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rickyrigatoni ,
@rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee avatar

Why are they both bald

N_Crow ,
@N_Crow@leminal.space avatar

Aerodynamics

Stalinwolf , (edited )
@Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

It is of too fucking gay, bro. I went of too fucking gay at age of nineteen, and now look upon me. There is nothing. My head is barren.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought this was a child comment beneath the one about it the flag looking gay. Then there was something about them looking Russian in there and it amalgamated into whatever the fuck I posted.

Squirrel ,
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

They're too manly for hair.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Follicular testosterone sensitivity.

Blackmist ,

They look like two Russian brothers who have bought a third tier football club purely as some sort of elaborate tax evasion ruse.

grrgyle ,
@grrgyle@slrpnk.net avatar

Also they love just hanging out in the locker room for some reason

96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

Isn't being proud of your sexuality mostly a response to being shamed by bigots for your sexuality? Like: parts of society look down on my sexuality? Well fuck you, I'm proud of it! If you're not being shamed at all, isn't a bit weird to be proud of such things? As if you did anything to become a heterosexual. No one cares, nor should they.

Jrockwar ,

Yeah, that is the whole point. The whole point is not "I am proud of who I am attracted to", the point is "I am proud of being open about who I am attracted to despite the bigots and social challenges".

Which is why there is no "straight pride", "blond pride", or "high school student pride". There is no glory in doing something that is statistically speaking, completely devoid of interest...

fustigation769curtain ,

Yeah, but the more we demonize normal people, the more interesting they become.

Jax ,

There is no glory in doing something that is statistically speaking, devoid of interest...

Wait, I thought this was about being proud of standing up to bigots?

Is it about being a statistical anomaly and special, or about being a progressive activist?

Cuz I'll tell you what pride month is to me, as a straight man. Pride month is one of many placative gestures performed by corporations in order to manipulate my empathy into buying their products. It's a nice set of makeup that corporations get to wear while you go out and suffer the consequences. You, as someone who is a part of the LGBTQ+ community, should be painfully aware of the damaging effects that corporate usage of the pride month aesthetic has had on public perception of the people in that group.

Yet, here you are. Concerned about establishing why you're more fucking special than straight people.

Jrockwar ,

No no, pride is not about being "special". Nobody is special. It's about people embracing who they are, despite having a tougher going than others.

It's about not staying in the closet in a country with bigots.
It's about being a woman in a working culture that favours men.
It's about going to university in a country that favours manual labour.
It's about being trans... and daring to say out loud "this is not my gender".

Being a white, straight, cis man is not very difficult. Being a non-white, straight, cis woman is statistically more common, but harder. Normally, "statistical anomalies" have a harder going, but this is definitely not about being special. It's about being whoever you are, despite the adversity.

Also, to clarify - I haven't mentioned anything about not being straight. My sexual orientation has nothing to do with my response.

Jax ,

Everything you've said I appreciate, I fully recognize that the LGTBQ+ community should be proud of itself for the reasons you've listed.

I also maintain that pride month has been perverted into something else by corporate interests. Mark my words, the longer the LGBTQ+ community adheres itself to corporations; the worse the inevitable damage will be. I have nothing else to add.

AngryMob ,

Corporations leech off cultures and communities, sure. but that doesnt have to devalue them. Its a separate issue entirely.

Jax ,

I disagree, when corporations have infinitely more reach and influence you have no hope of controlling any narrative they're a part of.

They own pride month. The LGBTQ+ community does not.

roguetrick ,

Fundementally as long as pride month's story is linked to stonewall and that story is always told, pride month will always have a bigger symbolism with the counterculture than any corporate influence.

There's a reason American labor day explicitly does not happen in May.

Jax ,

Corporate influence isn't counterculture. In fact it's pride month that is actually counterculture.

I find it amusing that you're using labor day as an example of the "control" you or anyone has over corporate narratives.

Your money has less purchasing power than it ever has, but we really showed them on Labor Day huh? That day that's so important we shift the date to whenever we feel like.

roguetrick ,

I think you've completely missed my point. The American labor day was chosen to have a no symbolic date specifically because of the power that the 8 hour work week protests and the haymarket affair in the month of may. It's the definition of a co-opted holiday. It's essentially the Tienanmen Incident for America.

Jax ,

And my point is that it's a paltry concession and ultimately meaningless, as evidenced by the current state of affairs for the average person (in the U.S.).

I fully understood when I wrote that comment that there wasn't a specific "Labor Day", my question was rhetorical.

roguetrick ,

... Perhaps if I spell it out you'll get it. Pride is important because of the stonewall riots and the sociological symbolism that accompanies those riots which encourages sometimes violent resistance to those that impede on your rights. Similarly international labor day (may day) was rejected by the US as a holiday because it involved riots that resulted in positive change(the 8 hour work day). I was contrasting them. I was not using US labor day as a reason why pride is important. I was explaining that the avoidance of that symbolism by those in power is what explicitly makes pride important.

Jax ,

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying, despite your inability to remain respectful.

Pride month isn't voluntary for many people that experience it. They are just subjected to it by corporations. Do you know how simple it is for an idiot to make a false correlation between increased pushes for inclusivity and a decline in quality of whatever good or service they're receiving? Because people blamed Biden for the inflation at the beginning of his term.

Spare me the third lecture, if what I'm saying isn't making sense then I'm writing you off as a corporate shill.

roguetrick ,

You must encounter a lot of corporate shills then. The idea that pride is an vehicle to blame the gays for externalities is absolutely ridiculous.

Wes_Dev ,

Yup. This is essentially the same as people suddenly screaming about "WHITE PRIDE!!!!" in response to things like Black Live Matter.

The entire point is a minority not letting the majority shame or otherize them. The the majority freaks out and responses with "ME TO BUT BETTER THAN YOU DID IT!".

It's pathetic.

systemglitch ,

So your saying I can be proud to be white then?

fustigation769curtain ,

You can be proud about anything.

Most people are proud to be useful idiots, for example.

systemglitch ,

Ahh that's me then!

Sweetpeaches69 ,

I agree with your statement, but I would like to point out that "as if you did anything to become a heterosexual" is... Yikes. That implies the LGBTQ+ community is not born how they are and have to do work to become lesbian, gay, bi, etc.

Diction is important; while that doesn't ruin the overall argument for me because I am an ally, I don't think that's something to say going forward because it's very easy to latch onto and discredit the argument as a whole.

96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

I actually meant that as: as if you did anything to become a heterosexual/homosexual/any-kind-of-sexuality.

Daerun ,

No women in sight 🤔

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Ain't no women proud of being straight. "I have to put up with dudes to get off 💪" - nobody ever

Luminocta ,

Go speak for yourself maybe?

franklin ,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

These people are douches but that's a really toxic attitude

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I wish tone carried better in text, it was not written in earnest. But if you have to explain or defend a joke it's not a good one, so I apologize.

franklin ,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

it happens, sorry I misunderstood your intent

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes I forget that when I'm writing, you can't see that I'm the butt of my own jokes

Carlo ,

The vast majority of the tags I make for users on here are negative, so it's always a pleasure to buck that trend. Thanks for your good humaning.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks, it's hard! 🤪

Shyfer ,

I thought that it was a pretty good, obvious joke. People are too sensitive or here sometimes.

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Megustalations. I like to take risks, but I try not to make it someone else's problem either

fustigation769curtain ,

They're probably at home or out shopping.

Blackmist ,

But they're at least standing nice and far apart to make sure no parts of them accidentally touch and turn gay.

Kusimulkku ,

I didn't know we had one

Stern ,
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

The one I knew of was monochrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_flag

Kusimulkku ,

Those flags look like shit imo. That article is quite something though

In 2019, the American organization Super Happy Fun America led a straight pride parade in Boston, in the United States, in August of the same year

Super Happy Fun America

Super Happy Fun America (SHFA) is a Massachusetts-based right-wing political organization. SHFA and its leaders are known for their ties to white nationalism and the far-right

That name and logo combined with that description, wow

In 2021, a social media trend called "super straight" emerged on TikTok on 21 February and later spread to other websites like 4chan, Reddit and Twitter. Supporters stated that "super straight" was a new sexuality describing heterosexuals who would never have a sexual relationship with transgender people. Its originator said he created the term because he was tired of being called transphobic.

From TikTok to 4chan. Future is now, old man.

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Its originator said he created the term because he was tired of being called transphobic.

Yep, definitely the only sane response to being called transphobic because he couldn't keep his shitty opinions to himself.

Kusimulkku ,

The logic astounds me.

schmorpel ,
@schmorpel@slrpnk.net avatar

Who is writing this timeline - please stop it's insane! I want more kittens, less 4chan gay flag waving idiot nazis.

HowManyNimons ,

Murdoch is. Come on. You knew that.

exocrinous ,

I have this new philosophy called super humanism. It's where I support people's human rights, except for fascist pieces of shit like the guy who came up with super straight.

jupiter_jazz ,

Super duper straight lol

PiratePanPan ,

God, I remember arguing with a dude on Xitter who identified as a super bisexual, because he somehow couldn't see how idiotic it was.

rottingleaf ,

It looks Breton

Guntrigger ,

Oh I didn't realise we were testing our contrast today.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

"We" didn't. I hope you don't identify with the people needing this flag.

Kusimulkku ,

"We" meaning straight people.

RizzRustbolt ,

Gold?

You idiots! There's nothing gayer than gold!

LesserAbe ,

What would be a good straight flag that also follows vexillology best practices?

GlendatheGayWitch ,

That's not the straight flag. The straight flag is horizontal black and white stripes and has been around for about 20 years.

The ally flag is the straight flag with a rainbow "A" on it. If you've been to Pride, you have probably seen flags or pins with that design.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_flag#:~:text=A%20flag%20composed%20of%20alternating,originating%20in%20the%20early%202000s.

Prunebutt ,

Looks like some old school prison jumpers.

rottingleaf ,

Like "being a bitch is gay, being on the other side of relationship is straight"? I mean, checks out

exocrinous ,

AKA the hamburglar's costume

SuddenDownpour ,

I'm straight and I disavow this flag because it's fucking boring.

DillyDaily ,

I'm on the asexual spectrum and I would also like to complain about our flag. The single purple stripe does not make up for the white and grey.

Fortunately I'm biromantic so I'm using the bisexual flag because at least it's pretty.

I'm also agender, that flag is really rare to see in the wild, but I'd like to complain about it too.

I don't get to have a sexuality, a gender, or a cool flag. How unfair!

Guntrigger ,

You should make your own bespoke cool flag.

HowManyNimons ,

I know, right! Two words into Google would have saved them this embarrassment.

mindbleach ,

Sounds like all of those are proposed by bigots.

some_guy ,

Let's beat them up for kissing girls. Who am I kidding. These guys can't get self-respecting women.

Cipher22 ,

I'm confused at why an LGBTQ community wouldn't take the strategy of forceful adoption. Mostly under the point that they offer a home to all. However, it would negate any exclusion arguments against those communities.

Take your adversaries symbols and make them yours kinda thing. A Yankee Doodle approach.

"Where's muh straight flag?"

"Right here sparky."

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Wait, what exactly are you saying we should do?

worldofbirths ,
@worldofbirths@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, please elaborate. I can't tell if I agree or not.

name_NULL111653 ,

The straight flag was made by homophobes... above comment was proposing that we hijack it and make it part of the lgbtq+ community, fly it in pride parades, etc., the same way we turned "queer" from a slur into an identity label.

GlendatheGayWitch ,

The straight flag has been around for quite a while. It's black and white horizontal stripes. The ally flag is the straight flag with a rainbow "A" on it.

These guys in the picutre didn't bother doing any research evidently and started flying the wrong flag.

Mycatiskai ,

The two guys holding up the straight pride flag look like they unhappily fuck their wives at home once every quarter to prove that they don't love the cocks that they shamefully suck every weekend.

Omega_Haxors ,

Toe pride

M500 ,

I always thought it would be funny if “s” was added to “lgbtq” for straight.

Then when someone has a problem with “lgbtqs”, you can be like “you’re not straight?”

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Why is this funny?

name_NULL111653 ,

Makes it really easy to defeat their "you include everyone but us" argument and call homophobes gay at the same time.

M500 ,

Like when a homophobe says they hate lgbtqs, you can respond as if they are saying they hate straight people.

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

That's not worth it at all lol

MeDuViNoX ,
@MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works avatar

2-Spirit already took the S, lol.

yetAnotherUser ,

*in Canada (and perhaps parts of the US? not sure)

Lucidlethargy ,
@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

If I saw this, I'd immediately assume it's a variation on the bi pride flag.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

"Nice flag. So you fellas go both ways?"

deweydecibel ,

Missing the purple, though.

Having only two colors, clearly delineated, makes the flag worthless as a means of conveying anything, so they had to broadcast what it means with big, braindead-obvious symbols.

Frankly, that definitely looks like a straight pride flag, in that it's boring, binary, with absolutely zero sense of style, subtlety, or iconography.

DillyDaily ,

It looks like a flag for transphobic bisexuals who only date cis people who fall firmly within the gender binary.

henfredemars ,

They don't look very proud.

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