated in the contact letter what exactly the invoice is for, it's still fraud.

    If you're going to commit fraud, just don't do it by mail/wire. Federal prosecutors have a 95% conviction rate, and the maximum sentence for mail fraud is ten years longer than bank robbery.

    Riven ,
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    That's what my company does with our yearly contracts. Not a scam though.

    Mongostein ,

    Ok, so you make your service sending them the invoice and you’re all good

    MrJameGumb ,
    @MrJameGumb@lemmy.world avatar

    It's a great plan with one fatal flaw: I'd rather just pay the bill than have to deal with getting hauled in to small claims court

    EdibleFriend ,
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    I've never seen a fourchan post I wanted to be real more than this. Oh god this is beautiful.

    SpruceBringsteen ,

    I've never seen it actually spelled out fourchan.

    Just write forchan

    SoggyBread ,

    Forechan

    boredtortoise ,

    Foresckin

    Poiar ,

    Fårtjan

    name_NULL111653 ,

    Vórðsanr

    steal_your_face ,
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    Fortran

    THE_MASTERMIND ,

    Fortshan

    SirQuackTheDuck ,

    Better than those circumchanned Americans.

    EdibleFriend ,
    @EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

    Blame Google I use speech to text most of the time lol

    wander1236 ,
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    Surprised it made it one word

    EdibleFriend ,
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    Well they did remove 'do no evil'

    WraithGear ,
    @WraithGear@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t know why but that hit me a little harder than it should have.

    ComradePorkRoll ,

    Isn't that the thing Americans chop off of their babies' penises for no reason?

    Polyester6435 ,

    Fourchannel

    PhatInferno ,
    @PhatInferno@midwest.social avatar

    The 'chan

    KeenFlame ,

    This is just a scammer asshole in that case? It's the world's lowest scum, not fun for anyone except the thief that does this kind of shit. I mean, it is fine on megacorps of course as they are psychopath entities, but it would never work on those.

    crashoverride ,

    Any company that falls for this deserves it

    KeenFlame ,

    No not grandma's pie making for the homeless company and stuff like that. Autism

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