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sugar_in_your_tea ,

I just want an inexpensive commuter that gets ~150 miles per charge. I live in a cold climate and I work about 25 miles away, so I need at least 75 miles range on the coldest days. I also want it to be cheaply repairable, so the battery pack needs to be inexpensive to replace.

Tesla isn't offering that, their battery packs are too hard to service and too expensive. So I'm going to keep driving my hybrid until someone makes something to replace it.

Those Chinese sodium-ion batteries look like the perfect solution. Inexpensive, enough range, and less fire risk. My company says they'll be putting in chargers, so I might be willing to go down a bit on range. If Elon wants my business (he probably doesn't), he needs to make a cheap commuter.

ctkatz ,

I wouldn't buy one. good job. elon destroying your brand name.

dog_ ,

Lol

BruceTwarzen ,

All their cars are 25000 dollar evs. They just sell them for 4 times that amount.

Toes ,
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poopkins ,

Whoa, the owner acknowledged that the weather was to blame, not Tesla?!

AlexisFR ,
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Dammit, the idea of a Tesla Hatchback could have been good. But no, they had to make that cyberjoke first...

lipilee ,

that's fine, they have the perfect alternative, the cybertruck. /s

ArtVandalist ,

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  • mouse ,
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    You can block instances. Go to settings, blocks, in block instance section search for the instance that you want to block.

    jecht360 ,
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    I don't think you've actually read any of the comments in this thread. Everything is a legit discussion of EVs and how Musk is handling this. Nobody is bashing China. If anyone is being criticized in this thread, it's Musk.

    SharkAttak ,
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    How can you hate such a perfect country? /s

    Buffalox ,

    All those that claim this market belongs to China, Tesla already has production in China, and can use all the same benefits Chinese companies can. Including government subsidies.

    Benaaasaaas ,

    Outside companies almost never get the same benefits as local ones, that's true even outside of china. Another thing is that china has national interests in chinese carmakers.

    Num10ck ,

    Tesla needs to make a certain substantial profit margin, same problem as Apple's car project. BYD will sell at a loss for years to monopolize like Amazon/Walmart etc.

    whereisk ,

    So long as they keep the Chinese government happy. That's a big lever China has on Musk.

    Corkyskog ,

    China is probably just happy that Musk is Musk. Dude sows enough discord among the US populace without them even asking. Gift horse and all...

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    Chinese companies aren't buying detestable social media platforms and speedrunning them into the ground.

    guacupado ,

    No one's talking about that.

    BallsandBayonets ,

    No, they just create them and make them wildly successful so they have a backdoor in everyone's pocket.

    interdimensionalmeme ,

    Oh so a Tesla

    hark ,
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    BYD has a level of vertical integration far beyond anyone else in the industry.

    istanbullu ,

    You can't beat China on price

    heavy ,

    Musk is a moron and I hope he keeps getting exposed

    Jimmycakes ,

    China gonna dominate that price bracket and lower no need to enter a market you cant compete in

    Buffalox ,

    Tesla makes cars in China too.

    Fedizen ,

    hell I'm pretty sure its impossible to make these cars without some amount of electronics fabricated in china

    Squizzy ,

    Loads of companies do, doesnt mean they can compete at that price point.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Musky can’t make a car that cheap. That’s why.

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    When you get in one this is the price you feel like it should cost though

    tsonfeir ,
    @tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

    I feel that way in all his cars.

    Rai ,

    I know he sucks but after feeling the acceleration of a model 3 I can’t agree with that. I’ve never felt acceleration like that before, or since.

    Corkyskog ,

    That's all it takes for you? Get a motorcycle, all the acceleration you could ever want, at a fraction of the cost. You can go so fast it will feel as if time is slowing.

    Rai ,

    Oh I’m still never buying a Tesla. I’m just saying no cars even CLOSE to 50kUSD have that kind of acceleration, much less 25k.

    That said, no motorcycle. I like being alive.

    TheDude ,
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    They probably aren't stopping planning a model 2, it just ain't gonna cost $25k.

    DingoBilly ,

    So Tesla's entire strategy Elon was working was just abandoned.

    Continues down the pathway that Tesla is just going to fade to irrelevance.

    tsonfeir ,
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    Already has.

    Thorny_Insight ,

    Judging by the amount of their vehicles I'm seeing on the roads I'm suspecting they're going to fade into irrelevance like iPhones have.

    Squizzy ,

    Its not a like for like comparison. People change car brands all the time, there is very little environment or peripherals to be tied to.

    olympicyes ,

    in fairness they did get their charging cord to be made the standard for North America. Not sure what power that confers them but it has to be worth something.

    PriorityMotif ,
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    It happened to Blackberry, everyone had one of those until iPhone came out. IBM used to be the most common PC brand. Everyone used to drive minivans. Markets shift all the time.

    wjrii ,

    Probably couldn't figure out a way to make the '2' serve as a 'Z' in a 1337, sophomoric sex pun, so... that's the end of that project.

    APassenger ,

    S3XZY?

    wjrii ,

    This only serves to make me think you're smarter than Elon Musk.

    jsh ,

    The Tesla Model 2 S3XY
    Soon to be followed by the Model 4 and Model U.

    Corkyskog ,

    Model UwU...

    FTFY

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