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Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I'm waiting for some FOSS developers to hack this thing and run custom firmware on it. Or someone who creates their own "Car Thing" using an Arduino or Raspberry Pi.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Remember kids, never place buttons for a service on a remote if you don't know if the remote will last longer than said service :)

JIMMERZ ,
@JIMMERZ@lemm.ee avatar

Spotify is an evil company. Bad for artists, bad for consumers. I’m glad to have quit using their service.

Opisek ,

What do you use instead?

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Local SSD

Corkyskog ,

If you care about artists not being screwed over, Tidal is usually the first recommendation.

nakura ,
@nakura@lemmy.world avatar

I use a combo of streaming stuff I bought on Bandcamp with their app and playing local files. In addition to albums and EPs, I have bought a lot of singles on Bandcamp. I put all the singles in a giant constantly growing playlist on the Bandcamp app and then set it to random shuffle. It takes more effort than using something like Spotify, but I personally like it a lot more because it's only full of music I know I like and I feel satisfied because I supported the artists I like.

JIMMERZ ,
@JIMMERZ@lemm.ee avatar

Currently using a combination of Plexamp, WinAmp, Bandcamp and Apple Music.

bitwolf ,

Plex/Plexamp/synfonium + Tidal + QoBuz + Bandcamp

Fedizen ,

imo they should refund everyone who bought one and collect all the devices to recycle.

phoneymouse ,

This was predictable. Everyone has a phone. Phones have CarPlay and Android Auto.

The fact that they named it “Car Thing” made it clear that it didn’t have much of a valid use and that they didn’t really have a lot of confidence in it.

It’s annoying that they even created it in the first place. It’s more annoying that they now predictably are not supporting it anymore. It should be illegal.

Aggravationstation , (edited )

Holy shit: "The company is recommending that customers do a factory reset on the product and find some way of responsibly recycling the hardware."

So they're not offering to dispose of it, or even giving any advice on how to dispose of it responsibly. Just suggesting
people should probably do that.

If companies are allowed to behave this way we're all screwed. Any efforts by the average person to avert the environmental damage caused by the waste they produce is completely futile and any politician who claims that they're doing their best to try to hold companies accountable is a liar.

harsh3466 ,

I hate to break it to you but we’re way past screwed already.

cmbabul ,

We passed screwed like 25 years ago

monkeyslikebananas2 ,

We need new laws y’all. All these companies should be forced to collect all their e-waste as part of their products lifecycle.

If a company produces any product and the company has a market cap over $1billion, then they should be responsible for collecting and recycling all their trash.

laurelraven ,

I don't know how accurate this is or if it's still true but I remember hearing like twenty years ago that Germany has laws like that, including dealing with waste packaging, with the result that companies suddenly found ways to use more sustainable packaging

alphapuggle ,

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/8b1f2ac4-b243-4d52-a673-f86d04c72c65.png

Even Google products have a longer lifespan 😖

I've since moved on to Tidal. Bought it at $30 when root mods started to be developed, but never really went anywhere.

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  • 2021-04-13: Interested in car thing
  • 2022-10-18: order placed after discounted to $30
  • 2022-10-21: shipped
  • 2024-05-23: Discontinue notice
  • 2024-12-09: Service discontinued
AllNewTypeFace ,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

They should at least release data sheets and any bootloader signing keys, allowing people to reuse the devices for other purposes. If you could replace the firmware, I’m sure you could use it for controlling your home automation setup or displaying the weather/news/train times/other info (or possibly other tasks depending on what’s in the SoC). Now, alas, it’s just e-waste.

AdamEatsAss ,

That doesn't help make money. The engineers are needed elsewhere.

Ajen ,

Datasheets are copyrighted by the silicon manufacturer, not the product manufacturer, and usually covered by an NDA. Spotify probably couldn't release them even if they wanted to.

Aux ,

Since that was their first attempt at hardware, I bet they don't have access and/or rights to share shit, as everything is owned by OEM.

bizzle ,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

I bought this for my old Cadillac that only had a tape deck and it was amazing (with a Bluetooth cassette). I haven't used it since I got rid of that old Cadillac about two years ago now. Pretty limited use case but it still sucks to kill shit for no reason.

Drusenija ,

I didn't know Bluetooth cassettes were a thing, although if I think about it then of course they are. What's the sound quality like?

bizzle ,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

The sound is honestly not bad, better and less hassle than an FM transmitter. There are 3.5 mm ones too that work pretty well but I had a few of them and they fail where the cable meets the cassette. I passed it on to a friend with a whole house cassette system when I got my new Cadillac

Bazz ,

These fuckers disabled car mode in the android app to make you buy one of those and now they're killing it. I used car mode in my car and the moment it stopped working was when I cancelled my subscription.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

When did they kill car mode on the app? I've been subscribed for years even before the Car Thing and I always have car mode on even outside of my car.

tigerjerusalem ,

Mine doesn't have Car mode anymore, it stopped working a couple of weeks ago.

variants ,

There's a setting to disable it, it always annoyed me so I disabled it auto going to car mode when it connected to Bluetooth

talentedkiwi ,

Seems they want to force you to use their "Car Thing" voice assistant. Probably to listen into your conversations....

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el_abuelo ,

What did car mode do? Was it when it switched to big old buttons? Mine used to do that until I got Android Auto in my new car...so up until about a year ago

Bazz ,

Yep exactly that. My car back then didn't have Android Auto and this was the only way to skip tracks while keeping my eyes on the road.

Edit: looks like they brought it back later:
https://www.xda-developers.com/spotify-car-mode-testing/

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

So stop being their customer.

Bazz ,

I did 4 years ago

aquafunk ,
@aquafunk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

downvotes are not to express disagreement!

so many comments here about adding regulations and "this should be illegal" and, yes, those may be a valid way to curb this behavior

but customers willing to leave a company for bad behavior, customers wary of new products without asdurances they wont just become useless, non-reusable e-waste could also effectively curb this behavior

just because you want to outsource all of your product and company research to a law or regulation, and want to be able to blindly buy products and just hope the company doesn't make bad choices in every regard but quartly profits doesn't mean it is the only effective check & balance

MagicPterodactyl ,

I downvoted the comment above because in the original comment they already mentioned that they are no longer subscribed to Spotify, which makes the "stop being a customer" comment exceedingly stupid and pointless.

aquafunk ,
@aquafunk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

whoops. maybe I should read the entire thing next time

MagicPterodactyl ,

All good, happens to everyone now and then. And I agree that some people on Lemmy are a little downvote happy.

diabeetusman ,

I liked using mine at my desk at work. Phone in pocket, connected to headphones. Car thing on desk, controlling music

VerseAndVermin ,

The bastards barely started selling it a few years ago. I feel like some responsibility should exist. It isn't a company that is going under, so it shouldn't be able to just casually kill the devices tied-service it only recently sold.

Nommer ,

Agreed. Anything sold with the intention of being used with a subscription service should have 10 years of support.

Rinox ,

Anything discontinued should stop being protected by copyright law, and the manufacturer should be forced to give every piece of information they have on that product.

applepie ,

Stop feeding these parasites.

Either buy physical or self host!

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Both. Buy physical media, rip the audio files and put them on your selfhosted music server (e.g. Navidrome). Or pirate the music and buy some merch to compensate the artists.

penquin , (edited )
@penquin@lemm.ee avatar

Xmanager is calling everyone's name. Thank me later 😁

Edit: really? I get downvoted for helping? 😂
I love you all, too!

TychoQuad ,

What does Xmanager do? I read the site, but nowhere does it seem to describe the product

filister ,
Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

If it is what I think it is then they are intentionally being vague about what the app does so they don't draw attention from the service that it works with. If you put that in context with the article then the answer to your question is clear.

penquin ,
@penquin@lemm.ee avatar

No ads Spotify.

KingThrillgore ,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

What it do

penquin ,
@penquin@lemm.ee avatar

Spotify premium for free. No ads, you can skip as many times as you want, you can pick songs and it works with Android Auto.

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