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HobbitFoot ,

4K came out in 2012 and 8K just isn't that popular, in part due to content issues but also people's eyesight. If you don't need a new TV now, why would you buy an upgrade?

guywithoutaname ,

TVs are also a product that seems to last, at least on my experience.

jol ,

Sorry, your TV OS is no longer supported. All your apps will stop working tomorrow. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

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urda ,
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Smart people don’t use smart TVs.

Smart people get dumb panels and connect the steaming box / computer of their choice.

JWBananas ,
@JWBananas@lemmy.world avatar

Smart person here.

The Roku that I purchased 6 years ago just bricked itself until I agreed to forced arbitration. This, of course, has nothing to do with the data breach they just announced.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. You shouldn't have to trust that some third party software built into your TV won't abuse your trust and shut everything down until you do what it's owners want.

I've got an external Roku and if it starts being a dick, I can just unplug it and toss it in the trash and I still have a working TV.

jol ,

Smart people with money perhaps. Not everyone can shell out several times more money to pay for privacy...

Dariusmiles2123 ,

I don’t agree with this as it sounds a bit elitist.

Some people just don’t want to buy another device and use more electricity to watch a movie.

But I know what you mean.

guywithoutaname ,

Most smart TVs have a dumb mode. As long as you can plug in anything you want you should be fine.

bus_factor ,

I bought a 65" TV in 2013. It's good enough for me. I don't need 4k at home. It got zapped after 9 years, but there were tons of power supply boards on eBay for $40 each. Turns out a lot of people break the display and sell the other parts.

Dariusmiles2123 ,

And it should stay that way. I don’t want another product with planned obsolescence.

They could only try to end your TV by not supporting its apps because of its age, but luckily you can just plug a computer or a console on it to get all the apps you need.

Still, for now, I enjoy using my TV apps with an alternate launcher like Flauncher instead of the normal Android one.

JackFrostNCola ,

Exactly what im thinking.

Is it just that we have in the last few years reached the threshold for large TVs to have come down in price and up in quality for them to be worth the purchase - but also the incentive to get a new tv to have a bigger/higher quality picture isnt worth the upgrade (or just your satisfied with the product you have).
And then factoring in that practically worldwide inflation and cost of living is out of control and people sure can make do without a fancy TV when instead they can have food and pay their rent.

Next article "is streaming dead? We keep putting up prices and consumers are dropping subscriptions!"

michael_palmer ,

Yesterday I was in an electronics store and saw a 65" 8K TV and a 65" 4K TV. The difference in image clarity is almost imperceptible even if you get up close. Maybe 8K will be useful for huge TVs like 85" or more.

corsicanguppy ,

You say I need to get my wife to spend her yearly bonus on an 85" 8k TV ... for science?

I'll do it. It'll be hard to pitch that but dammit it's for science.

mPony ,

I'm pretty sure that PEOPLE ALREADY OWN A TV and probably can't afford to replace it.
I have no intention of replacing mine.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Well they aren't alive especially when my TV asked me to sign this no lawsuit BS

Chocrates ,

I have Jellyfin stream old sitcom reruns almost all day while I work. I just don't need to upgrade all that often.

werefreeatlast ,

Yes. We never watch. The kids prefer the iPads .... Amazon fires, but don't tell them...

GreatDong3000 ,

I haven't had TV at home for over 7 years now. Never miss it. I thought most peoole would do the same but surprised to see everyone still cares about watching TV broadcasts for some reason. The internet is much better.

tacosplease ,

I use mine for console gaming and YouTube. My kids stream Netflix.

someguy3 ,

Um TVs are not limited to tv broadcasts. Netflix, gaming, YouTube, etc.

GreatDong3000 ,

Ight, been a long time I haven't played console games so I forgot about those. Otherwise everything else I do on my laptop or phone just fine.

someguy3 ,

Hmm watch a movie on a 6" screen or 60" screen...

Kolanaki ,
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I have technically been watching movies recently on 2 tiny screens. They just happen to be right in front of my eyes, in a device strapped to my head.

BigTrout75 ,

I've never seen my son scrolling tv channels. Tv to him it just a large tablet.

glitch1985 ,

Or a portal for YouTube

Bishma ,
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Based on this dip, what do we think the industry will try to push on us to get us to upgrade? Are we see them start to push 8k content or 3D again or "smarter" tv's?

bus_factor ,

You just know it's going to be some stupid AI shit.

PoliticallyIncorrect ,
@PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world avatar

I hope.

0x0 ,

I'll keep my dumb TVs and monitors over a spysmart tv anytime.
Can't wait for them to roll out pay-to-use-tv next.

MyNamesNotRobert ,

Especially be sure to avoid anything with ACR (automatic content recognition). If it detects you're watching content from an unapproved source, it will bug you to watch it on that approved source such as a streaming service. It's just a software update, or a congress bill away from reporting anyone who watches pirated content on their TV. So just beware.

solrize ,

It's not just the technology. Why buy a TV when the subscriptions cost a fortune and the shows are crap? We have the Internet now, and watch less TV than before.

DrCake ,

Has there really been a killer must-have feature from TVs in the last couple of years? If yours is still working is there a need to buy another?

garretble ,
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For gaming probably HDMI 2.1 for higher frame rates, VRR, and/or 40fps with ray tracing and whatnot.

But in general…not really. I just got a new tv for these features plus it having a brighter oled panel than my last one. But at this point I imagine I’ll have this tv for years and years.

warm ,

For gaming you are better off with a proper monitor.

garretble ,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

Not if I want to play on a giant screen in my living room on my couch with proper, nice surround sound.

warm ,

And most TVs will work just fine for that.

garretble ,
@garretble@lemmy.world avatar

I wasn’t arguing most TVs weren’t ok for that.

But as an answer for if there were any “killer features” in TVs for the last few years, better inputs and panel refresh rates are about the best new things outside of brighter OLEDs.

warm ,

I was playing devil's advocate to that, implying they are not killer features. TV gaming is generally consoles, which are all 60fps in 99% of cases anyway.

TVs with actual new panels or features are far too expensive for people to consider, when their current ones already do the job.

Telodzrum ,

OLED, highly-localized dimming, and HDR10

The thing is, all those features are locked behind units that cost several thousand dollars. So, they're never going to see large volumes of sales or widespread adoption until they trickle into the sub-$1k and sub-$300 price points.

stealth_cookies ,

QD-OLED just came into the market in the past couple years and is definitely worth some hype for someone like me that was hanging onto an old plasma, but in general TV's have been excellent for ages, if you already have an OLED or higher end TV with HDR you probably don't need to upgrade for a long time.

spyd3r ,
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If you've got disposable income and use the latest tech devices as a status symbol, absolutely.

If you're going the projector route, I'd say definitely. New laser projectors and screen tech is waaaaaay beyond what it used to be.

If you're a gamer (or using a TV as a PC monitor) I'd say yes, the tech here has advanced quite a bit, and 4K gaming looks really good if your hardware can support it.

If you've got a home theater setup, and are a movie buff, I'd say maybe, depending on how big of screen you want, how much money you want to spend, and how satisfied you are with your current gear. For me I don't think the latest tech improvements justify the thousands of dollars of new gear I'd have to re-buy just to get 4K/HDR and ATMOS support when most of the movies I watch don't even have good 5.1 tracks and are still on 480i or 1080p based media because they're so old.

If you're a casual viewer of movies, streaming content, and TV shows, absolutely not. Any LED 1080p capable TV that isn't trash tier is fine.

CrowAirbrush ,

I bought a tv like 8 years ago, the day the warranty went it got issues.

Some annoying bullshit (according to google) has to do with magnets and they are all visible now, it looks like shit but i really don't give a damn as i rarely care for what is on as long as it's making sound i don't need to hear the neighbours.

All i could think was: it still works, fuck this company i'm keeping it.

paraphrand ,

This is incomprehensible. Magnets? Exposed? The TV picture looks like shit but it works?

someguy3 ,

Market's saturated. Why do analysts not understand this? Once you hit a certain size you don't get much more from a new tv.

Hexagon ,

B-b-but... line must go up!

systemglitch ,

I just don't want to own a smart tv, so I'll stick with what I have.

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