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xenspidey ,

I get it, no one likes ads on youtube. But, you realize that they have to pay the people that are producing content as well as pay for the storage space to gold all of this content. Why does everyone think that can just be free?

draughtcyclist ,

Nobody expects it to be free. But it used to operate with far less intrusive ads. Also, people didn't use ad blockers until they got worse.

BruceTwarzen ,

Will someone think off the multi billion dollar company? Anyone? They need to make the bottom line.

xenspidey ,

It does, two on the barrel and on on the top. for me currently it acts as a mouse in Gnome and in krita it acts like a stylus with pressure and everything. My model number is the Dell Active Pen PN579X. it can switch between wacom and Microsoft protocols so it will also work on my Surface.

sturmblast ,

The demise of Youtube begins

thermal_shock ,

there is a plugin I bought, it's community driven where you can tag sections of the video as ad, sponsored, etc, and auto skip it. it's really nice, was like $5. will post when I find the link, but even if ads are server side, this plugin will skip. someone has to bite the bullet though and tag time stamps unfortunately.

found it, called dearrow, also changed clikcbait thumbnails and titles are editable by community.

https://dearrow.ajay.app/

Gestrid ,

That assumes every ad is exactly the same (or at least the same length) and at the same spot for every user.

thermal_shock ,

yeah, I realized it after posting. I don't see ads, I use it to block sponsored stuff and forgot about injected ads. still a great plugin.

You999 ,

Pre roll and post roll ads would be pretty easy to detect since the length of the actual video is fixed. Mid roll ads though will need something more clever.

chemicalwonka ,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

dearrow sponsorblock will not work anymore

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thermal_shock ,

I know, I realized after I posted. but still a cool plugin.

ToyDork ,
@ToyDork@sh.itjust.works avatar

What's the street address of Google again? I'm already homicidally insane, I'll start by burning them TO THE FUCKING GROUND.

Psythik ,

1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy, Mountain View, CA 94043

Duamerthrax ,

Calm down Ms, Aghdam.

meliaesc ,

You'd become a homicidal maniac if youtube makes you pay to remove ads?

UltraGiGaGigantic ,

People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.

You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.

Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.

You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.

– Banksy

exanime ,

Wow this was great... No idea Banksy had published any written work

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

"Art should disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed."

iquanyin ,
@iquanyin@lemmy.world avatar

then i won’t be using it much, if at all.

Lootboblin ,
@Lootboblin@lemmy.world avatar

fuck google.

themeatbridge ,

Right? I already don't use youtube as much as possible. Piped helps, but if that stops working, I just won't watch movies on youtube.

I understand why people are upset anytime a company fucks their customers for money, but the solution is always to walk away.

scarabic ,

“Virtually impossible?” I haven’t had ads on YT in over 6 years, and I don’t even use a blocker or alt client.

Scrollone ,

So what's your trick?

scarabic ,

I pay for YT Premium. It’s 100% worth it based on my very high usage of YT for entertainment and learning. Best streaming service bargain by far. Netflix’s pile of shitty self-made movies is a ripoff by comparison.

skeezix ,

Fuck off, shill

scarabic ,

No need to get vulgar, there, chief. I’m just a satisfied customer who doesn’t understand why watching YT videos has to be such a deathmatch with their engineering team all the time. I’ll bet that the majority of people here get the value from YT that Premium charges for, and a sizable number of people here pay for some streaming service that they actually use less than YT. Yet because YT is a website with a free tier, the arms race of ad blocking / countermeasures is never ending. People wind up hating YT and talking about them like the third reich, when it’s really a service that all of us love and depend on. Shrug?

skeezix ,

Youtube is a festering shithole. Overflowing with the absolute worst kind of clickbait and vacuous content. It brings together everything wrong with society under a single URL. For what little useful content there is youtube should be the one paying visitors to sift through the shit to get to it.

scarabic ,

Your account is a festering shithole. My YT is full of woodworking and gardening tutorials, geopolitics and cosmology explainers, Tolkein lore and a few other fun things I enjoy. I’m sorry yours is not as fulfilling.

moon ,

Don't understand why you didn't just mention that you pay for premium in this comment.

CoffeeJunkie ,

Grayjay!! 🙌🏻

andrewth09 ,

If the YouTube interface restricts you skipping during certain parts of the video, an ad blocker can detect that and skip over it anyway. Otherwise, I myself will just skip over the ad.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Or at the very least detect when you can't skip and mute the tab and put a black box over top of the video.

recapitated ,

It's what they always should have done anyway. I'm not so entitled that I think I should get content delivered absolutely free, but I am entitled enough to sandbox and restrict how many discrete domains my browser windows will talk to.

piracysails ,

Your data is much more valuable than the 13/currency per month. Which btw, if you pay, the do not stop collecting sharing and monetizing on your data.

recapitated ,

Exactly I don't think we're in disagreement. I'm not making a pro-youtube statement here. I just accept that it exists, as they need to accept that I have full control over my hardware. It's up to them to make their business model work for them in that environment, not me.

It's conflict theory.

piracysails ,

I see, thanks for explaining. :)

polle ,

Doubt. Never underestimate the hate and motivation against ads.

Emerald ,

Worse case scenario, we gotta make an extension that detects the ad UI and blanks the screen and mutes the audio until its over

Simulation6 ,

And fast forwards to the end of the ad, if possible

Vaeril ,
@Vaeril@sh.itjust.works avatar

I just found a userscript that mutes, skips, and lets you black out the ads. Worked during my brief test of it. I'll probably use this if adblock or other clients are bricked.

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/9165-auto-close-youtube-ads

Yerbouti ,

Why not use that screen time to promote alternative to YouTube?. Or even a simple Fuck google screen : " insert why google sucks here".

Moneo ,

Because that would just be another ad lol

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

What if we replaced their ads with our ads? What do you mean that defeats the purpose?

Yerbouti ,

Not if it brings people to a user controlled FLOSS platform (Peertube for example ) and make them ditch Youtube. We need to move the viewers and content to FLOSS alternatives so anything that will bring new users is good. Youtube will be the biggest battle IMO. Plus it would be kind of fun to trash Youtube on their own platform. Let's settle for an optional functionality.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Let me simplify this for you: If I'm getting an addon to stop seeing ads, I'm not going to choose an addon that replaces them with other ads. I will choose the addon that doesn't give me ads.

The only people who would even consider such an addon are not the target audience for the ads because they already support it.

Yerbouti ,

What if I offer you an add-on that would promote healthy life-habits instead of black screen? Would you be interested in that? For example, it's important to squeeze the sponge after using it, this would be super useful to remind you about it!That's just an example, there are dozens of small tips like that requires a daily reminder.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

What if I offer you an add-on that would promote healthy life-habits instead of black screen? Would you be interested in that?

No. I want to watch the thing I specifically decided to watch, and not what someone else wants to advertise to me.

Yerbouti ,

Ok hear me out: an add-on that promotes "Watching less youtube!!!!". Isn't that genius? It could be 50/50. 15 seconds of blackscreen for people like you who enjoy starring at it, and 15 seconds of "less screen time" promotion. That way you are frequently reminded that you could do better things with your time. Example : "You have starred at a black screen for XX minutes today. Did you know that a basic ukulele cost around 30$ and you can learn playing by investing as low as 30 minutes per day?" On top of it, I will ad a functionality that let you customize the color of the blackscreen! What do you think, are we getting somewhere or what?

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Ok hear me out: If I am downloading an add-on for the explicit purpose of watching youtube, then I am not interested in being told by the add-on not to use it. If I want to watch less youtube I will, and I know this sounds novel: I will watch less youtube.

If I want helpful life tips I will go look for helpful life tips on my own. If I want to be told youtube sucks then I already know youtube sucks. I don't understand why the fuck, when the entire purpose of me installing an add-on is to block a site from showing me things I didn't ask for, you keep trying to convince me to have the add-on show me things I did not ask for. The defeats the entire fucking purpose of me getting it in the first place.

I have stated this as clearly as I can multiple times. I am done trying to explain it any further.

Yerbouti ,

Ok got you. So you'd rather stare at a black screen for 30 seconds every 5 minutes than switch to an alternative where you can have exactly the same service, but without advertising and where control is based on the user rather than a multi-billion dollar corporation. So you want youtube and nothing else, but you refuse to support youtube. Basically, we're back at good old advertising, were people will pick up their phone during a break and wait for the program to resume. But you don't see things you didn't ask for! One last thing, did you know that "Vinegar is perhaps the best way to clean a toilet tank, as it’s naturally acidic. It removes lime and calcium deposits, and it’s a natural antibacterial. Pour two cups of vinegar into the tank, allow to sit for an hour, scrub, and flush to rinse." You're welcome!!

Microplasticbrain ,

Over the past years I've been reducing my youtube and twitch viewership anyways. Its literally the lowest form of entertainment and its not worth a single moment of ad watching. I'll just do something else. Most youtube content sucks anyways. I don't even remember most of the channels I used to watch.

They're just going to increase their own server costs chasing some tiny fraction of viewers who will do anything to avoid ads. they should be grateful for the adviewers they have.

rwhitisissle ,

Man, you're definitely spot on with this. For me, it's a fast, easy source of superficial distraction that I can put on for background noise and don't have to pay attention to. It's ultimately what cable TV used to be for me. I'll even leave on a streamer playing a game in the background on low volume if I'm going to sleep just for white noise. At this point, the behavior and desire for that kind of content is so ingrained in me that it's sort of like an addiction. I wish there were alternatives to youtube, but that era of video content might just be straight up dying for some of us. I guess if anything I'll start fleshing out my plex server with old t.v. shows and just put Gilligan's Island or something on in the background.

Microplasticbrain ,

Yea, a plex server for idle viewing would be a way better alternative. Just make a custom nickelodeon, comedy central, etc and have it run random episodes of random shows.

Misk ,

I've actually always wanted to do this! Download a load of old school Nickelodeon stabs and episodes and find some software that can play them all together in random order haha... Any advice on how to go about setting this up?

rwhitisissle ,

It's actually built into plex. If you have a library of t.v. shows you can just click the Shuffle button and it'll play random episodes. Or you can make Categories of shows and shuffle those. If you're asking how to get started with Plex and downloading content, well....I don't want to get banned for piracy related reasons, so I'll just say that, totally unrelated to this discussion, there's a wealth of resources regarding how to get started with bittorrent and usenet. Which you can use for perfectly legal purposes, like downloading Liinux ISOs and open source textbooks.

Misk ,

Nah I'm good for Linux ISOs and open source textbooks, just wasn't aware that some of these media players had a shuffle button 😝 thanks folks!

Microplasticbrain ,

Im glad the ther guy responded, because I have no idea, I haven't started plex stuff yet

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I use Jellyfin because it's pretty light weight and straight forward. Just add the shows you want to a playlist, or even just specific seasons, and shuffle play.

Pretzilla ,

Perfect opportunity to reprogram your brain. Put on something healthy like waves on the shore, etc.

VinnyDaCat ,

Its literally the lowest form of entertainment and its not worth a single moment of ad watching.

I'm just curious, but what type of content would you be watching on YouTube?

I think the platform has come a long ways when it comes to content. Sure, if you're just watching gaming content I'd say you'd be disappointed. It's been like that for a decade now at least. There's a lot of decent content on there though with a lot of it even being somewhat educational.

Microplasticbrain ,

My viewership has changed so much over the years. I used to watch stuff like diyperks, primitive technology, this guy kris harbour who built a house with natural materials. When I was coding lots of edu stuff.

Im sure there is a lot of good shit, but I just have less energy to wade through the crap. And the continued attacks on ad blockers makes me less willing to want to find channels and communities I would probably enjoy.

I actually can't stand gaming content cause its just spoilers and gfuel marketing as far as im concerned

VinnyDaCat ,

I see. I simply ask because the platform has changed a lot if you used it a little over a decade ago and I know some people who never got over the transition.

Absolutely understandable that you don't want to spend time looking for anything that might catch your interest though.

Thetimefarm ,

Yeah YouTube's real problem is the recommendations are terrible. It tries to ram the most profitable, lowest common denominator swill down your throat until it gives up and just recommends stuff you've already watched.

IphtashuFitz ,

I'm just curious, but what type of content would you be watching on YouTube?

I literally use it almost exclusively for how-to styles of videos. I had to replace the throttle cable on my riding lawnmower last year. I found an awesome step-by-step video. Stuff like that…

dlpkl ,

Yeah you're right, YouTube just isn't what it used to be. I miss when people made videos for free because they wanted to share something with the world. Now it's a full time job

Flanhare ,

I guess there is a lot of crap on the platform.

But I follow many really really good content creators that put out very high quality content week after week.

I still want to watch their content and I can't subscribe to all of them.

Moneo ,

Nebula

csm10495 ,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

I pay for premium.. but also like my sponsorblock.. and 3rd party clients. Let me have it all momma Google.

Viper_NZ ,

I can’t justify premium. For the same price I can buy for my family:

AppleTV+, Amazon Prime Video and Disney+

Or:

YouTube but without ads

twei ,

Get a VPN and make a quick trip to Turkey or Ukraine where you can get it for about 2€/month

Pretzilla ,

Once you sign up and pay in Türkiye does it just keep working back in your home country?

twei ,

Yes, it's been working for a year now. I set my location back to Germany right after subscribing to premium

madcaesar ,

How do you pay it though? With a US credit card?

Viper_NZ ,

NZD.

AppleTV+ ($14.99, Amazon Prime Video ($10.99) and Disney+ ($14.99) = $40.97 per month

YouTube Premium = $39.99 per month

Pretzilla ,

Sponsorblock is awesome!

Which 3rd party clients are you using?

csm10495 ,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

SmartTube on TV, Revanced on my phone, and the first party website on my computer.

Pretzilla ,

What do those do for you if you already pay for premium?

csm10495 ,
@csm10495@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sponsorblock, return YouTube dislikes and more customization.

bc93 ,

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  • FurtiveFugitive ,

    That's me too. I was a family subscriber for years. Some of those years it was just myself on there too. But the price hikes and interface degrading was infuriating.

    RememberTheApollo_ ,

    I already barely watch YouTube but for a couple people I subscribe to, and I already pay membership for their content so I get no ads. YouTube has already whittled me down to the minimum thanks to their overbearing ad content.

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