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Are you prepared for the ramifications of windows 10 EoL?

Next year Windows 10 goes End of Life. Microsoft will undoubtedly push windows 11 hard, but a lot of machines won’t support it leading to a few economic points of interest:

The demand for new machines will be high, driving up cost.

The supply of unsupported machines will be high, driving down the used market.

Are you all ready?

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lmao, I've been ready since 7 reached the theoretical end of life.

Air gap 7, use Linux on everything else.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Windows 7 will maybe work for a while.

There's going to be a point where new Windows software won't run on Windows 7, though.

Freezing the OS is one thing, but freezing the application library is another.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Heh, I only keep it for a limited use case. I have backups of the software, so I'm good until win7 won't run on new hardware.

No need for any updates when what I use works perfectly for me.

metaStatic ,

music producer?

I've heard of some buying bulk macbooks and cloning their drives because knowing your workflow is the most important thing.

Atari Teenage Riot's music is still produced on an Atari ST.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nah, just particular about how my media is played. I have my media box set up exactly how I like it, and don't like the available programs on Linux. Every year or two I go and retry things, or try new options though, in case things get to where I want them

derpgon ,

Air-gaping applications has become way harder when everyone introduced the cloud-based bullshit. You either lose half the features (due to not being online) or the whole application due to needing to upgrade the license/new OS where the old app doesn't work, or other bullshit.

And, sadly, that's where most people are. Convert half the application to cloud and then deprecate the features in offline mode. And yet it's cheaper to just do these calculations offline.

Contramuffin ,

I've switched to W11 on my main rig, since Linux doesn't have the sort of compatibility that I can rely on for my work. I installed explorer patcher to restore W10 start menu, task bar, and right click menu. I combed through the settings to deactivate all the data collection settings.

On my laptop, I dual boot W11 and KDE Neon.

It's the best that I can do given the circumstances

Viking_Hippie ,

I'm seriously considering making Tiny11 my daily driver on my gaming desktop.

I'm about to start a prolonged test run on my new to me secondhand laptop as soon as my ADHD brain lets me remember at an opportune time to actually do it 😄

victorz ,

Do you have a to-do list somewhere, analog or digital? Definitely helps me remember all the shit I need to remember.

I pick something every day to do off of it. Probably add more than 7 things during the week though. 🫣

Viking_Hippie ,

Keeping lists has not really worked for me to the point that I'm actively averse to them, especially in paper form.

In stead I make do with alarms and making sure that my days are hardly ever busy so that I and my very basic system don't get overwhelmed lol

aStonedSanta ,

Same here. I have to set an alert/notification. I like to set it three times 5 mins apart. Usually works. Lol

Viking_Hippie ,

I usually set one 24h before the thing, one 1h before I have to leave for the thing, and sometimes an extra one 2h before lol

aStonedSanta ,

Haha glad we have both found something that works for us. I might steal that 24hr one. Could spur me to just do it then you miss all the shots you don’t take or whatever eh? 🙏

Viking_Hippie ,

Oh shit, I forgot to mention the most important one: the "just in time to slowly get ready and still have a couple of minutes to stand at the bus stop wondering if the damn thing is EVER coming" alarm 😄

moon ,

There are people out there still using Windows XP. Not everyone will jump because Microsoft is trying to force their hand

cybersandwich ,

If by people you mean botnets, then yes.

Crafter72 ,
@Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

The only thing that hold me back full-time linux daily driving due to workplace uses M$ suites (Office, Teams, Outlook and so on) and CAD program (Freecad pita for me, haven't tried Ondsel addon).

I don't think they would just abandon the support overnight (unless they're being greedy af and want to drive the failed "Windows 11" adoption very fast). The fact that they only make "sudo" utility only for Windows 11 is disguting (though you can do it yourself on windows 10 too), pretty sure they will keep giving security patches just like XP and 7 being legacy system.

Brkdncr OP ,

They dropped support for Exchange server even though the following months a vuln came out. I suspect people are going to be seeing a lot of notices from Microsoft.

Strayce ,

Not really, but I have 18 months to migrate all my shit away from there. I've already moved a lot of my critical stuff to FOSS software running under win10 and I'm more than passing familiar with Linux. Shouldn't be a massive deal.

Fake4000 ,

Honestly, once a Microsoft is goes end of life, it becomes a great offline machine to run older software and games.

Guaranteed not to be pissed around with Microsoft updates.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes I am.

I hope for the cheap unsupported to-be-Linux machines.

5C5C5C ,

Sounds like there are going to be a lot of machines running a fresh install of Linux next year. Microsoft really does ♥️ Linux.

Lmaydev ,

Tbf they genuinely do.

They've invested heavily in Linux and are one of its major contributors. I think they were in the top 5 of contributors.

They realised years ago the Linux desktop isn't going to take off with the average user. So there's no need to compete directly.

Azure actually runs on their own custom distribution of Linux.

emptiestplace ,

From the bottom of my tortured soul: fuck Windows.

MakePorkGreatAgain ,

use win11 at work, dont like it much. when win10 hits EoL I'll dither for a year or so before switching over to mint or some other distro full time

Veraxus ,

Debian + KDE Plasma is all you need. Saying goodbye to Microsoft and their predatory, horrible software is an absolute win.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Corporations (the only people who actually care about their OS being in support) upgrade their machines every few years so they've already done that. Home users don't know what that means and won't care. The remaining 2% have already installed linux.

MudMan ,
@MudMan@fedia.io avatar

This.

Official OS support is a security concern. The machine I have in use at home that is running Win10 is doing so on deliberately old hardware for preservation and it will continue to do so indefinitely, just like my XP machine. I'm even a bit surprised myself by how few Win10 computers I have, considering I haven't once upgraded one to Win11 on purpose. I thik I may have an older laptop that is still on Win10 and can happily stay there, since it doesn't see much use.

But hey, corporate office PCs ARE likely to hit the used market in higher numbers at that point, and those are often a good deal for cheap DIY builds. It's still a good date to track if you're into that sort of thing.

Gormadt ,
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Honestly I'm a bit excited for the amount of systems about to hit the used market

They're just screaming for Linux

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