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match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

aight

thantik ,

And nothing of value was lost.

muelltonne ,

There are still local governments or police forces announcing important things via Twitter. There are still interesting and smart people posting there. There are all those "legacy" accounts which are not active anymore, but have valuable content. Nitter was the last way to read this and this is now lost.

harry_balzac ,

If they were truly smart they wouldn't be on a site run by a narcissistic right wing billionaire with breeding fantasies that's turned it into a fascist echo chamber rife with CSAM, antisemitism, and disinformation.

Jtotheb , (edited )

If Stephen King wants to share his accumulated wisdom for free with millions of readers, hopeful artists, random people on the street who’ve never heard of him, what is the best way to reach them? Start a blog that will never show up in any search results behind the pages of machine-generated SEO junk about how they have answers for “Stephen King blog”, right? Because then he had zero impact but retains the moral high ground.

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

People talk where people are.

HarkMahlberg ,
@HarkMahlberg@kbin.social avatar

I wish network effects weren't a self fulfilling prophecy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, but they are on that site, which is why Nitter has been so useful.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

It's not so simple. A lot of people aren't there because they like Elon Musk, they're there because people they like having discussions with are there. And those people are there for the same reason.

It's sort of like a phone company that doesn't allow customers that are on other phone companies. You have to be on the same phone company as your fiends or you can't call them. You can't change to another phone company because you won't be able to call your friends anymore. You'd be stuck because the phone company owns your ability to connect to other people. They own your contacts list.

Fortunately there's regulations to prevent phone companies from doing this, they are required to interconnect. This means you can change to another phone company, and many places you can keep your phone number, so you can do this without your friends even knowing.

There are no such regulations for social media. So Elon Musk bought people's contact lists on Twitter. People can't change platforms because Elon Musk owns people's ability to connect with other people. And because contacts aren't closed groups (people don't have all the same contacts as each other) it's basically impossible to organize an effort where everyone moves to another platform. That would involve organizing nearly everyone on the platform to do it at the same time. It's not really all that feasible to organize hundreds of millions of people that don't really agree with each other on anything to abandon a platform all at once.

But there's been a steady decline in users since Musk took over. Eventually maybe another platform will reach critical mass and there could be a massive number of people go to that platform. Happened with Myspace, Digg, etc. But really social media platfroms should be required by law to interoperate so if a company is well run there's less of a barrier to entry for another company to step in and take over. But that would be something like free market capitalism, and the heads of corporations don't actually want that despite what they say.

brbposting ,

True intelligence demands specific moral cost-benefit calculations?

long_chicken_boat ,

I totally agree on the usefulness of Nitter, but hell, imagine following your police force on social media. Like they don't have enough with oppressing you, they also want to feed you their bullshit.

antonim ,

At this point I'm impressed by how much effort Twitter devs must've have put into making the site shittier and less accessible.

laurelraven ,

Wait, they still have devs? I thought they fired all of them already...

THEDAEMON ,

AI devs if you will

morrowind OP ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Not much, most of this is due to them closing down things. And I wouldn't blame the developers for the business decisions

clot27 ,
@clot27@lemm.ee avatar

Elon can go fuck himself

elonmusk ,

Yes, I can! 😂

Good_morning ,

Probably one of the easiest bettlejuicing accounts around these days I'd wager

darganon ,

By percent I bet the amount of people using nitter is miniscule, meaning Twitter spent a lot of time making sure a small amount of people can't access the tweets.

cmnybo ,

There was probably a large number of bots using the same method that nitter uses to scrape data.

_wizard ,
@_wizard@lemmy.world avatar

It was how I scraped.

Speculater , (edited )
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no

Edit: Jesus people, /s
Y'all are dense sometimes.

antonim ,

That's not how sarcasm works.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

It's literally the first half of a meme, "Oh no, so anyway."

Aaron ,

I think the part you're missing is that Nitter is actually a valuable service to some of us.

sir_reginald ,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

everyone got your "sarcasm". you're the one being dense here. Nitter was a useful tool for those who have left twitter but needed to access information posted there. It didn't benefit Twitter in anyway, so there was 0 downsides in using it.

the fact that you make fun of a useful community tool shutting down is why you're deservedly being downvoted to hell

akilou ,

There's no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account

Thank God. Maybe news articles will stop embedding tweets in articles.

hemko ,

I don't know, at least in Finnish news I see constantly broken embeds with "view in Instagram/twitter whatever" no matter how closed those are... :(

USSEthernet ,

Privacy badger hides tweets in articles completely. I love it.

akilou ,

So does whatever extension I have but I don't love it. I don't want the article to cite it at all

Aaron ,

You can still see Tweet embeds. And you can still look at the specific Tweet on Twitter. But you can't see any replies. Or sometimes just a few old ones.

squirrelwithnut ,

TIL about Nitter.

morrowind OP ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Unfortunate you had to learn about it today mate

kilgore_trout ,
@kilgore_trout@feddit.it avatar

Too late

philodendron ,

Dang nitter was getting better too. Can’t say I’m surprised though with the way X has been going

lone_faerie ,

I wish less people used Twitter. Like my city exclusively communicates through Twitter

ALostInquirer ,

They're not also locked into Facebook? It seems like far too many public services communicate through these non-public platforms (i.e. often more easily viewed or sometimes only viewable with an account).

stratosfear ,

To be fair, before all this nonsense, this is what made Twitter unique and important. Twitter was the one way through social media "the average Joe" could be heard on the public stage. No normal person is getting time on the news.

Because of its short format the message had to be simple and concise, which made it special in the social media space. Someone saying something about a current event and then the "semi-democratization" process of being shared and liked or whatever the mechanism was (never was a user), and that message then making it into the news media, was a good thing. It actually was an opportunity for normal people to have a voice. And not just for Americans but for people in other countries who have even less of a voice.

Which is why the current events are so ironic, all of that being ruined, in the name of the billionaire morons claim of "free speech platform." He couldn't even see the perspective I'm coming from because he has a path to the public stage.

https://youtu.be/CcSh2F8e__8

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

What the shit is/was Nitter? Sorry I can't seem to keep up.

wewbull ,

A way of reading twitter posts without needing to go to twitter. Particularly useful since you now need an account to see twitter posts.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Thanks, I guess I never tried reading a twit post to learn of the issue.

JohnDClay ,

It was also helpful for getting links to Twitter pics and vids to embed here.

Aaron ,

It's a private front-end service. So you can see Twitter posts without logging in or giving them your data. They obviously don't like that.

JustUseMint ,

Do FOSS apps like Squawker rely on the same api I wonder

chrishazfun ,
@chrishazfun@lemmy.world avatar

It's been acting up the last two weeks so it seems like it does, tried the upstream version and even thats acting up, I think this is it.

JustUseMint ,

I figured, it certainly didn't work on magic. That's a shame, a lot of shit it reported on Twitter and I refuse to use an account.

NicoCharrua ,
@NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca avatar

It's acting up, so the feed doesn't work, but if you go to the profile of someone you already subscribed to you can kinda see their posts? It's weird

duplexsystem ,

There is yet hope https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-1913513693

hal_5700X ,
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

https://nitter.d420.de is the old instance uptime & health checks site. https://status.d420.de/ is the new one.

AeonFelis ,

Normalize not caring about anything posted on TwitteX.

NegativeInf ,

Normalize an open web without silos.

Aaron ,

That would be great if other important people stopped posting important information there.

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