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Tikiporch ,

No, it works under the faucet. You're just impatient because it didn't turn on after 1ms, so you move your hand closer and it turns on so you think it's nearsighted.

LazaroFilm OP ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Incorrect. It detects motion. waving my hands under the spout doesn’t do anything no matter how long. Waving the hand 1.5 in further makes it work only while I shake my hands. It stops immediately after I love my hands. I need to have one hand further activating the sensor while I rinse the other then swap.

Drummyralf ,

That is one hell of a gaslight.

HubertManne ,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

I have seen something like this a lot. Many more that work fine but but they certainly don't seem to be at the five 9's or two nines or maybe even one nine. maybe one nine.

Grimy ,

five 9's or two nines or maybe even one nine. maybe one nine.

This is the first time I hear this expression, what does it mean?

quindraco ,

It means HubertManne had a stroke while typing.

dhork ,

"Five Nines" typically refers to something that works 99.999% of the time, which still allows for 1 screw-up out of 100,000.

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shalafi ,

I learned it working telecom. For example, if you wish to offer 911 service, your service has to be operational 99.999% of the time.

It's more casually used to mean a service or operation is insanely reliable.

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HubertManne , (edited )
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

yes as dhork mentions its related to a concept of 6sigma which is an airline/telephony thing about things that must not fail. My little quip is suggesting they work like 90% of the time which is not great.

meowMix2525 ,

Finally learned what DFSS actually means rather than just a breakdown pf the fucking acronym lol

baggachipz ,

I fucking hate motion-sensing faucets so much. We can edit the human genome, but are unable to make a motion sensor that actually fucking works?! Fuck outta here.

I actually prefer the old-school “push-down and have limited time” type at this point.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Why not both? Automatically sense when to start your limited time.

Korne127 ,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Isn't that how every automatically sensing faucet works?

darkdemize ,

I think typically they only turn on when they actively detect something near the sensor. Once they no longer detect the object, they shut off.

Tetsuo , (edited )

I don't think so.

If they only relied on the sensor it would constantly turn on and off which is something I have never seen on that kind of faucets.
I think there is always a delay before shutting down but sometimes that delay is set so low that it feels like you need to constantly activate the sensor.

Edit: clarification: What I meant is that if you just move once your hand in front of the sensor it should remain ON longer than just the time your hand was detected. I have never seen a sensor that literally activates only to the millisecond when something is moving. Even just to prevent false activation for half a second you kind of need a delay in there. If not you could have a 100ms activation that doesn't even have the time to let the water out by opening the faucet and you create unnecessary wear on the valve system. My point being it never really makes sense in engineering to have a button or sensor direct output used. Usually you have mechanisms to prevent "bouncing" and so on.
But I'm no plumber so it is just assumptions.

LazaroFilm OP ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

This one does that, it stays on only when I move my hands.

BearOfaTime ,

Which is exactly what I see all the time.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

The sensors can be calibrated so only objects within a certain range set it off.

LazaroFilm OP ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how this one works. If I stop rubbing my hands the water stops. It detects motion, not proximity.

Tolookah ,

I'm on team Foot pedals.

Duamerthrax ,

I just want a foot pedal to press. Public toilets should also have those just for hygienic reasons.

dingus ,

I'm not sure if this is ADA compliant. It might be the reason why we don't see these very often. I had one of these at work though.

Duamerthrax ,

I can only see wheelchairs being an issue, but you need special toilets and sinks for that anyway. Any foot pedal should be able to be activated with a crutch or prosthetic.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

ADA compliancy is such a BS hurdle sometimes.

"Hey we made this improvement that will help 99.99% of all people!"

"What about the remaining 0.01%?"

"Well, no, unfortunately it won't work for those edge cases"

"Ewww.... Well it's not allowed then. If a blind man in a wheelchair with a service dog can't use it, then no one can!"

Albbi ,

I really miss these hand washing stations we had in elementary school.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/607/032/a1e.jpg

variants ,

Wait that's a pee station at the concert venue

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

You guessed it

Here is a metal

Tetsuo ,

Let's just hope it's not both.

Everythingispenguins ,

Why not? Sound much more effective if it was both.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

You can wash your hands in someone’s pee and save water

meowMix2525 ,

Bonus points for eye contact

Grass ,

These were in several of the trades buildings in my post secondary. often stocked with fast orange and sunlight industrial.

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Holy shit that memory just hit me like a sack of bricks

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

I've actually encountered a properly designed one once in my life. The sensor was in the faucet spout instead of in the base.

where_am_i ,

You have correctly identified that it's not a lack of technological advancement that is holding our society back.

Now go solve social sciences, economics, psychology, and neuroscience. Come back and we'll talk about how to design a world where nobody happens to install a motion sensor with a wrong range.

baggachipz ,

no u

technomad ,

So that you can wash your wrists/arms?

Lol

LazaroFilm OP ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Ah! I see so it was user error all along. I was supposed to wash my elbows! /s

intensely_human ,

You don’t wash your elbows?

LazaroFilm OP ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Only on odd days.

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