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systemglitch ,

I hate flags

Skanky ,

God hates flags

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

Nationalism is unnatural

jtk ,
@jtk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That's not a "straight pride" flag, that's a "doubling down on our anti-LGBTQ+ agenda because they dare to defy us with their own flag" flag. I'm straight, that flag does not represent me, it represents bigoted fucks. There are already several flags for that.

NoMoreLurkingToo ,

"There are already several flags for that."

Yes. And in fact, a couple of those flags plagiarize ancient Hindu symbols... See if you can find which (hint: it's not the lotus...)

jtk ,
@jtk@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

When I learned about that one is when I figured out all symbolism of anything good is doomed to stray from it's original meaning. Fools and assholes will ultimately adopt them in an attempt to appear more credible on the surface, when people start figuring them out, they associate that symbol with that behavior, and it's game over. They do it to flags, religious totems, words, anything that might be able to grant them a benefit-of-the-doubt buff for a while.

jadero ,

That flag is a horrible design, but how does something "look gay?"

Ioughttamow ,

Guess you’re not a 90s kid!

jadero ,

Hah, definitely not! 67 on my last birthday.

unexposedhazard ,

Except for white its the same colors as in the trans flag, maybe thats why people associate it with lgbt+ flags

weariedfae , (edited )

No shade intended but by any chance are you Gen Z or younger?

If so, there's some ingrained toxic social more context you might not understand because you grew up in a better society than we did.

But if you're genuinely asking...

  • Anything that acknowledges women exist? Gay
  • Anything that recognizes men in relation to others instead of as the default? Believe it or not, gay
  • Anything that involves sharing? Gay
  • Pink? Gay
  • Blue? Also gay
  • Pink and blue? Liberace
  • Diagonal lines? Gay
  • The male/female Mars/Venus signs? Gay
  • The Venus sign on a blue background? Lesbian
  • Mars sign on a pink background? Flaming gay
  • Two men standing near each other? friends of Dorothy
  • Two men holding a flag together? Gay
  • The way the one guy is pinching the corner? Super fucking gay
  • Wearing a teal shirt? Gay
  • Wearing a yellow tie? Gay

I could keep going but I think you might get the picture.

Edit: formatting

CraigeryTheKid ,

I still have relatives that say "ugh that's gay" to mean "I don't like that".

I don't speak to these relatives anymore.

TexasDrunk ,

It took me years to break that habit. I also worked really hard not to use the r word to mean I think something is fucking stupid.

It was common to use both of those when I was a kid. It didn't occur to me at the time that it might hurt someone (again, stupid kid). I've still caught myself using the r word on a rare occasion but I can keep trying.

Kyatto , (edited )
@Kyatto@leminal.space avatar

I used to say it, cause it was my environment in a very lgbtphobic area around lgbtphobic people to fit in, stopped saying it cause I don't want to spread hate, and started using it again, cause it is my environment in a very gay friend group and gay girlfriend cause it feels funny and good to reclaim it.

TexasDrunk ,

I get exactly what you're saying. I'm a hetero dude but I'm around a lot of LGBTQ folks, many of whom are my friends. If something is literally homosexual (like my friend kissing her girlfriend or someone wearing a T-shirt with a homosexual themed graphic) I'll still say "That's gay!" There's at least a couple of people who use the phrase to mean that certain things are awesome.

Kyatto ,
@Kyatto@leminal.space avatar

Exactly! We also like to poke fun at it ever being a "bad" thing. One of our running gags with each other, my partner and I, is to respond to something/event by saying "I think I might be gay" and the other one of us will feign horror.

exocrinous ,

It's still common for people to use "narcissist" as an insult when it's the name of a mental disorder.

GroteStreet ,

I lost it at Liberace. Also apparently this is the official colour of Liberace

jadero ,

Nope. 67 and doing my best since high school to be inclusive in my thinking.

I guess I just don't get how anyone other than a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper could say that most of what you point out of indicates gayness.

Someone else went through a "symbolic analysis" that helps me see some of it.

Syrc ,

a toxic fuck or at least a thoughtless stereotyper

That’s like everyone back when I was in school, me included.

jadero ,

Yeah, point taken. The toxic fuckery I saw and experienced and probably propogated in school is likely why I've put in effort to be better.

CraigeryTheKid ,

I'm 40, and when I first opened the image, I was overwhelmed with how hilariously gay it looked. But not in a bad way - almost at if it were made unironically for lgbtq.

The other person that replied to you with a lengthy list is spot on.

Glowstick , (edited )

There's (unintentionally?) lots of symbolism here that reads as lgbtq. The male symbol being in the pink area, the female symbol being in the blue area, the male symbol has its erect phallus arrow pointing away from the female symbol, the parts of both symbols that are the same (the rings) are the only parts that touch each other, the overlapping rings create a shape that's very evocative of a butt, the background color field is at a steep angle making it very much not straight with the horizon of the flag and not straight with the orientation of the gendered symbols.

Plus in this particular photo it's two men holding the same flag which is supposed to be representing a sexuality, and the phallus of the male symbol points right at one of the men, and the material of the flag looks very satiny which is considered a very effeminate look.

All in all, it's harder to find symbolism here that actually reads as straight rather than lgbtq.

jadero ,

Thanks.

Kyrgizion ,

All in all, it’s harder to find symbolism here that actually reads as straight rather than lgbtq.

It's much harder to come up with something genuinely more gay. This is possibly the gayest image I have ever seen.

fsxylo ,

Adapt it as the new gay flag just to fuck with them.

BradleyUffner ,

Not right away though. That would scare them off. Give them a little time to adopt it first and start flying it at their house. THEN pull the switcheroo.

Gabu ,

How does a blue curtain look blue?

nexussapphire ,

Yeah, I don't get it. I like pink but I hate this flag! Straight guys don't really need a flag, most of them advertise it enough. I'm straight and I find most the jokes distasteful.

HowManyNimons ,

Things look gay by being well designed in my experience.

sxan ,
@sxan@midwest.social avatar

The gay community adopted and have used pastels in messaging for decades, and this flag has pastels in spades.

It's not 100% of course; judging anything by sight alone is fraught*, but pastels in advertising is a pretty decent indicator.

(*) are you certain that's a Nazi Swastika, or is that skinhead Hindu?

jadero ,

Thanks for putting exactly the nuance I was looking for! Symbols are important, but diversity disappears when we use symbols as a substitute for reality.

AllNewTypeFace ,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

I though the official Straight Pride flag was in black and white (no grey areas or ambiguity), with a male symbol on top of a female symbol (depicting the hierarchy of dominance the sorts of people who would have such a flag consider the only acceptable order)

mindbleach ,

I endorse the T-Shirt Hell version, which is a cute little arched rainbow, in greyscale.

ed_cock ,

the official Straight Pride flag

As the interim CEO of Straight I can assure you that no such thing exists because having a flag is, according to the board of directors, "pretty gay". I refer you to the OP should you require further proof.

Kusimulkku ,

I didn't know we had one

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

The one I knew of was monochrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_flag

Kusimulkku ,

Those flags look like shit imo. That article is quite something though

In 2019, the American organization Super Happy Fun America led a straight pride parade in Boston, in the United States, in August of the same year

Super Happy Fun America

Super Happy Fun America (SHFA) is a Massachusetts-based right-wing political organization. SHFA and its leaders are known for their ties to white nationalism and the far-right

That name and logo combined with that description, wow

In 2021, a social media trend called "super straight" emerged on TikTok on 21 February and later spread to other websites like 4chan, Reddit and Twitter. Supporters stated that "super straight" was a new sexuality describing heterosexuals who would never have a sexual relationship with transgender people. Its originator said he created the term because he was tired of being called transphobic.

From TikTok to 4chan. Future is now, old man.

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Its originator said he created the term because he was tired of being called transphobic.

Yep, definitely the only sane response to being called transphobic because he couldn't keep his shitty opinions to himself.

Kusimulkku ,

The logic astounds me.

schmorpel ,
@schmorpel@slrpnk.net avatar

Who is writing this timeline - please stop it's insane! I want more kittens, less 4chan gay flag waving idiot nazis.

HowManyNimons ,

Murdoch is. Come on. You knew that.

exocrinous ,

I have this new philosophy called super humanism. It's where I support people's human rights, except for fascist pieces of shit like the guy who came up with super straight.

jupiter_jazz ,

Super duper straight lol

PiratePanPan ,

God, I remember arguing with a dude on Xitter who identified as a super bisexual, because he somehow couldn't see how idiotic it was.

rottingleaf ,

It looks Breton

Guntrigger ,

Oh I didn't realise we were testing our contrast today.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

"We" didn't. I hope you don't identify with the people needing this flag.

Kusimulkku ,

"We" meaning straight people.

RizzRustbolt ,

Gold?

You idiots! There's nothing gayer than gold!

Thcdenton ,

If the "stop calling me a homo" kid was a flag

Honytawk ,

Quite a pull to not use straight lines on a straight flag.

Cipher22 ,

I'm confused at why an LGBTQ community wouldn't take the strategy of forceful adoption. Mostly under the point that they offer a home to all. However, it would negate any exclusion arguments against those communities.

Take your adversaries symbols and make them yours kinda thing. A Yankee Doodle approach.

"Where's muh straight flag?"

"Right here sparky."

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, what exactly are you saying we should do?

worldofbirths ,
@worldofbirths@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, please elaborate. I can't tell if I agree or not.

name_NULL111653 ,

The straight flag was made by homophobes... above comment was proposing that we hijack it and make it part of the lgbtq+ community, fly it in pride parades, etc., the same way we turned "queer" from a slur into an identity label.

GlendatheGayWitch ,

The straight flag has been around for quite a while. It's black and white horizontal stripes. The ally flag is the straight flag with a rainbow "A" on it.

These guys in the picutre didn't bother doing any research evidently and started flying the wrong flag.

rickyrigatoni ,
@rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee avatar

Why are they both bald

N_Crow ,
@N_Crow@leminal.space avatar

Aerodynamics

Stalinwolf , (edited )
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

It is of too fucking gay, bro. I went of too fucking gay at age of nineteen, and now look upon me. There is nothing. My head is barren.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought this was a child comment beneath the one about it the flag looking gay. Then there was something about them looking Russian in there and it amalgamated into whatever the fuck I posted.

Squirrel ,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

They're too manly for hair.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Follicular testosterone sensitivity.

some_guy ,

Let's beat them up for kissing girls. Who am I kidding. These guys can't get self-respecting women.

Grant_M ,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Bigot pride!

PiratePanPan ,

This is what you get when you order a bisexual pride flag off Temu

fustigation769curtain ,

Yeah... they could've done a better job there.

LesserAbe ,

What would be a good straight flag that also follows vexillology best practices?

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