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Ibaudia ,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

I'm really glad DaVinci Resolve exists to fill the void of a proper video editor too, Kdenlive just ain't it for me.

OR3X ,

Unfortunately the free version on Linux doesn't support H.264/H.265 and even the paid version doesn't support AAC so using Resolve requires you to transcode if you're using any normal consumer camera.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

doesn't support AAC

Use OPUS. Better and free.

nossaquesapao ,

The point was probably that if your equipment or sources use aac, you will need to transcode it, losing quality in the process. We don't always control our media sources and the formats they use.

OR3X ,

That's it exactly. Most consumer camera gear uses H.264/H.265 for video and AAC for audio in an MP4 container and the free version of Davinci Resolve just doesn't support that on Linux. (But does on Windows)

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

If it even doesn't support import and export in those formats, you can try externally decode audio and video and store in lossless format. FLAC for audio and something like FFV1 for video.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Since you are cutting video in pieces, applying filters and all the fun stuff, you are transcoding it anyway.

nossaquesapao ,

Yes, but then you would be transcoding an already transcoded video, potentially making the losses apparent. It would be better to just transcode once at the exporting process.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

It would be better to just transcode once at the exporting process.

Lossy encoding only happens once in both cases.

How direct import-export works: input file -> lossy format decompressor of editor -> filters -> lossy format compressor of editor -> output

How external codecs work: input -> external lossy format decompressor -> intermediate representation(lossless codec, can be just storing raw frames) -> IR decoder of editor -> filters -> IR encoder of editor -> external lossy format compressor -> output

Both options have only one lossy step - lossy encoder. Or technically two - also filters, but this is editor's intention.

nossaquesapao ,

Oh, I get it now, you mean using a lossless format as intermediate. Well, it would work but still it would be better if they didn't require this extra work on linux.

VirtualOdour ,

I love kden, very logical ui and love that it can do anything. What is it about DaVinci that appeals?

Ibaudia ,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Both work well, but DaVinci is better with color grading, audio post-production, visual effects, collaboration, and format support, just to name a few. It's a professional product made for professionals.

toaster ,
@toaster@slrpnk.net avatar

I've had the same experience too. Last I checked, Kdenlive doesn't have GPU rendering either. DaVinci resolve slaps though. And you can get a paid copy. Get outta here with that subscription nonsense, Adobe.

NaoPb ,

I am wondering how many people give up because their exact program isn't on there.

I get having to use Adobe software if you are an industry professional, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people who don't want to change because qbittorrent is not the same as utorrent. Or peazip is different than 7zip.

ZILtoid1991 ,

I'm somewhat of a creator myself and I mostly use creative software that has Linux versions (will move to Linux once Win 10's support expires and/or I somehow get enough money for a new PC), and they're legit better than Adobe software for my usecase. Photoshop is nearly unusable for digital painting (it's more of a photo-editing software with some drawing capabilities), Krita is pretty good, and my only pet peewee was that some of the brush compositing modes had confusing names and were hidden deep inside the menu, but then I found "greater", which can somewhat mimic the behavior of the default CSP brushes.

Also can someone recommend me a guitar amp modeller (preferably an open-source one), that is available on Linux, so I won't suffer from both the demo of Guitar Rig came with my Arturia Minifuse, or with trying to get one running in Wine with all their complicated copy protection schemes?

dustyData ,

Both qbittorrent and 7zip are FOSS projects that are perfectly available on Linux. There's actually very few software packages that aren't also on Linux, but they have a strong pull. Like AutoCad, Photoshop, video editors, DAWs, etc. Is specialized niche software, not everyday software that usually stop people. Also, they are unfamiliar with a workflow to do certain things on Linux's DEs.

NaoPb ,

I haven't seen utorrent on linux or 7zip with the gui integration like it has in windows. That was my example.

ruse8145 ,

sometimes the alternatives are even ok!

lemann ,

I'm probably an outlier lol, I installed the Windows version of 7zip (via wine) alongside the native Linux version just to have a GUI for setting the compression parameters if I'm creating a new archive from the file manager

Garry ,

Is fractional scaling still ass in Linux? I tried manjaro, elementary os, and Linux Mint a couple of years ago and that bugged me the most.

AVincentInSpace , (edited )

I'm currently using Plasma Wayland on Arch with the 1080p monitor built into my laptop and an external 4K monitor right next to it at 175%, and it works flawlessly. When a window is half on one monitor and half on the other it actually looks how it's supposed to. I can drag a window back and forth between the monitors and watch it rescale itself to run at that monitor's native resolution. Some apps, you don't even see the transition. The current scale is passed through to the applications, so text looks nice and sharp.

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  • AVincentInSpace ,

    What DE/WM do you use? Works great for me on Plasma.

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    To be fair, no one has

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  • lastweakness ,

    Plasma 6.1 will release soon with some further improvements. But Plasma 6 with Wayland basically solved all my issues already. My setup is fractional scaling with "Apply scaling themselves" for Legacy Applications (X11) and Adaptive sync set to Automatic. Works better than my Windows setup so far

    lauha ,

    I am on Manjaro plasma 6 with AMD gpu and it works without a hitch. Single 32 inch 4k monitor over displayport

    WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

    wayland: No its good X11: probs same as it was b4

    lastweakness ,

    Fractional Scaling on Plasma's Wayland session specifically is good now. GNOME on Wayland forces blurry scaling on every Xwayland app with no way to opt out.

    WeLoveCastingSpellz ,

    yea I am on plasma wayland shit works like a dream, nvidia btw

    lastweakness ,

    Yep, it's perfect. It's one of the reasons i stick with Plasma

    mystuffdoesntwork ,

    My personal grievances are using a laptop with ubuntu. No wireless casting of display to tv, no good smart phone as a mouse/keyboard control, the screen is sometimes sideways for no reason.

    But Linux and stuff is interesting still. I'm just not ready for it as a daily driver.

    toaster ,
    @toaster@slrpnk.net avatar

    KDE connect is pretty great right now. I use it as a remote all the time and even wirelessly transfer files between devicss.

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    KDE connecting infuriates the hell out of me. It's so close to being good. The features aren't at parity between the different platforms. It is absolutely awful at finding and pairing your phone. I have three different networks I connect to on a regular basis. I don't want to run static IPs on every network nor do all the clients support static IP. If you do use static IPs you better only need that one because it can't choose from a list. Wanted to scan a different subnet than you're on for your mobile device tough luck. I want to use it, I have it installed. I've said it IGMP hints. It's just not written well.

    All that said, if you have an ISP bog standard router and one network that plays nice with it, it definitely works as a keyboard and mouse remote...

    lastweakness ,

    All that said, if you have an ISP bog standard router and one network that plays nice with it, it definitely works as a keyboard and mouse remote...

    Agree with what you said before this, but thankfully, this is the majority use case

    shapis ,
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    I can forgive the lack of support. That comes with time and adoption.

    What makes it bad for me is how buggy every single DE is.

    ipkpjersi ,

    Have you tried Xfce? Usually it's pretty damn stable and bug-free in my experience (outside of one time I found a bug which had a perfect workaround anyway) in my past 7 years of using it.

    shapis ,
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    I have yes.

    Hyphlosion ,
    @Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

    Please tell that’s pronounced as X-Face.

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    It is now

    Lobreeze ,

    Plasma 6 is pretty OK so far. I'm using it every day.

    On my laptop though haven't used it much on full desktop.

    lordgoose ,

    Yup, Plasma 6 has been pretty great. Had to fix a couple of issues with Nvidia but it's been incredibly smooth.

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    It depends on what you are using. For me Fedora and Linux Mint are stable.

    shapis ,
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    It does not depend on what you're using. They're all buggy.

    Hexarei ,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    Give examples or get out

    shapis ,
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    Do you want a link to a bugtracker or what.

    Hexarei ,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    Nah, I wanna hear about bugs that have affected you that you can confirm are bugs :-)

    shapis ,
    @shapis@lemmy.ml avatar

    Nah, I wanna hear about bugs that have affected you that you can confirm are bugs :-)

    I'm glad you asked. 5 seconds ago gnome froze and sent me back into the login screen and closed all the apps I had open. Ask me again in 20 seconds and I'm sure something else will be broken as well.

    toaster ,
    @toaster@slrpnk.net avatar

    To be fair Windows had something like one bug per line of code in the mid 2010s. But there isn't the transparency of a public bugtracker. And good luck shouting into the void if you ever find one.

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    Then don't use it I guess

    epat ,

    Idk, I installed fedora 40 some time ago, and many things were broken out of the box. In that regard windows seems a bit more friendly to a new user

    z00s ,

    But they layer so many unwanted services and bloatware on top that it makes it hard to use. Being forced to be online to log in and forced use of OneDrive confuses new users just as much

    Gestrid ,

    Being forced to be online to log in and forced use of OneDrive confuses new users just as much

    You're not forced to use either of those, IIRC. Just set it up without connecting to the internet or without signing in.

    z00s ,

    Not any more

    dustyData ,

    No, there are no facilities for installing W11 offline or without a MS account anymore. MS removed those.

    TdotMatrix ,

    Can still use the "Shift + F10 and type OOBE/BYPASSNRO" option. A non-online method is still necessary for corporate environments that use Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) or other tools to image computers in bulk. See more details here:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/door-slammed-on-last-remaining-easy-windows-11-local-account-setup-workaround

    dustyData ,

    But god forbid someone ever has to open a Linux terminal.

    z00s ,

    I don't think you RC

    Gestrid ,

    The last time I had to setup a Windows profile (late last year on my then-new laptop), that was the case. Has that changed?

    Aux ,

    Why would you skip online login? It protects your laptop from being stolen, it syncs settings between devices, etc. Do you skip online logins for Android and iOS phones too? Of course you don't!

    ruse8145 ,

    yes, I do

    Nisaea ,
    @Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    "Online login protects your laptop from being stolen" is the most unhinged broken logic I've read in a while ngl

    Aux ,

    Are you trolling? Or completely ignorant?

    ruse8145 ,

    It sounds like you've read about but not used windows for a while tbh. The going online thing is true, but its not exactly confusing. Not sure what you mean by onedrive, I uninstalled it years ago.

    lastweakness ,

    I think you haven't installed (not used) windows in a while if you don't understand what he means by the forced onedrive

    ruse8145 ,

    It's my daily on 3 of 6 machines, 2 are installs from the last year

    lastweakness ,

    I installed Windows on a device yesterday. I had to switch to the command prompt and type in "OOBE\BYPASSNRO" in order to just not connect it to the internet and skip the Microsoft sign in prompt. And that seems to work for the most part. Sending diagnostic data is still required and not optional but ah well.

    A few days ago on another friend's setup, he didn't know that this option existed (who does really), so he signed up for a Microsoft account, logged in and his Documents and other folders were automatically getting synced to OneDrive. Now, for you and me, we understand that just uninstalling OneDrive should fix that or even just disable that feature itself. But this is opt-out and not opt-in. And he doesn't really understand it's getting synced, he simply sees that there's oddly increased data usage. This is the kind of person who will have recall enabled without ever realising it exists or even using it, but will still have it as a potential security issue waiting to happen on his setup.

    It's all the opt-ins that Microsoft does. Everything defaults to "yes, do that worst thing possible". And you and me will probably switch it off, but we're not the average person. The average person doesn't understand or care.

    wanderingmagus ,

    Linux Mint and Zorin OS work out of the box for most users. Usually the most complicated part is just the installation process (which can be an absolute pain if the starting system has Intel RST, Secure Boot and Fast Boot all enabled). Of course, more advanced users always can run the risk of breaking something (I accidentally broke my system irreparably at one point when I did a dumb and formatted my Swap for some reason and had to reinstall) but that's also true of Windows.

    Alborlin ,

    Okay, zorin os , not complicated part is not true.
    On any Linux 1., try to find where is program main executable is 2. Put that at startup, so thatbsoftwre starts at login 3. Connect HDD and ensure that it's available in ALL programs , without touching terminal.
    These things are trivial in windows.
    Linux or the v n zonrin works out of box if you just want to surf Internet.

    abbotsbury ,
    @abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

    Most desktops have a graphical startup editor

    wanderingmagus ,

    Isn't surfing the web the main use case for a large portion of the PC/Laptop user base? Pretty sure for wide swaths of people, "executable", "startup program" and "HDD" have no meaning. Not saying that's "right" or "wrong", just that that's my observation. You could make the argument that they might as well switch to Chromebook, and in fact, many do.

    For intermediate users, there's a graphical startup program menu for selecting startup apps, at least in Mint Cinnamon. Usually programs for me won't be able to access my HDD only if I did an even more advanced thing and made a docker instance without permissions - other than that, I've been able to connect programs like Steam (Flatpack) to my external HDD without issue. But maybe that's just Mint, idk.

    wallmenis ,

    I use windows on one of my computers just in case some friend wants to play some invasive anti-cheat game...

    Dudewitbow ,

    as a person who has it installed and has an OLED monitor, am not pictured. Of the few things why I haven't bothered connecting my laptop to my monitor ever yet, though it happened recently for KDE plasma

    ArmokGoB ,

    Not all games with anti cheat work on Linux.

    far_university1990 ,

    Not all games with anti cheat kernel level spyware work on Linux.

    ftfy

    urska OP , (edited )

    Go complain to the developer of those games, they run on Linux. The devs don't want to enable it. Dunno why you'd give money to people who don't care about you

    Lucidlethargy ,
    @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Wait... There's no HDR support? Is that true?

    HDR is more important than high frame rates in many games, assuming you have a good monitor that supports it. Seriously, it's amazing and extremely underrated.

    Bandicoot_Academic ,

    The meme is kinda outdated. You can get HDR since KDE Plasma 6

    NateNate60 ,

    Do game support it? Last I heard it didn't work on any games

    jonne ,

    Valve did some work to support it in steam deck, it's going to work its way upstream hopefully.

    Lucidlethargy ,
    @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So it's the answer "no" right now?

    jonne ,

    Probably depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Probably works in some distros with certain repos, but won't work out of the box everywhere.

    ayaya ,
    @ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

    It works in Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 for me. Haven't tried anything else.

    Bandicoot_Academic ,

    I think games running through proton and wine support it.

    Lucidlethargy ,
    @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

    So it feels like these are all extra layers. I haven't used Wine in years, but it was very frustrating the last time I tried it.

    By comparison (don't crucify the messenger), Windows supports it by default. This is one of the many reasons why I still game on Windows. In general, games just work. You click install and then play and you're up and running in just a few minutes.

    ...I'll see myself out.

    Hexarei ,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    Running games through Proton is as simple as clicking install and then play on Steam. You might need to enable Steam Play or such but I haven't had setup or config troubles with games in years now

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    Which came out less than a year ago and is the first desktop to support it.

    onion ,

    Barely anybody has a good HDR monitor tho

    ayaya ,
    @ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

    Yeah there are like 5 monitors with full array local dimming, most being $500+ except for that one AOC. And OLEDs are still $700+ and have burn-in after a year of desktop use.

    Lucidlethargy ,
    @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I mean, I don't have to say there are more than five, right? We all know this is hyperbole?

    I just typed it into Amazon and the cheapest one is $290. It doesn't have full array dimming, but neither does the one use. The one I use looks incredible compared to non-hdr.

    ayaya , (edited )
    @ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

    Yes it's an exaggeration but it's not far off. The one for $290 is the aforementioned AOC.

    This isn't a perfect list but pcpartpicker only has 15 monitors with HDR1000 or higher with one being a duplicate so it's actually 14. If you remove the HDR filters there's 773 monitors.

    That means only 14 out of 773 monitors support HDR properly. And that doesn't even mean they're good, just that they support it.

    And oops I should have specified 27 inches or under, that is my bad. 27 inches is what I was shopping for recently. Personally I actually prefer 24 inches but they pretty much stopped making good 24 inch ones.

    Honytawk ,

    You'd be surprised

    MonkderDritte ,

    TVs do.

    Lucidlethargy ,
    @Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I accidentally got one because I needed a good one for creative work. When I turned this on... Holy shit guys, it's insane.

    I have an HDR TV that is garbage, too. But my monitor using HDR makes games look absolutely beautiful. This was 5 years ago, too... I bet they get so much better now.

    possiblylinux127 ,
    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

    Come back in a year or two

    Or alternatively run SteamOS

    Strawberry ,

    I've beeb gaming in HDR for years, that is definitely a deal breaker for me. Shocked honestly that with OLED monitors blowing up, linux still doesn't support HDR?

    arefx ,

    It's maddening. Somehow valve figured out how to get it to work in steam os in gaming mode but it's still MIA in the desktop

    lemann ,

    Steam deck is the only linux device that does AFAIK, via their in-house compositor Gamescope.

    It's on GitHub, but I have a feeling some of the HDR specfics that would be needed for an open source linux implementation could be at the ransom of some standards body, like 4K 120fps support on AMD graphics cards under Linux

    azvasKvklenko ,

    The problem with HDR is that it’s very difficult to get working on X11, to the point that those who tried (NVIDIA, 8 years ago) gave up long time ago and moved on. X11/Xorg is legacy solution that is still there mostly because it always was and things still depend on it.

    Wayland can get HDR and it gradually does, but it wasn’t priority for quite a long time as there was much more basic stuff missing, to the point many users wouldn’t switch until recently, and because X was still the preferred display system for most users for such a long time, it wasn’t priority to fill missing gaps on Wayland side and it wasn’t moving forward too fast.

    Now that things are coming together, over half of the user base (probably) already switched to Wayland, there are more desktop/WM options on the Wayland side, with fewer showstoppers every year, finally NVIDIA drivers start working on Wayland, color management is also getting closer to be part of the official spec. It’s already possible to play games in HDR, but with some solvable caveats: if a game runs on X11 (which for Wine/Proton the Wayland driver is still experimental) they use swap-chain hack to that’s only available in the gamescope compositor, so either in full blown Steak Deck session or wrapped in nested gamescope instance. This will be more out-of-box when:

    1. the stable color management protocol is actually in place, more compositors implement it (currently only gamescope and kwin_wayland have HDR)
    2. winewayland.drv stabilizes and implements HDR
    3. Wine and Proton run on Wayland natively by default
    Strawberry ,

    See windows drives me insane, but this probably would too

    tamal3 ,

    I need CAD software, but I don't think AutoCAD runs on Linux.

    C126 ,

    FreeCAD is pretty good

    bluewing ,

    As a user of FreeCAD and someone who made a living using CAD software, FreeCAD ain't it for the 'real world' yet. But I do have hopes that someday it might be.

    lemann ,

    I wholeheartedly agree with this tbh. Love FreeCAD for my 3D printing stuff, pretty much use it daily, however compared to something like Solidworks or AutoCAD it would be torture IMO to willingly chose FreeCAD for a complex real world product.

    The biggest roadblock for FreeCAD right now is that is isn't that forgiving, you often have to go into a "technical" way of thinking to work around its quirks. The reality is, designers want to design, not become technical experts at navigating FreeCAD.

    Even something like creating a thread shouldn't be as involved as FreeCAD makes it - once you get used to it it's OK, but in other CAD solutions it's often as simple as clicking a hole and choosing a thread creation tool...

    bluewing ,

    Well, threads are actually quite easy to create in FreeCAD these days. Unless you need some kind of specialty thread, like say a light bulb thread or British ME, (Model Engineer), thread.

    The Hole tool is merely point and select the thread you want - your choice of modeled or not. Plus you can do countersinks and counterbores from the same tool. The Thread Profile workbench makes external and internal threads fast and easy. Make your choice of thread - vee, buttress, or ACME/Trapazoidal and three clicks later you got a thread. The Fasteners workbench will also let you create threads easily too. Gears and springs have become simple to make with no real modeling required anymore. I've been trying out the Sheet metal workbench lately also. Not very full featured yet, but it does the basics pretty well so far. So lots of quality of life improvements have been making their way into FreeCAD since 0.17.

    Where FreeCAD fails, (beside the TPN issue), is in the somewhat slower basic work flow. But, with customization, it can get pretty close to being fairly fast. But most users are casual users and don't dig into settings very much. But the biggest issue is the lack of a decent single robust and integrated Assembly workbench. I can design parts all day long, but unless I can easily put them all together to see if and how they all work together, it makes FreeCAD a no-go for commercial work. I can't even really design a model steam engine and assemble all the parts very easily.

    Now, Ondsell is working on a unifying assembly workbench that I have very high hopes for, but it's not there yet. They do have a ways to go still.

    hubobes ,

    OnShape?

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    This clip lives in my head rent free.

    iAvicenna ,
    @iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

    where is the clip from?

    wesker ,
    @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
    iAvicenna ,
    @iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

    hahahaha

    set_secret ,

    My love for Linux remains unrequited because my work in video and photography ties me to Adobe. I’ve dabbled with dual-booting, and though Linux’s allure is undeniable, the inconvenience of constantly switching between operating systems is unbearable. The idea of mastering DaVinci Resolve and an alternative photo editor has crossed my mind, but deadlines loom, and time to learn new software is scarce. The anxiety of not knowing if I can accomplish my tasks with unfamiliar programs is overwhelming. Ironically, my disdain for Adobe rivals my contempt for Musk and Trump, making it all the more disheartening to feel ensnared by Adobe’s ecosystem when tantalising alternatives are just out of reach.

    mrvictory1 ,
    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    I'm not watching movies in Linux, I don't really care about HDR, but I've had nothing but horrible experiences out of video editing products in Linux. If it's not a skin for FFmpeg, My project has about a 10% chance of making it through to usable output.

    ZILtoid1991 ,

    I used the limited HDR capabilities of my monitor (VA panel with no backlight zones I can spot) in some games, it's somewhat better than in normal mode, otherwise I just use SDR to save power.

    Ziglin ,

    Hah the movies I watch never existed in HDR!

    lastweakness ,

    DaVinci Resolve works pretty well

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