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gencha ,

HDR? Who the fuck cares?

Honytawk ,

Every cinephile and most gamers

ayaya ,
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

Yep I don't even play that many games but I watch a lot of movies/TV. HDR works great in mpv. Couple of tweaks in your mpv.conf and you're off to the races.

gencha ,

I actually ran into a scenario where I wanted HDR on a Linux desktop only days after writing this. It was a stupid comment

SkyeStarfall ,

HDR is actually pretty cool, at least when you got a proper HDR display such as an OLED screen

slimarev92 ,

The day MS Office comes to linux (never?) normal people will definitely start using it (or their employers will force them to use it at work).

InFerNo ,

They will move the goal post and complain about something else Linux does or doesn't do.

palordrolap ,

Hasn't Office worked under Wine since forever?

(And if not, what are the show stoppers?)

Railcar8095 ,

Newest versions don't work very well. The only over that worked consistently got me read 2010.

I think part of the issue is that it's quite integrated with the system and that makes it harder. Crossover lists 2013 as working, but 2021 as not even installing

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

2010 is out of support

Also if you are talking about a business they are never going to use Wine. A Windows VM maybe but not wine.

Railcar8095 ,

Being OOS doesn't change that they read the last one that worked consistently for me. I'm not recommending to use it, just stating my experience.

Not sure were the business comment comes from.

dan ,
@dan@sffa.community avatar

Unpopular opinion: Microsoft Office suite sucks in UI and UX. LibreOffice is far superior to it.

Siegfried ,

I second you brother. I can't find shit in office suit, it's like they hide things on porpoise.

Allero ,

Gonna say I hated my experience with some of the LibreOffice apps, especially Impress. PowerPoint (and for that matter, Onlyoffice) is far superior in terms of layout.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Counter point: people who like a office suite like it because they know how to use it

Lucidlethargy ,
@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

I actually don't like ms office any longer. I used to use Open Office, and I kind of miss it. But I see your point, businesses still use this nonsense.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It is losing popularity

kerrigan778 ,

I literally use both of those yes

arin ,

HDR is amazing, SDR feels like stoneage

Ziglin ,

On my phone yes but monitors are way too expensive for the effect it has.

Although a terminal with a completely black background sounds pretty cool…

arin ,

OLED monitors will give you absolute dark blacks (text rendering sucks in windows but not sure about other os)

Aux ,

Who doesn't use HDR, lol?

chris ,
@chris@l.roofo.cc avatar

Me. I don't have an hdr screen.

Kess8a , (edited )
@Kess8a@lemy.lol avatar

Me, even though I do have a compatible laptop screen... I don't want to risk burning the OLED screen.

Edit: might give it a try though

Aux ,

Your OLED will burn in any case. So, enjoy HDR while you can.

histic ,

It doesn't affect burn in though?

Kess8a ,
@Kess8a@lemy.lol avatar

Maybe? normally I set the screen to a low brightness level to reduce burn-in, OLED screens still look plenty bright at levels where LCD screens would straight-up be unreadable. I might need to get used to HDR though...

woodenskewer ,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

Here I thought burn in died with CRTs

Killer57 ,

Me, I genuinely don't see the point in HDR.

zipzoopaboop ,

I didn't either, after using it for a year or so I see it as more important than resolution above 1080 in most newer games

mechoman444 ,

My screen doesn't even support it... But I'm also a cheapskate.

Nadru ,
@Nadru@lemmy.world avatar

Nobody uses Gimp anymore?

BynaD ,

I do.

arefx ,

Prefer photopea

lastweakness ,

Photopea is really nice. So is Krita. I wish Affinity would make a Linux version, but i doubt they would ever do that.

Nisaea ,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Still use and like it

BaumGeist ,

I'vw become so brainwashed by the FOSS Difference™ that if I see something exclusive to proprietary OSes, I assume it's 99% marketing and not actually an important nor useful feature. I have no idea what HDR is, but it sounds like a marketing acronym for something that's done worse than the FOSS equivalent

Also, my life is objectively better since I stopped using Adobe outside work.

UndercoverUlrikHD ,

Genuinely surprised you haven't heard about HDR before.

It's not needed for office work, but for media consumption it has been a big thing for at least half a decade at this point. I'm not sure you'll find a modern TV that doesn't support it at this point.

ArcaneSlime ,

I'm not him, but my TV is a 2007 1080p LCD Dumb TV. I'm not sure I need HDR support.

OH and I have a CRT upstairs, tiny with the VCR combo.

xycu ,

I have a Samsung 4K HDR 120hz TV and can't really tell any difference between it and my ancient non-smart Phillips LCD TV that it replaced.

I have an Xbox series x with 4k hdr enabled and everything still just looks "normal" to me.

120hz is slightly noticeable compared to 60 in games that support it, but not a huge deal. 99%+ of what i do on my TV isn't 4K, HDR, or 120hz, so it's not extremely valuable. From "couch distance" anything above 720p is unnoticeable anyway.

I also have a windows 11 laptop with 4k HDR screen and disabled HDR in settings because the colors were all horrible looking with it on. Honestly I run it in 1080 instead of 4k because it uses less battery, performs better, and many programs don't work correctly at 4K, and i can't tell the difference anyway. Tiny pixels are still tiny.

I realize this whole comment may come off as old man "get off my lawn" fist-shaking. I'm not trying to downplay other people's experiences who seem to be genuinely impressed by these features, and maybe I'm just "holding it wrong", but for me, personally, I regret spending extra for the whole 4K HDR thing.

ealoe ,

My stream deck, which I use to resize windows, lock my computer, handle Spotify and discord, and more, does not work at all with Linux. Switching to my dual boot option feels like cutting off my left thumb, sure I can still do most things it just takes longer and feels awkward so why would I?

JackbyDev , (edited )

I'm confused. I don't have a steam deck. Your steam deck is Linux. But it also sounds like you're using you steam deck like a Wii U Gamepad for your Windows Desktop? I can't tell if this is a shit post or a complaint about (seemingly) niche functions of a steam deck.

Solemn ,

They didn't misspell "stream deck"

JackbyDev , (edited )

I didn't say they did.

EDIT: OH MY FUCKING GOD. I'm blind.

ArcaneSlime ,

Don't feel bad lol I read it the same way as you!

OrnateLuna ,

Dw I was in the same boat

ealoe ,

Haha no worries, I also own a Steam Deck handheld, to make it extra confusing, but I was talking about a Stream deck by Elgato, a little device with programmable buttons.

JackbyDev ,

Yeah, I was like wtf do you mean you use it to move windows and control Spotify 😭❤️

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

So I'm confused. The Steam Deck is Linux

Hexarei ,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

They didn't say Steam Deck

Shifty ,

I struggled with this for a while, especially since my stream deck is a newer model with knobs and a touchscreen (streamdeck+) so most of the software I tried doesn't fully support it. Here is some of the software I have tried:

  • Boatswain -gnome themed, didn't really like it as it has no knob or touchscreen support (yet), and I don’t think it could run shell commands although I could be mistaken

  • Stream Controller - another gnome themed app and still doesnt fully support the stream deck plus

  • Streamdeck-ui - a qt app which can do some simple things like triggering keypresses and running shell commands, I used this for a while

  • Bitfocus Companion - a cross platform app with a web interface with lots of integrations; I’ve been using this as it fully supports my stream deck, knobs and all, as well as offering a lot of customisation with expressions and variables. I haven’t been able to get the discord integration to work correctly (at least with vesktop), but it works perfectly to control my media player, home assistant and mic. I even got it to display my now playing song and cover art, which I couldn’t figure out on windows with elgato’s official software.

If you’ve tried any of these and it wasn’t working, it could be an issue with udev rules, if these aren’t configured the software cannot interact with the device.

Vilian ,

use winapps on linux, adobe isn't problem anymore, nor office

Nisaea ,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Wait, as in office 365?

mrvictory1 ,

latest crossover supports o365

Nisaea ,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Last time I tried it claimed it did but the installer failed to run every time

redisdead ,

A friend came to my place with his Linux laptop, to grab some privateered games off of my Nas.

Couldn't connect to anything on the network.

He was like 'yo let me try these command lines'

When he was done fiddling around his computer wouldn't boot.

Ziglin ,

That friend sounds like they were pretty stupid or they just had an unrelated issue at the same time.

redisdead ,

Sounds like a typical Linux user ;)

lastweakness ,

Yeah maybe like in 1995... If you're having this kind of issue in the present day, you'd have to be shooting yourself in the foot very very intentionally. (An example is a broken custom Arch or Gentoo setup, which you shouldn't be using anyway unless you know exactly what you're doing.)

redisdead ,

I've been regularly trying whatever Linux distro is supposed to be good on and off every other year, and there was always something that made me go 'that should be working right out the box' and then spend too much time fixing it.

So not just from 1995.

lastweakness ,

If you're not able to connect to a NAS for some reason, that's almost definitely on you or your friend in this case. But even that aside, expecting a one to one transition has always felt odd to me... You don't switch from an Android device to an iOS device or vice versa with the expectation of everything working one to one. You usually understand that there's a lot of differences involved.

There's ofc things like VR that I will admit Linux is quite far behind in, but for general use, Linux is problem-free for the most part these days. And you definitely don't end up having an unbootable system pretty much ever unless you intentionally fuck it up. Like yeah, Linux lets me uninstall the kernel or bootloader if i choose to do that (it will try to warn me ofc) and that would render the system unbootable. But that would be me being irredeemably stupid, not the operating system's fault. Hell, some distros like Tumbleweed even come with a better snapshotting setup than both Windows and macOS, making it pretty much impossible to fuck it up that badly.

ruse8145 ,

this is the other thing linux communities are well-known for: blaming the user for not being good enough.

i think the last time my linux failed to boot there was a power outage...but the machine was a laptop. before that it was running an update (fedora/nobara). before that it was installing void ("installation complete" -> reboot ->grub recovery). before that it was running an update (pop_os). Before that it was running an update (manjaro, this was during a brief moment when it was very popular and linux folks claimed it was user friendly and suitable for moderate users). I've managed to recover from most of those cases listed above, but with the exception of manjaro that was 2023+2024 right there.

lastweakness , (edited )

I said your friend is an idiot, not you. And even in his case, i only really blamed him for literally intentionally messing shit up. Should I remind you that you're the one who said that story? Congrats on winning your argument against a strawman i guess?

The second paragraph of your answer just tells me you have never had an idea of what you're doing. And that would be totally fine if you didn't blame it on Linux as a whole, btw. But you do just that.

Why would you use everything except the most obvious distro choices? Manjaro is literally famous for terrible practices, always has been. 5 minutes of research would tell you that much. You try nobara but not vanilla fedora?? You try pop_os but not Linux Mint? You try Void for some reason?? Fkin Void? You're clearly not really ready to tinker and you want stuff to just work, so just go with something obviously and famously stable and out of the box like Linux Mint. It's really that simple... You complicate shit for yourself and then complain about how you've had terrible experiences. Ofc you've had them because you never really bothered to try and keep it simple for yourself.

I always choose the practical solution over anything else. And there are real problems in Linux right now, like fractional scaling on GNOME, VR, HDR being hit or miss, anticheat not working, etc. So i don't force anybody onto Linux. But pretending we're still in 1995 is just malicious coming from you.

If you're just lost about shit, people in the Linux community are generally ready to help. Hell, if you describe your use cases well, literally everybody would help you as much as they can. But coming on here and using a wild (and probably fake) story to flame something for no real reason and then expecting a positive response is kind of weird, don't you think?

Edit: sorry, wrong user i guess. You all haters kind of blend in and look the same lol.

ruse8145 ,

I won't bother responding to your hate fueled rage post except to say those are all highly recommended distros, except Manjaro which I've already stated was hot at the time. Void for example is the no-contest top rated distro right now. When the "best" Linux has to offer won't get past grub from their install wizard, that's not an incompetence issue.

lastweakness ,

Look man, irrespective of who i originally intended to reply to, you responded to me by saying I was simply blaming the user. Which clearly wasn't the case. If you think his initial anecdote at all is realistic, then you haven't really used any well established distro in a while. Accessing an SMB share especially is very very straightforward right now if nothing else.

Void is a distro that doesn't use systemd. That alone would put it out of the contest, let alone being the top-rated distro... It's fine to not understand why that is, but again, you could have just asked on any community. Again man, stop complicating stuff for yourself... And I never said you're incompetent, you're probably really good at this stuff, I feel like you just haven't taken the time to read through and understand. And again, even that would be fine, just don't blame Linux in its entirety. Linux is too broad to be blamed in its entirety.

If you go by hype alone, NixOS is probably the most popular distro right now, doesn't mean I'm going to recommend it to you.

Use an actually well-established distribution like Fedora, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Ubuntu or Linux mint. Use Plasma if you can. Use Flatpaks for packages where possible and use the native repository otherwise. It's pretty much that easy these days. I even use the Steam flatpak for gaming nowadays. Grass is pretty green over here now, and I'm saying that as someone who does still use Windows. I use Windows both at work and for certain games. So it's not like I'm out of touch either.

Sorry if that post felt rage fueled by the way, didn't mean it that way and wasn't in rage either. I'm just bad with conveying stuff, especially with English not being my first language :)

redisdead ,

My Nas is a standard truenas scale installation with standard SMB shares that all my windows computers pick up instantly without any or extremely limited fiddling.

I'm not some nooblet that doesn't know shit, tyvm. I've been using computers for decades.

I don't expect a one to one translation between using windows and Linux, but I do expect basic functionalities to be, well, functional out if the box.

lastweakness ,

SMB works out of the box on every major distro, so yes, you're bullshitting or your friend is genuinely an idiot

redisdead ,

I agree, he's a Linux user.

lastweakness ,

Wow you so smart bro...

people_are_cute ,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes I do use HDR. Bluetooth too. Sorry Linux users, we exist.

phoenixz ,

HDR is available in KDE now, and bluetooth works since like a decade? Sorry, you don't exist.

people_are_cute ,
@people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

bluetooth works since like a decade

Lol no it doesn't. It's still entirely at the mercy of the OEM, many of who often don't bother with Linux support. Acer is the biggest example.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I've never had Bluetooth not work. While I'm sure some devices have issues it isn't the norm

phoenixz ,

I'm sure there is still hardware out there with issues, just like there is hardware that has issues with Windows. What's your point?

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

It is crazy how the bots think they matter

Sethayy ,

Woah do you even use a keyboard??

None of those over here since the 80s

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh yeah I forgot, Bluetooth is banned on Linux... Bruh what are you even talking about? Lol

Alborlin , (edited )

Here is to barge of negative votes but why linux sucks

  1. A user has to use terminals for lot of cases when they have to install softwares

  2. There is no single way to add program to startup on different distors, even in some distros you have to go terminal route

  3. Its 2024 nobody wants to use terminals like Olsen days , while using os at fullest not possible in Linux

  4. A user who wants to do something can/will cone across rabbit hole. You want to install xyz , then can't run cause it has depend view, you installed those but there are this thing missing , that thing missing............

  5. I only care about Minecraft, if you search if moneycraft runs on Linux , third results shows you rabbit hole , second is question which distro can't run Minecraft...... REPEAT I AND DOZENS OF US , DONT CARE ABOUT STEAM AT ALL.

6.i plug in HDD it's availablity to me throught apps across anything , I don't have to MOUNT -A-B-C xyz anywhere at all

I will paste a full reply from another thread
Till then linux dudebros linux does not work for ordinary users no matter what market share it has .

Courtesy user :bearoftime
Lol, right. Linux ain't even close to replacing windows - just look at the gaming issues that persist, or other compatibility issues.

It's great for specific use-case scenarios, but I'm not dealing with supporting friends and family when stuff doesn't work because I told them to install a Linux distro.

Besides, business doesn't have this issue - it's only on home (not Pro) installs, because for business we do all sorts of system management that would preclude this, even is MS tried to push it.

This just reflects how MS sees home users - there's no profit there (never has been, it's always been about getting people used to Windows at home, to capture the audience).

No one in my family is allowed to use Windows Home versions. They either buy pro when they get a new computer, or I get it for them.

My standard response to "just go Linux" :

I keep having to say this, as much as I like Linux for certain things, as a desktop it's still no competition to Windows, even with this awful shit going on.

As some background - I had my first UNIX class in about 1990. I wrote my first Fortran program on a Sperry Rand Univac (punched cards) in about 1985. Cobol was immediately after Fortran (wish I'd stuck with Cobol).

I run a Mint laptop. Power management is a joke. Configured as best as possible, walked in the other day and it was dead - as in battery at zero, won't even boot. Windows would never do this, unless you went out of your way to config power management to kill the battery (even then, to really kill it you have to boot to BIOS and let it sit, Windows will not let a battery get to zero).

There no way even possible via the GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions.

There are many reasons why Linux doesn't compete with Windows on the desktop - this is just one glaring one.

Now let's look at Office. Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel. Tables are something that's just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort. The devs of open office refuse to support tables, saying "you should manage data in a proper database app". No, I'm not setting up a DB in an open-source competitor to Access. That's just too much effort for simple sorting and filtering tasks, and isn't realistically shareable with other people. I do this several times a day in excel.

Now there's that print monitor that's on by default, and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? In the 21st century?

Networking... Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn't say "save creds"? Oh, yea, command line again or go download an app to clear them for for you. Smh.

Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won't even recognize it. You have to search for a solution and go find a download that makes it work. My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of windows since 2000, at the least, and would probably work on Win95.

Someone else said it better than me:

Every time I've installed Linux as my main OS (many, many times since I was younger), it gets to an eventual point where every single thing I want to do requires googling around to figure out problems. While it's gotten much better, I always ended up reinstalling Windows or using my work Mac. Like one day I turn it on and the monitor doesn't look right. So I installed twenty things, run some arbitrary collection of commands, and it works.... only it doesn't save my preferences.

So then I need to dig into .bashrc or .bash_profile (is bashrc even running? Hey let me investigate that first for 45 minutes) and get the command to run automatically.. but that doesn't work, so now I can't boot.. so I have to research (on my phone now, since the machine deathscreens me once the OS tries to load) how to fix that... then I am writing config lines for my specific monitor so it can access the native resolution... wait, does the config delimit by spaces, or by tabs?? anyway, it's been four hours, it's 3:00am and I'm like Bryan Cranston in that clip from Malcolm in the Middle where he has a car engine up in the air all because he tried to change a lightbulb.

And then I get a new monitor, and it happens all damn over again. Oh shit, I got a new mouse too, and the drivers aren't supported - great! I finally made it to Friday night and now that I have 12 minutes away from my insane 16 month old, I can't wait to search for some drivers so I can get the cursor acceleration disabled. Or enabled. Or configured? What was I even trying to do again? What led me to this?

I just can't do it anymore. People who understand it more than I will downvote and call me an idiot, but you can all kiss my ass because I refuse to do the computing equivalent of building a radio out of coconuts on a deserted island of ancient Linux forum posts because I want to have Spotify open on startup EVERY time and not just one time. I have tried to get into Linux as a main dev environment since 1997 and I've loved/liked/loathed it, in that order, every single time.

I respect the shit out of the many people who are far, far smarter than me who a) built this stuff, and 2) spend their free time making Windows/Mac stuff work on a Linux environment, but the part of me who liked to experiment with Linux has been shot and killed and left to rot in a ditch along the interstate.

Now I love Linux for my services: Proxmox, UnRAID, TrueNAS, containers for Syncthing, PiHole, Owncloud/NextCloud, CasaOS/Yuno, etc, etc. I even run a few Windows VM's on Linux (Proxmox) because that's better than running Linux VM's of a Windows server.

Linux is brilliant for this stuff. Just not brilliant for a desktop, let alone in a business environment.

Linux doesn't even use a common shell (which is a good thing in it's own way), and that's a massive barrier for users.

If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would've had a chance to beat MS, even then it would've required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.

These are what MS did in the 1980's to make Windows attractive to the 3 groups who contend with desktops: developers, business management, end users.

All this without considering the systems management requirements of even an SMB with perhaps a dozen users (let alone an enterprise with tens of thousands).

dependencyinjection ,

What’s wrong with the Terminal? It’s all I used on Mac. I hate the windows command prompt.

Minecraft Java runs awesome on Linux. The only Minecraft version that matters.

Allero ,

Yeah I also didn't understand the take about Minecraft.
It's literally installed the same way as in Windows. Being a Java game, it doesn't care at all, you can run it on whatever. And Java itself is installed just the same.

Y2K38 ,

It even has a dedicated installer coming from mojang.

Hexarei ,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

That's only true for the Java edition, some people play the Bedrock edition instead tho - and even then, that can still be run on Linux lol

HEXN3T ,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I honestly think terminal simplifies a lot of things. It's quick to pick up on the most common commands and ends up being way faster and easier than installing an executable. Every time I find out something isn't available on Homebrew, I just GAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

dependencyinjection ,

I agree. I mean I am biased as I’m a software dev, but at my company we use Windows so not too much terminal work, but I prefer it, particularly given that the web browser to find things is becoming more difficult with SEO shit.

Who wouldn’t want to type one line to install something vs clicking loads of buttons and downloading a file, then opening the file, then following all the prompts etc.

Even more so if you’re installing Linux then surely you’re more on the tech savvy side or at least e have a desire to be.

Honytawk ,

Terminal or any command line is not user friendly.

It may be poweruser friendly, but that is only a sliver of users.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

The rest of the users can use an iPad or Chrome OS. Windows isn't this magical thing that makes everything work.

gamermanh ,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think your issue with Linux and the terminal might be your horrid grip on the written language and not a Linux problem

Bahnd ,

Nah, their right... For people that can see the matrix (If you pardon the analogy) its fine and preferable to a desktop. However, to most people if it can be done from the desktop or menus it may as well not exist. If you try and explain it their eyes glaze over, they dont eant to learn something new, they just want to stare at the ass of the woman in the red dress...

Im expirenced enough to live in a terminal because I host servers locally and Im a fairly recent convertee to full-time Linux desktop for gaming. Ive been shouting from the roof tops that its good enough now, to the people in my immediate meat space it falls of deaf ears, the privacy trainwreck that is windows and the evils of the modern internet are not a concern to them. So they dont feel any need to change things...

JargonWagon ,
GreatDong3000 ,

No you don't need the terminal in most distros meant for desktop use to install software. Your distro will have a GUI app store, then flatpak and snap which are the most common software repositories after your distro's default also have GUI. You can use the terminal because it is literally faster, you don't have to if you lack cognitive ability to write apt install gimp or some shit.

ZeroHora ,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

A user has to use terminals for lot of cases when they have to install softwares

Did you ever used the winget/Chocolatey in Windows? Is fucking awesome, so much better than downloading random .exe on google, clicking next 5 times and unchecking the option to install the antivirus bundled with the program.

There is no single way to add program to startup on different distors, even in some distros you have to go terminal route

??, Tweaks on Gnome and KDE Settings program.

I only care about Minecraft, if you search if moneycraft runs on Linux.

Prism launcher flatpak, minecraft running with 5 seconds and the mod support/profiles is fucking dope.

.i plug in HDD it’s availablity to me throught apps across anything , I don’t have to MOUNT -A-B-C xyz anywhere at all

Ok this one sucks, took me quite some time to understand and setup for the first time

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar
  1. Not really, just use your DE's software manager.

  2. This isn't dependent on distro, but your DE, which determines the entire UI. It's like complaining the settings menu isn't consistent between Google's Android and Samsung's Android. For reference, under Gnome, you have to install Gnome Tweaks, then just open that and go to Startup Applications in the sidebar.

  3. Heavily depends on what you want to do. Many use cases (such as Minecraft) don't really need the terminal at all.

  4. Yeah, that's not at all unique to Linux though

  5. Minecraft Java is officially available on Linux, and should be available in your software manager. Minecraft bedrock is not available officially, but a program called Minecraft Bedrock Launcher is available that will let you run the Android version of the game.

  6. I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but media should be available to mount in the side bar of your file manager

LinyosT ,
  1. Not really a lot of cases. It only appears that way because the terminal is just efficient so people generally tend to use it over the alternative. Very rarely, if at all, would the average user need to use the terminal at this point. Assuming the end user isn’t using a more advanced distro like Arch or Gentoo.

  2. There’s plenty of ways to achieve that. It largely depends on the desktop env. But the most common ones make it very easy. Though their settings.

  3. Sounds like the end users problem more than Linux’s problem. They don’t have to use the terminal. But a lot of FUD around the subject makes it out like there’s a requirement to use it.

  4. How common is this issue? Package managers handle dependencies automatically so you don’t have issues with needing to install X to install Y to install Z. You just install Z. X and Y are pulled in automatically.

  5. Again that’s the end users issue if they’re incapable of figuring out how to search their issue or how to decide which source is useful to them or not. Installing MC is painfully easy on just about any distro. Just install prism launcher. Every distro should be able to run Minecraft because the game is written in Java. Java’s whole thing is that its code is portable/not platform specific.

  6. Yeah that’s an issue. It should be better than it is. But it’s also not too hard to handle.

ArcaneSlime ,

1,2, and 3, all boil down to "Terminal." You could have condensed those lol. And get good dude the terminal is ridiculously easy and powerful, you can become proficient enough in an afternoon for all the copy/pasting from stack overflow you may need.

4, Ooohhh you haven't tried any distro since 2006? Dependencies are managed by your package manager for you, unless you're using Slackware and even then I think they have stuff for that now (maybe some nice person will reply with that answer because I actually want to try slackware, but fuck managing my own dependancies.)

5, Oh you were born the same year as the last linux distro you tried? Wild.

6, and we're back to "I've never even heard of Gnome or KDE but they definitely can't do this thing they've been able to do for 20yr." Bruh I mount externals from the file browser or the taskbar every day what the hell are you talking about? I'm gonna do it again in about 4hrs when I get home because all my totally not pirated media is on there.

Dude if you're gonna complain about linux at least try it first, this list reads like something some windows fanboy told you in the XP or Vista days ffs.

possiblylinux127 ,
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So don't use Linux I guess? Just because your some old guy who thinks they know everything doesn't mean that Linux isn't good for people who didn't grow up worshipping Microsoft.

Not to say Linux is issue free but it is certainly better than it was.

Lettuceeatlettuce ,
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You're just wrong on literally every point dude.

  1. Nope, I've installed Linux Mint for multiple people, several different apps, never touched the terminal. I even updated the kernel all through the GUI.
  2. Basically the same on all the most popular distros. Searching "startup" or "autostart" in KDE Plasma, Cinnamon, and Gnome DEs all bring up an easy GUI app for getting programs to start automatically.
  3. Same as #1. You don't need to use the terminal to install most software, especially not anything popular. And guess what, you need the terminal to do hardcore stuff on Windows too. I know because I've worked for years in IT and have to use the Windows terminal for all kinds of random stuff, I literally had to use Powershell today.
  4. This happens in Windows too. Just ask me how many times I've had to install old .NET frameworks or other random drivers/3rd party software to get some piece of software/hardware to work on Windows. Something that I thought would be a 10 minute install turns into an hour because of random shit not working right.
  5. Bruh, I play Minecraft all the time. Hundreds and hundreds of hours. It's one of the easiest games to play on Linux. And I play with tons of mods, texture packs, and shaders. I've been playing Minecraft on multiple Linux distros for 4 years, it runs great.
  6. All major distros auto-mount external drives. I have a whole bag of thumb drives, external HDDs, and SSDs that I use in my day job. Never had a problem with them not being picked up and mounted by any of the Linux systems I work on.

I mean, don't use it I guess, but stop spreading these obviously false claims, man. Have fun getting all your personal data farmed by a multi trillion dollar megacorp and fed into AI engines to churn out infinite heaps of sludge. Oh yeah, and all the endless popup ads in an OS that you already paid for...

zipzoopaboop ,

Does mint have trial/dual boot easy install like Ubuntu?

Wulff ,

Yes, any distro with a live ISO will allow you to try it on a USB and dual boot if you want.

zipzoopaboop ,

But does it have the easy dual boot setup flow of Ubuntu? With that you tick the option in setup and it basically does everything for you, just asks about disk allocation

Wulff ,

That's not a feature of Ubuntu, more so the installer itself. I'm sure many distros, especially Ubuntu-based one will ship with the exact same installer. Idk if mint uses the same installer, but it would really surprise me that the option isn't available.

Thankfully it's pretty easy to confirm by yourself. Grab a USB key, flash the ISO and have a look at it!

zipzoopaboop ,

Ah sweet, I'll give it a go then. Need to figure out the flavor I like by the win10 support cutoff

Wulff ,

Awesome! I haven't looked at mint in quite a few years, but I would recommend cinnamon as the default.

MATE and XFCE are mostly targeted towards older hardware.

Sputnik34 ,

Can you not use premiere if you have a virtual machine running windows? I really want to switch over but I'm so engrained with premiere that learning Davinci just seems like a nightmare

AProfessional ,

That works fine. For any GPU task, like encoding, having a second one is great.

urska OP ,

Yeah you can. Some people don't double boot if they need windows. They have windows secluded on a VM.

konidia ,

Most users pirate them.

possiblylinux127 ,
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I love pirating HDR support

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