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  • thefartographer ,

    The worst part about keeping out the Mexicans is that white people don't know how to make proper billionaire carnitas.

    AlteredStateBlob , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class
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    And he is right. Class warfare has been raging for decades as a few old white sacks of shit accumulated soft power like nobodies business, accumulating vast amounts of money in the process of controlling all of the media. The internet was a threat for a hot second until the capitalist "Elite" consolidated that into a few companies controlling everything as well.

    The fediverse is so crucially important, people really don't realize it.

    WashedOver , (edited )
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    I'm reminded of this. I still think the Maga culture are a bunch of ignorant turds but it does fit the narrative.

    https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/1cf89f9f-3b10-4330-9601-6a90d920dc24.jpeg

    pthaloblue ,

    This is good stuff! I like the Rupert Murdoch one as well:

    https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/dd333318-13fd-457c-a6c0-7b0af8430342.jpeg

    lobut ,

    For some reason I always thought that was Warren Buffett and I was like that doesn't really seem like his message but Rupert Murdoch makes so much sense now.

    assplode , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class

    This guy fucks

    Blackout , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class
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    Shawn Fain is a good person. He cares about his members and for all working people. I always found it strange how nearly all companies are anti worker and hope the momentum keeps growing.

    littlebluespark , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class
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    Fucking AND‽

    blazeknave ,

    What has made you happy this week?

    littlebluespark ,
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    Jon Stewart coming back to help keep the national IQ above water.

    pingveno ,

    interrobang‽

    modifier , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class

    Based.

    Facebones , to unions in UAW Chief Says Billionaires—Not Migrants—Are Real Threat to Working Class

    Also UAW - backs Biden

    blazeknave ,

    Also UAW - understands tyrannical fascism isn't wonderful for the 99% and that the world order as we know it would end, all the while supporting down ballot candidates

    And I grew up in a union household before I got a degree in academic bullshit talking points about these very topics. Don't act like you give a shit about working people, if you're espousing philosophy to encourage actions whose consequences are GOP exec branch.

    Facebones ,

    Sorry I don't buy into voting for slightly less insane fascism over insane fascism.

    Y'all keep blaming us for not voting for democrats but democrats can't run a non-fascist option, making sure if one gains steam in the party they kneecap the fuck out of them to run this milquetoast mid-right bullshit.

    Zoboomafoo ,
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    Public Service Announcement:

    Part of the current Republican strategy is to accuse Democrats of being fascists in an attempt to make the word meaningless.

    Facebones , (edited )

    Public Service Announcement

    Calling anybody left of Biden undercover Republicans and ignoring faschie moves by dems is why Democrats can't win a gdamn thing against Nazis 2: The Naziing

    Of course, that's the point - Dems will take literal nazis over bucking their corporate overlords by backing a living wage, healthcare, and wealth taxes.

    blazeknave ,

    They're not literal Nazis. They're running against them however.

    Btw, notice you're losing traction with this bullshit on here last couple weeks with the shock of Gaza subsiding?

    Facebones , (edited )

    That's fine go ahead and call leftists useless babies, I'll see you in November when you claim these useless babies handed Trump the election instead of dems for pissing on us. 😉

    It's quite telling how far right you really are with how you treat Gaza as some political gatcha and not a fucking genocide.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Kids are still in cages and democrats are supporting the genocide in Palestine, yes Democrats are fascist

    "We have to ignore reality because it helps the opposition to acknowledge it" sure is some rhetoric alright.

    blazeknave ,

    Same
    Except this isn't a slight difference. Cute you gamble people's real lives with your intellectual bullshit

    Facebones ,

    Cute you think I give a fuck as yall play "3 steps to fascism instead of 5" and think you saved the world.

    The funny part is yall claim to be the big hero harbingers of freedom but if somebody is an inch left of mid right Biden yall are just as fascist as they are.

    Hell, yall don't even TRY to combat Republicans because they're your precious status quo. The only real threat to you is change for the better. Yeah Trump is a dictator whatever but single payer healthcare FUCK NO we'll take the dictator!

    blazeknave ,

    I don't claim anything. I don't care what an Internet stranger feels about me. I care about there being a future.

    I don't want trans kids to die, like my friend's younger sister who couldn't get access to legit medical care and had to buy street drugs.

    I don't want black people murdered by cops given carte blanche to go even further than now. They're promising us this world.

    Fwiw, if your argument is that I should expect more intelligence and open mindedness from Republicans than you, it might be time to check in with yourself and take stock.

    And Gaza is a place where families and children live and are being genocided. There is no logic statement that starts there and ends with we're better off with Trump, other than you proving a point or focusing on blame instead of solutions.

    You live in ideas. I live in the world.

    I'm honestly listening, what's your solution?

    Churbleyimyam , to Interesting Global News in 'Everyone in the world needs to see this': An Israeli army drone pursued four unarmed youth civilians attempting to reach their destroyed homes and killed them with missiles

    I could never understand why my dad hated Israel so much. Now it's my turn!

    cynar ,

    Just remember there are 4 groups involved, not 2. You've got the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people. You also have Hamas and the Zionist dominated Israeli government.

    As far as I am concerned, 90% of the blame falls on the Zionists. They have constantly broken agreements and goaded the Palestinian people. This led to the rise of Hamas, it was the only group willing to really stand up to the Israeli government.

    The Israeli Zionists are working hard to conflate issues with them with issues with Israel in general and antisemitism in general. Don't play into their hands on that.

    grue ,

    Five groups: don't forget the British/UN, who fucked up the handling of Mandatory Palestine in the first place.

    Frankly, I don't think partitioning the Jews and Muslims into separate states was ever going to work and the British should've forced them to deal with each other in a single secular state instead.

    Dkarma ,

    British should have put Israel in Germany

    Grandwolf319 ,

    I still don’t understand this.

    “We fucked so we are gonna give you someone else’s land”

    turkishdelight , to Interesting Global News in 'Everyone in the world needs to see this': An Israeli army drone pursued four unarmed youth civilians attempting to reach their destroyed homes and killed them with missiles

    Israel is comitting genocide

    GolfNovemberUniform , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security
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    Well TikTok is not just bad for privacy but also for mental health and everything else you can possibly think about so probably the ban isn't actually that bad

    shreddy_scientist OP , (edited )
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    So Meta, Twitter, Snapchat and all the others who've redefined what data collection looks like and keep folks self centered is fine? The only reason the US is throwing this fit is because they can't access the collected data like they can with US based data brokers, I mean social media. The key aspect of this ban revolves around freedom of speach more than anything else.

    GolfNovemberUniform ,
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    Of course but still TikTok is not a good thing imo

    Ciel ,
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    I agree, but this is a little off topic imo

    GolfNovemberUniform ,
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    Can't agree tbh

    charonn0 ,
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    No, of course it's not fine.

    But if it's not fine for domestic social media apps to do it, then it's even worse for a foreign adversary to do it. Right?

    jkrtn ,

    It is the same worse. Billionaires do not have an allegiance to the well-being of any nation's citizens. What is a foreign state going to brainwash us with that could possibly be worse than the existing gamer-to-far-right-radical pipeline?

    charonn0 ,
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    They could use their advertising platform to manipulate US public opinion and elections. And, again, this isn't to say it's fine for domestic companies to do this. But that's no argument against this law. In fact, I daresay the "gamer-to-far-right-radical pipeline" you identify is an example of this.

    jkrtn ,

    I don't think I would argue against this law, IDK. It's just a slap in the face to see they recognize how dangerous the thing is.

    We always knew they would do nothing to legislate misinformation, bigotry, and electioneering on the US-based platforms. But now we know for a fact that they understand these platforms are weaponized against the public.

    dessalines ,
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    Far, far worse for your own country to have that data. If you live in the US for example, facebook can and does forward your messages about getting an abortion to law enforcement if you live in one of the no-abortion states. That mother and daughter both have charges now.

    Facebones , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security

    A federal tiktok ban is a desperate attempt to keep young people from discussing Joes pet genocide where they can't be censored by the us govt.

    shortwavesurfer ,

    Except even if they ban TikTok, that won't work. Because there's always the fediverse and nostr. If somebody wants to talk about something on social media, they will talk about it, and they will talk about it on services that cannot and or will not ban them. So good luck with that.

    xnx ,
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    The fediverse has less than 10M users. Tiktok has a billion. It doesnt compare. Its like saying we should allow banning newspapers or radio because people will still share information over phone calls

    shortwavesurfer ,

    Well, the TikTok users will just have to create fediverse accounts then won't they?

    xnx ,
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    No they wont theyll go to instagram reels since it already is a tiktok clone on an app they already use and already has an algorithm and an infrastructure and is easy to use. Theyll just be fed alt right and anti vax propaganda now instead of all the leftist in depth videos with sources on tiktok that consistently go viral

    Facebones ,

    This. People who believe the reasoning behind this need to understand that the same arguments were made last year and the idea was laughed at.

    What's different is Biden took on another proxy war on the side of genocide and tiktok is the only platform they can't prevent using the word "genocide"

    charonn0 ,
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    Which Tittok users has the US government censored?

    Facebones ,

    Somebody needs to work on their reading comprehension 🤔

    charonn0 ,
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    What do you mean?

    davel ,
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    When you run out of evidence, there’s always insults.

    Facebones ,

    Please point to me where I said tiktok users were being censored. 🤔 Learn to read.

    davel ,
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    Good point: I didn’t click upthread to see the beginning of the conversation.

    Facebones ,

    I appreciate you. I rescind my snark lol

    charonn0 ,
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    This part:

    a desperate attempt to keep young people from discussing Joes pet genocide where they can’t be censored by the us govt.

    suggests that users are being censored by the US government. Doesn't it?

    Outtatime , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security
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    Funny to see a Chinese company talking about "constitutional rights".

    Fidel_Cashflow ,
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    charonn0 , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security
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    “If lawmakers want to rein in the harms of social-media platforms, targeting just one under the guise of national security ignores an entire industry predicated on surveillance capitalism. Like all popular platforms — including those that Meta and Google own — TikTok collects far too much user data. But banning a single platform will not address the privacy problem that’s rotting the core of the entire tech industry.

    If domestic social media is collecting dangerous amounts of personal info about Americans, then foreign social media under who are subject to the laws of adversarial nation-states should be seriously concerning.

    The matter of domestic social media will have to be addressed by a completely different law because it cannot be addressed by a law similar to this new one. People who bring up domestic social media in discussions of this law are completely missing the point.

    gassayping ,

    From what I have seen, most people who object to a federal tiktok ban oppose it because they do not want the US government to censor the internet. I think privacy is brought up as a justification of the ban, and so opponents of the ban argue that it is selective to only focus on the app that is controlled by an adversarial country. I see the ban as addressing a symptom of weak privacy laws instead of addressing the root issue/cause. If privacy were actually taken serious by our government and not enforced selectively, then objections would be a lot less.

    charonn0 ,
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    I've seen that too. But they're mistaken. "Censoring the internet" is not what this law does. That's hyperbole not based on any reasonable interpretation of the actual law.

    Don't misunderstand me; this is not a good law. Nobody should be happy about it. But it is prudent, wise and perhaps even necessary. Refusing to acknowledge this while ignoring that actual 1st amendment concerns that this law will be challenged on does not help your argument.

    possiblylinux127 , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security
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    I might get on Ticktok here soon

    yogthos , to Privacy in A Federal TikTok Ban is a 'Misguided Detour' from Doing What’s Needed to Protect People’s Privacy and Safeguard National Security
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    Let's face it, the goal was never privacy or security. The killer clowns in charge of US regime are simply upset that there's a popular social media platform they don't control. This is about bullying China into selling this platform to US oligarchs. It's sad and pathetic, and it's not going to happen.

    t7tis ,

    China chill? The legitimate concern is that China is controlling the way certain messages are pushed ("the algorithms") to control topics that they have an interest in. I.e. pushing misinformation to drive support for Trump or Biden, as an example. That is not free speech or privacy, that is malicious interference and the the fear of the US doing this is the sole reason China has already banned similar US apps in China.
    That is also the reason they would rather be banned than to "give up the algorithms" (they certainly won't allow anyone to see how they push misinformation).

    yogthos ,
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    LMFAO

    TheAnonymouseJoker ,

    One party scares you dumb people into believing Russia interferes with your elections, the other scares you into thinking China interferes. Meanwhile, all the interference is going on within USA by white house and Congress terrorists.

    The reasons China banned US platforms is not the same as ones US is using to do vice versa.

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