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unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Never really liked his channel but wasn't aware of this video until now. What a fuckwit. Has no idea what communism is but keeps saying it when he really means authoritarianism. Says that a gun is "great for children", I'm hoping he meant for children to use...

I don't understand why I need to buy a gun to deal with downstream problems where there is an upstream solution. The reasons he gave for owning any gun are really societal issues. Instead of encouraging everyone to have a private army, why not encourage people to vote for politicians who will fix the upstream problems

nul9o9 ,

I liked some of his content, but it got pretty weird thats for sure.

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I'm not sure either interpretation of "great for children" is super great.

Weapons of war are not fucking toys.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

I fear games like Fortnite being introduced to very young children might conflate "weapons of war" and "toys"

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Dad (a mountain Appalachian man who did own guns but always hated gun nut culture) always said it was better to use your brain than bullets. I wholly agree with your assessment that if we're at the point where we need guns, then we've already lost.

unionagainstdhmo ,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Exactly the problem with a lot of these gun nuts - they can't use their brains because they don't have one.

merthyr1831 ,

There are actually a few open source gun designs, namely designed to circumvent gun control measures by being built from off the shelf parts with limited machining.

The one I've seen most of is the FGC-9 that's being used by rebels in Myanmar to be used in raids against government troops, after which they can be replaced with scavenged conventional small arms.

Hildegarde ,

The gun's name is an initialism for "Fuck Gun Control", with the "9" referencing its 9mm cartridge.

They've got the best branding

Murdoc ,

"From the makers of the BFG-9000... the all new FGC-9 sidearm!"

ArcaneSlime ,

Actually it's less of a sidearm more of a pistol calibre carbine chambered in 9mm, and the dude that made it "mysteriously died" in german police custody so no more from him.

current ,

Apparently he actually died in his car 2 days after a fruitless police raid, allegedly of "heart attack".

ArcaneSlime ,

Huh TIL, thanks. Heard at the time he had been in custody, guess I heard wrong.

merthyr1831 ,

the dude that made it "mysteriously died" in german police custody so no more from him.

Not that it matters, there's a bunch of people I've seen working on rifle-caliber 3D printed weapons now.

Hell, I follow some folks on Twitter who were developing handmade anti tank launchers (which are actually legal for certain US States if they're registered with the govt lmao). Definitely not going to get glowied any time soon im sure.

ArcaneSlime ,

The main difference is JSTARK was German and was snitched on by an Englishman, who I'd bet is the guy who filmed that piece on him for Popular Front that slimy bastard. (Also turns out he died two days after the raid not in custody, my bad!)

All that is for sure legal stateside! (Well unless CA, NJ...)

phoenixz ,

I also use my software to regularly murder the crap out of hundreds of people.

Oh, wait, that is grand theft auto and battlefield, and neither are open source, what have I done?

Aux ,

Shame on you! Grab a rifle and storm your school today!

Shareni ,
ILikeBoobies ,

Get on Xonotic

Shareni ,

Wesnoth

Swarfega ,

I read the title before looking at the guy and he looks exactly like the sort of person who would write that title

moon ,

Having the right to have a mass killing device is never required.

fruitycoder ,

When everyone else lays down there arms too I'll lay down mine too.

moon ,

okay meal team 6, going to Walmart isn't a war zone so no need to roleplay

ArcaneSlime ,

Funny, the time I almost got stabbed was in a walmart parking lot, it's at least a little warzoney depending on locale. Glad you live in a nice neighborhood though!

(Before you don't look at unames I'm a different guy)

moon ,

That's pretty standard in retail. Some get smoke breaks, some get stab breaks. Walmart just goes above and beyond and loves to help their customers even on their breaks!

ArcaneSlime ,

Unfortunately I was better equipped to help him, he seemed to agree when he saw what I had under my coat, he decided to go help someone else instead.

fruitycoder ,

To prepare for peace one must prepare for war. I have no delusions that I am some secret spec ops action hero, its more that me and other citizens be8ng armed changed the calculus for people that would want to oppress us.

moon ,

This is a weird fantasy gun people like to imagine. There will never be a war like that, nor do they need to confiscate anything to control you. They already do through laws and your bank account. There's zero chances that gun nuts will suddenly rise up and start fighting the government.

fruitycoder ,

It happened in the Ukrainian revolution, the police were sweeping the streets beating people with batons, some protesters we fighting back with rubble, but when they managed to get the guns the police were using on the crowd things changed dramatically.

In my personal experience whether not a place had armed citizens changed how cautious police were in that area, they may push and fuck with people they thought they could but were more likely to be trying negotiate with people on more equal footing as them.

No doubt there are other methods of oppression then men with guns and batons marching in the streets and fighting those require different tools and tactics.

ArcaneSlime ,

I won't, so keep em. Even if we had impossibly utopian world peace, I still want to go to the range and IDPA.

some_guy ,

My software can kill you and is exploitable by maniacs, so I don't see why this is getting ridiculed. /s

ogmios ,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

They actually are open source, and there is indeed a lot of material out there to help people with everything they need to build their own. The only part that is illegal to make on your own is the part with a serial number on it, for tracking purposes.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

I feel the legality aspect is highly dependent on one’s location.

Renacles ,

Nono, everything is within the US.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

The only part that is illegal to make on your own is the part with a serial number on it, for tracking purposes.

Perhaps that is the case elsewhere, but to point out that in the US, it is legal on the Federal level to make your own complete firearm for personal use. Assuming no state specific laws prohibit it, it is by default legal. ATF FAQ page. If you are not an FFL holder, and are not going to sell the firearm it does not need any serial number. All NFA restrictions still apply to homemade firearms.

The practice of legally homemaking firearms pre-dates 3D printing, with 80% AR-15 lowers being a modern and widespread example.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

The only part that is illegal to make on your own is the part with a serial number on it

That's 100% incorrect (by federal law, can't speak to any specific states) and is most often the only part that is printed, for exactly that reason.

thantik ,

Technically, you're supposed to give it a serial number and register it with a local FFL. Giving it a serial number (or NOT giving it a serial number) on your own would run afoul of many new 'ghost gun' laws that have been put in place. This is obviously, dependent on location. At the US-federal level, so long as you don't plan on selling it I don't think it is required.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Technically, you're supposed to give it a serial number and register it with a local FFL.

Nope, not "technically" correct either.

thantik ,

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/ghost-gun-legality-by-state

Wrong again. I've provided a source with links to all applicable legislation on the subject matter on a per-state basis. These rules do exist in some jurisdictions.

helenslunch , (edited )
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Still wrong

They further require that dealers and manufacturers of ghost gun building blocks must be federally licensed.

The problem here is "ghost guns" is a nonsense word anti-gunners made up with no actual definition, much like "assault weapons". Most often it refers to simply guns without serial numbers, which the media and government use to manipulate the public into thinking a bunch of people are being murdered with 3D-printed firearms instead of firearms with the SN scratched off. It's far easier to simply buy one off the shelf at Academy or at your favorite local black market.

"Building blocks" are more commonly referred to as "80% lowers" and are not 3D-printed plastic, but blocks of CNC-machined aluminum. Yes, the White House is trying to make it illegal to own unregistered chunks of aluminum.

Further, 3D-printed lowers are manufactured by individuals, not sold by dealers or manufacturers.

HelixDab2 ,

It's kind of wild to realize that some states are trying to outlaw owning blocks of steel that have zero machining operations on them because benchtop CNC exists. I don't even know how they think that this is going to work; make every single machine and tool and die shop have an FFL in order to own a Bridgeport?

This is a fundamental problem with gun control; the tools that are used to make firearms--and to make ammunition components--are widely available, and have many uses outside of making firearms. Most people don't make their own guns because it's more expensive if that's all you're doing, unless that's your business.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I think what you and the other commenter are having friction with is that on your first comment declaring that it is "technically required" you did not specify that it was state by state, and the vagueness gave the impression it was a statement applying nationwide.

Now you are showing a link talking about state-by-state legislation, which is a more restricted and nuanced reframing of the original statement. Beyond that, your link seems to show 39 states do allow homemade firearms with no additional state laws, making that the majority. While declaring the rules one way or the other for the whole nation would be incorrect, saying that they are allowed is less incorrect since the majority of states do allow them.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

This may be true for some specific US states, but declaring it wholesale true in the US is wrong. From the ATF FAQ on homemade firearms:

You do not have to add a serial number or register the [privately manufactured firearm] if you are not engaged in the business of making firearms for livelihood or profit.

thantik ,

I didn't declare it wholesale true in the US.

If you weren't jumping on your replies like some addicted meth head, you'd notice that I added some additional clarification about 20 seconds after I initially posted. But I guess 20 seconds is too much for people to wait before they check their inbox.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I apologize for replying to what you wrote, and for not having future knowledge that you were going to edit your comment.

fruitycoder ,

If could in the future predict the future and comments accordingly that would be preferred thank you /s

GBU_28 ,

Super uncivil reply

vojel ,
@vojel@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What the fuck, how this can even be not a meme…

hperrin ,

Man, Distrotube is such a fuckin wacko.

baseless_discourse , (edited )

I support free software, but that doesn't mean dangerous offensive software shouldn't be regulated...

A currently viable virus should not be able to distributed freely without any regulation, even when it is licensed under GPL; the fact that viruses can be used for defensive purposes (hacking a hacker's laptop to get ransomware pass code, or hacking scammers to warn victims etc.) also won't change that.

It is the same way with lethal poison, just because it can be used in defensive ways, doesn't mean it should not be controlled.

sudneo ,

I went to look for the video and somehow was worse than I had imagined.

robocall OP , (edited )
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

I watched the video. He says that if you support FOSS you should support guns, but never once advocates for guns to be free.

He says the problem is that politics are tribal, and people are simply in their corner, cheering for their teams - without acknowledging that there are Americans that want different levels of gun control, and there are reasons that people want gun control outside of tribal politics, and there are Republicans/conservatives/gun enthusiasts that have nuanced opinions, and support things like red flag laws and certain gun control policies.

shield_gengar ,
@shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works avatar

He's a troll trump supporter, which is all anyone needs to know. If there are 9 regular people at a table and a nazi sits down, and all that.

ArcaneSlime ,

Some are kinda, yeah. The AR-15 is for sure, and most 3d printed lowers would be, and iirc gen 3 glocks (I think, because that's what all the 80% and 3d print glock lowers are), and I think colt SAA by now, but many designs are still owned by the original company.

GBU_28 ,

Well everyone here loves piracy so ride this goalpost with me, it's sustainable mass transit

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not an expert in 3D designing, but it seems to me that the AR-15 is a popular 3D print rifle from a practical perspective more than anything else.

The lower isn’t under extreme stresses, it can be thickened and reenforced without impeding function, and it snaps in modularly to factory made uppers. It helps a lot that the AR-15 parts market is diverse and easily accessed.

ArcaneSlime ,

There's a reason that I listed ARs and 3d printed lowers separately. ARs themselves are basically open source, nobody "owns" the design, so say Hodge, Noveske, Colt, SOLGW, Radian, etc, can all produce lowers etc, MIM industries can produce all the lpk bits, but so can NBS etc, cerro forge and Brass Aluminum Forge Co can both make identical "milspec" uppers, the only thing that is really "trademarked" on any of it is the branding, or an advancement like Geissele's maritime bolt catch (which similar knock offs were produced immediately, anyway.) If you started making and selling say a2 parts (except lowers, but that's just because you need a licence to manufacture for sale) tomorrow nobody could stop you.

HelixDab2 ,

Interestingly, Glock is another one that there's strong 3D printed support for. It's likely because Glock was designed to be polymer, and there's very strong aftermarket support for them, so you can print the serialized part and make it work as a firearm with no real problems.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I was just thinking out loud more about why you don’t see printed AKs or at least not nearly as much. The AR-15 layout just seems practical for printing.

ArcaneSlime ,

Yeah the Plastikov does exist but is definitely less popular and a bit more involved. They also have printable CETMEs now though too lol. Basically any cheap parts kit someone is probably working on a solution if one doesn't exist, and they're doing cool shit like the 3011.

ARs and Glocks are also some of the most popular purchased firearms (like through an FFL), so I'm not surprised they'd be the most printed, they're basically the Toyota Camry of guns, easy to work on, dependable, and last long.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

A printed CETME is too adventurous for my blood.

ArcaneSlime ,

Understandable lol, they do work though! Ivan made the file.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

They are, much in the same way as 3D printers themselves.

Check out DEFCAD.

Classy ,

DEFCAD

That's an interesting guitar tuning

bi_tux ,
@bi_tux@lemmy.world avatar

forget defcad, cant even use it outside of 'murica, all designs are pretty much uploaded to odysee

Vytle ,

This is really bad advice. DEFCAD is a paid service that requires a fucking FFL to download files, but this is not made clear at the time of purchase. The gatalog is a much better resource for anyone new to the scene.
Can't stop the signal.

bi_tux ,
@bi_tux@lemmy.world avatar

https://archive.org/details/practicalscrapmetalsmallarmsvol.1-22

here are some FOSS designs that don't require a 3d printer, most 3d models are on odyssee and happy gun smithing to you

EDIT: also completly agree with dt on this one

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