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Brkdncr , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

At this point, I have lost count of the number of times that I've left my perfectly working Windows computer at the end of my work day, only to return to a completely broken computer that won't boot the next morning.

I find this to either be a lie or self inflicted. I manage a small fleet of a few hundred windows systems and all updates have been fine for years.

In the windows admin user groups there are more than a few that are deploying updates within 24hrs of release to thousands of servers and workstations and have not reported issues.

Lastly I think that tech bloggers say things like this to get clicks, so they can get ad revenue. Then they also tell you how to disable updates so they can get more clicks and ad revenue.

It’s disingenuous and probably harmful to be telling people to disable updates that lead them to be exposed to vulnerabilities.

atrielienz ,

The interesting thing for me is that I own two different surface pro 7 tablets. I have one for work and one for home (now that work doesn't require me to bring my own device anymore). The work surface has windows 10 pro on it. My home one doesn't, The difference is very interesting. The IT team have disabled a lot of stuff on my work surface that I don't even have access to on my home unit. I don't often have bugs from updates breaking things at work. I do at home though which is enough for me to perhaps upgrade the windows key on my home unit someday. If I don't install linux first which is a possibility.

just_another_person ,

That's the difference between the Home and Pro versions though. The things that generally break on the Home versions are all the things not generally enabled on a domain controlled Pro version. Thisbis more about Microsoft just being bad at small updates versus these giant roundup packages they like to ship.

Brkdncr ,

What things? Home just doesn’t have GPO as far as I know.

bizarroland ,

It's kind of disingenuous of you to proudly say, "I don't use the same version of Windows that this person likely does and I don't have the same issues that this person does so they must be full of shit".

Brkdncr ,

There aren’t many versions of windows since 10 and 2016. They are all very similar now.

bizarroland ,

There are vast differences between Windows home and Windows pro and Windows Enterprise editions as far as how easy it is to control and block off the annoyance ware that Microsoft builds into it.

If you use deployment software to roll out your images after standardizing them and have a set image that you can deploy to a thousand computers as easily as one then it's very simple to sign in with a local domain account and disable the windows things through a group policy and just start rocking and rolling whereas your average Windows home user is not going to even have access to GPO and we'll have to tediously for each and every single computer every single time they reset it redo all of the things to disable all of Microsoft's crap activation.

They are not entirely different but definitely distinct versions of Windows and dismissing the home and non-enterprise users that their experience is inferior to your experience on the Enterprise side is what I'm saying is disingenuous

Brkdncr ,

I’ve found the more you mess with defaults the more likely you’ll encounter problems.

The article author was talking about their work PC anyways.

Gpo/Intune just allows you make mistakes at scale.

The author was talking about their work computer suddenly not booting up the next day. The windows version differences wouldn’t cause this.

Zorque , (edited )

It's kind of a wide disparity for something that's so locked down, though. It's not as though one person is saying they get occasional issues and the other is they often have issues... it's one person basically saying their own personal computer is nigh unusable and the other providing an example of a large number of examples of that being extremely unlikely...

It's far more likely this individual is fucking up their computer on a regular basis, or has a very high bar of usability that is broken any time there is even the slightest hiccup or inconvenience.

morrowind ,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Seriously, anytime people make complaints like these about windows, it just tells me they are either

  1. Tweaking their system in ways far beyond what the OS is designed for (which is fine, but then don't blame Microsoft when updates break your system)
  2. Doesn't know how to use a computer
  3. Knows how to use a computer but is willfully ignorant so they can rant at MS and get clicks
  4. Incredibly unlucky and not representative of the general population
sunzu ,

Tweaking their system in ways far beyond what the OS is designed for

That's the issue: the way microshit is taking windows is not acceptable for an increasing number of people.

Why would I allow Satya the creep to control my PC that I paid money for.

Also, why are they putting ads into it.

Updates rolling back privacy settings, although this stopped now.

Forced online accounts.

At what point is it too much for you? I bet over next few years microshit will get to you too lol

micka190 ,

While I agree with most of what you're saying, it's also stupid to blame Microsoft for breaking your computer if you forcefully uninstall the Windows store, despite the fact that it's needed for parts of certain updates.

A lot of the "debloaters" have no fucking idea what they're actually doing and are uninstalling/disabling critical parts of the OS so the task manager shows less RAM usage (because God forbid you actually use your damn RAM).

sunzu , (edited )

Yeah they just need to accept their fate and join Linux.

At some point, fucking with Windows is more time and you have to be always doing it.

Linux you have set it up but after that it just works

treadful ,
@treadful@lemmy.zip avatar

The thing that usually kills windows is shitty drivers. So people with different hardware can have completely different experiences.

twinnie ,

I hate Windows for all the monetisation and privacy issues but I never really had problems with it killing my computer.

sunzu ,

A future Linux enjoyer spotted

Lost_My_Mind ,

Not everyone likes Linux.

SeekPie ,

Why wouldn't you?

Lost_My_Mind ,

Hard to figure out. Have to settle for similar but different apps. Video drivers not built in. Inconsistant bluetooth. Update all breaks everything. Hard to get support for your individual set-up when Linux is so fractured.

Just to name a few.

SeekPie , (edited )

Hard to figure out

Which part? The one where to install an app, instead of downloading a .exe you search for the app in the package manager?

Have to settle for similar but different apps.

That's not exclusive to Linux though. Like for example moving to MacOS you wouldn't really expect for all the apps to work either?

Video drivers not built in.

Video drivers aren't built into Windows either? And on Linux, AMD's drivers are (as I understand it), and for Nvidia, you'll probably have Noveau installed.

Inconsistent bluetooth.

How? I've found BT to just work on Linux, while on Windows I had to track down the specific drivers.

Update all breaks everything.

Unless you installed Arch (or any rolling release distro) as your first distro, this probably won't be an issue.

Hard to get support for your individual set-up when Linux is so fractured.

Then maybe install Mint, Ubuntu, Pop!_OS or anything more widespread that does have the support you want?

Lost_My_Mind ,

Ah, I see. So because YOU understand something, and know what you're doing, and haven't had anything fail on YOU, then it must be everybody ELSES fault, right? Meanwhile Linux has less than 5% of PC userbase, and that INCLUDES Chromebooks.

I don't think it's even fairly controversial to say that Windows over the last couple of versions have turned into an unmitigated privacy dumpster fire, and only looking to get worse, and MacOS is and always has been a walled garden which offers very little in the way of customization or individuality.

Yet despite all that, Linux only has about 4% marketshare, because nobody is able to use it. But hey, must be 95% of societys fault, and not the direct result of a confusing to use interface, right? And if YOUR bluetooth works fine, and doesn't refuse to connect at random until you restart, that must be something I'm making up and doesn't exist, right?

blind3rdeye ,

Man. That's some weak-sauce arguments against linux. In my experience, just a default Mint install with no stuffing around of any kind came with fully-functional video drivers and bluetooth. No update has ever broken anything; and the first thing that launches after a fresh install is a menu with bunch of different ways to get personal support for Mint.

nexussapphire ,

I don't like Ubuntu that much but one thing they really do right is a tool that made installing the few drivers not built into the kernel stupid easy. That's the number one thing I see people mess up with Nvidia drivers. You always install Nvidia drivers through your distro app store/package manager never the website.

I understand the mistake but it's painful to see someone manually install Nvidia drivers from their website just for it to shit the bed in a kernel update.

I'm sure the update manager was probably very important back in the day but I am glad updates come through the software manager now. Even though I don't use it it's very intuitive.

Lost_My_Mind ,

When I installed Mint my entire video screen was tinted blue. Bluetooth sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. People yelled at me for having a Dell PC in support forums, and when I followed the advice of someone trying to help, he suggested to update all, and when I did the fans stopped working.

blind3rdeye , (edited )

Hmm. I'd be interested to see that. I just did a brief search of the support forum for your post, but didn't find it. Perhaps you can post the link here. Your account history will have it.

Lost_My_Mind ,

This was 10 years ago on the mint forums. My username would have probably been Lost-My-Mind unless the forum disallowed special characters. In which case it's LostMyMind, and if that was taken when I signed up, it was LostMyMlnd (using a lowercase L instead of an i)

roguetrick ,

Did you ever find your mind btw?

Lost_My_Mind ,

If anything, the last 8 years has made it worse! I've had this handle since 2001, and BIG HAT since 1997. But BIG HAT became increasingly harder and harder to get screen names of.

blind3rdeye ,

I didn't find it. Maybe forum doesn't go that far back. 10 years is a long time in computer software. I guess probably a lot has changed since then.

TheGrandNagus ,

Huh. I find windows way harder to figure out. I guess it depends on DE, but Windows is kinda just layers of cruft, with old confusing menus mixed with newer ones, installing apps in particular is a confusing mess.

Updates breaking things I guess depends on distro. If you go with something like Arch you're gonna have a bad time, but that's on you for installing Arch. If you installed Debian or something, stuff will break faaaar less often than with Windows.

Video drivers not being built in is an odd one, because... they aren't in Windows, but are in Linux, assuming you use AMD or Intel. With Nvidia it's usually a case of typing in "Nvidia" in your software centre, clicking install, then being done.

Support can be hard or easy, that's very true. Although most stuff I see in terms of windows support is "have you tried a system restore? Oh it didn't work? Ok reinstall Windows then", which isn't very helpful at all.

jinarched , (edited )
@jinarched@lemm.ee avatar

Hard to figure out.

It's much easier nowadays. I find Windows much more hard to figure out now that I've made the switch. At the very least, everything in Linux takes very few steps to perform tasks and install programs compared to Windows.

Have to settle for similar but different apps.

The sooner you do it, the faster you'll be free. Once you do, you can be confident that said program won't undergo enshitification since it's open source. That said some apps can't be replaced like Photoshop if it's for work. I like Gimp, but I understand it's not for everyone.

Video drivers not built in.

It pretty much is now if you install an Nvidia specific distro. AMD is preferable of course.

Inconsistant bluetooth.

Totally fair.

Update all breaks everything.

Use a rolling release distro like Debian or Fedora and you should be fine.

Linux is not perfect, but it's better than Windows. Nobody will force you to use your computer in a way you don't want to. It's so awesome and it's free. There is no way I'll ever go back to Windows. Linux is the ideal OS for so many people (especially those who go the extra mile to modify Windows heavily) they just don't know it yet.

Freefall ,

I LOVE Linux and I am still to lazy to use it on my gaming PC... normal folks don't want anything to do with it. Effort is an allergen.

sunzu ,

what afford is there with steam?

but yeah if it is not steam, fair

A_Random_Idiot ,
@A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world avatar

I had a Windows 10 update fuck up my laptop for about 15 hours until it somehow magically unfucked itself and started working again once.

But thats about it

xavier666 , (edited )
@xavier666@lemm.ee avatar

The primary issues that I faced with Windows (Win10 nearly a decade ago) are

  • very slow updates
  • constant 100% disk usage after boot
  • high background process usage
  • [Rare] messing with my dual partition setup
  • The final error which caused me to format my PC -> After logging in, the desktop froze, no icons showing up, no task manager.

If I had never used Linux, these wouldn't even seem like problem; just normal Windows shenanigans. But after using Linux, I can never go back. I don't know how much worse/better Win11 is now but can't be bothered to try.

JTheFox ,
@JTheFox@lemmy.world avatar

My biggest issue with Windows (at least on my desktop) is with my GPU driver for my Intel Arc A770 LE. Windows Update will not stop automatically “updating” my driver to a driver that was made about a year and a half ago. It’s too old that Intel Arc Control doesn’t even work with it. It doesn’t matter how I install the latest driver from Intel, I can DDU the old one, install the driver and wipe all custom configurations or just install it normally. Nothing works, upon the next reboot, it automatically says “there’s an update” and installs regardless if I want it or not. The driver installation also has a 50/50 chance of blue screening my whole system when installing, both the installation from Windows update, and from Intel. The Window driver “updates” for my driver have also just happened randomly with no notice, they’ve occurred during hour long Blender renders, crashing it and wasting hours of my time redoing work. (This is all on Windows 10). It is frustrating to deal with

Meanwhile, my Linux install on the same computer just runs mesa and I’ve had no issues at all with my GPU. (Or any issues with drivers really, it all just works).

Although it didn’t “kill” my computer. Whenever I still used Windows, it would spontaneously install this outdated driver which would either blue screen or crash whatever I was in the middle of doing such as working in Blender, playing a game, etc.

mox ,

I find this to either be a lie or self inflicted.

"I've never experienced what you describe, so it must be either imagined or your own fault."

I've seen this nonsense over and over again in communities of all kinds, most often in tech forums (where there are always a few participants suffering from a big-fish-little-pond effect). It's a very rude and foolish bit of human behavior.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Brkdncr ,

Not just me, many others.

kava ,

I think the guy you're replying to is probably right, just because you can tell from the article the author is not really an expert or advanced user.

But I upvoted you because honestly we do not get enough random Shakespeare on online comments lol

Virkkunen ,
@Virkkunen@fedia.io avatar

My two cents, I could say the same as the author. My Windows work laptop most of the times cannot wake up from sleep (you know, opening the lid after it's closed) so I have to force a restart. There's a 50% or less chance that Bluetooth and WiFi won't work at all (they won't be displayed on Windows, like it's not even a feature) after I turn the laptop on, so most of my pre-work morning is restarting the laptop until it's working as intended. It's the third laptop I got from them, they're different models but they're all HP, and they all had problems. The Macs and the same HP laptops running Linux have none of these issues.

AlexanderESmith ,
@AlexanderESmith@social.alexanderesmith.com avatar

It's not harmful to tell average people who run windows to disable updates, because you can't disable the updates as a single-license scrub.

(Theres usually some hacky bullshit to delay or block updates, but they break constantly and you have to keep finding new ones, because Microsoft thinks of their userbase as stupid babies who can't be trusted with their own hardware).

Also, you live in your own personal slice of Windows control with your hundreds/thousands of systems being managed with group policies. I have no doubt that you don't see issues, because your company chose a few models of laptop or desktop and know how they'll react to the updates. You can turn off the annoying shit, and choose specific updates at specific times. Microsoft doesn't want to piss off their corporate customers, especially the ones with massive spending contracts with Dell/HP/Lenovo.

Thing is, outside of you - and your groups of other corporate windows admins - the general user (with varied hardware/software configurations) don't have the safety of catching issues on a few test machines and delaying a deploy to the fleet, or even the option to delay updates at all, and they're screwed over constantly by random broken drivers, system setting that aren't respected between updates, and bloat/backdoors that you can't opt out of.

It is you who is being disingenuous, by suggesting that the windows update system has no flaws, because you operate in an extremely controlled environment with tons of safeguards and - ironically - way more autonomy.

Brkdncr ,

My personal devices haven’t had the issues described either and I install a lot of different software and hardware. I’ve also supported a lot of friends and family. I didn’t want to bog down my comment with my own blog post.

ashok36 ,

I can kind of feel the author on this. I'm in charge of a lot of "special projects" at work that basically come down to, "figure out a way to replicate this extremely expensive technology or software using low cost or free alternatives". It ends up being an unholy mix of programs and hardware that is held together with duct tape and super glue and any minor perturbation means something breaks.

Zorque ,

Sounds like less of a Windows problem than an individual problem, though.

Blaming Windows cause your Frankenstein machine breaks often is disingenuous.

ashok36 ,

I'm not passing blame. Just giving an example.

uranibaba ,

It’s disingenuous and probably harmful to be telling people to disable updates that lead them to be exposed to vulnerabilities.

That is probably why Microsoft forced updates on people in W10.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There have been two distinct Windows updates in recent memory that have broken things.

  1. The one that stopped network printers from working, and you had to change a specific GPO setting which was not available in Intune at the time, meaning I had to do it manually on each computer.

  2. The one that removed all shortcuts to Office 365 apps from the desktop and start menu, necessitating a repair... manually on each affected machine.

So it does happen on occasion. It's not as bad as in the XP days, but it still can be a little sketchy at times

Brkdncr ,

Odd, i didn’t need to address either of these.

I would have scripted it for Intune.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This was before proactive remediations were a thing. Script probably would've worked, although I find them a bit vague as to how they work

TheGrandNagus ,

I had an update completely brick my webcam, and another that fucked up my audio (but eventually got fixed months later).

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Oh yes, I remember the audio one, too!

AceSLS ,

Doesn't even need updates, in the 10 years I was on Windows it didn't want to start after shutting it down again like 7 times

I hated having to reinstall every year

user1234 , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
chemicalwonka ,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

PERFECT!

LodeMike , (edited )

I don't understand why this meme [template] exists. Did they rocket this guy up there to shoot him? Why would be be in space if he couldn't be trusted with the truth?

user1234 , (edited )

I think the original showed the earth being a flat disk and the first astronaut says "it's really flat?" And the second one says "always has been". But is about to shoot him to keep the knowledge of it safe from the masses.

But in this case, the one with the gun is Microsoft.

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

It is? I remembered the original as the continent being a giant Idaho and the first astronaut asks "it's all Idaho?"

user1234 ,
LodeMike ,

Yes and why the fuck would someone like that be flown into space

user1234 ,

It's a meme.

Aceticon , (edited ) to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

Thanks in party to the spirit in Lemmy (thanks guys and gals) and getting pissed off at the ever more enshittification, I really went full-on on taking back control, and I don't mean just changing my home PC (mainly used for Gaming) from Windows to Linux, but also replacing the TV Box that's bundled with my ISP subscription (and will be changing ISP when the current contract is over) with my own Mini-PC with Lubunto and Kodi (which is also my Torrenting host with an always-on VPN and my home's NAS) replacing the original Samsung Android (which had been bloated due to updates to the point of filling up all memory) of my aging tablet, with LineageOS and even doing the same on my brand new Smartphone.

Granted, I've always had the spirit of avoiding "smarts" in stuff that doesn't need it - like TVs - but now I went and as much as possible took back control on even the stuff that does need "smarts".

So far I'm quite happy with it all: I've maintained (improved, even, such as my Tablet now having more available memory) my level of Tech access whilst cutting of the ways in which companies exploited my time and patience for advertising money - I definitely feel I'm better now than before: a lot of things became more convenient and less restricted than they were before.

Things are becoming really bad out there when it comes to treating customers as cattle to be milked and I reckon that the only future were Tech is actually a pleasure to use for users is for those people who take control back from the corps on all of their devices.

mrvictory1 ,

doing the same on my brand new Smartphone

Watch out, rooting a phone may have unexpected consequences, like losing LTE on Samsungs or losing access to banking apps.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

You don't lose banking apps, banks lose you

ciberConas3000 ,

I'd like to leave a warning for anyone working with Uber or Lyft as well, a friend of mine flashed his phone with a custom ROM and couldn't work for a week until I managed to reflash the original ROM on it.

It took a while cause his phone was from a not so well known brand and it took a lot of hours on russian forums to find the stock ROM.

Aceticon , (edited )

Well, that phone is a Xiaomi, not a Samsung (who had already made my shit list some years ago thanks to all their bloat), and the new ROM is just a bloat free MIUI, so from the same maker as the phone.

And yeah, as somebody else mentioned, if the banking app stopped working it would be the bank losing me - it wouldn't be the first time I changed banks because they pissed me off.

Retail banking as a service is a commodity - they're pretty much all the same - so sticking or not with a bank should be something one does based on cost and convenience and a banking app that doesn't work on my phone reduces convenience.

As it so happens my banking app works fine.

That said, your alert can be important for other people and points one more reason to avoid Samsung like the plague.

rozodru ,

also thanks to lemmy I made the switch from Windows to Linux and I'll never go back.

What distro did you settle on for your PC?

Aceticon , (edited )

Since that machine is mostly for gaming, I went with Pop OS!

kittenzrulz123 , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

Let's be honest, very few people who talk about how much they hate Microsoft will even consider alternatives

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

Doesn't apply to the author here, so I don't understand why you brought it up?

KomfortablesKissen ,

Most people believe they will start seeing problems where there were none before. They need to invest time into research about their use-cases, which is a cost even before switching.

The typical user used Windows since before they became scared of change, so that's what they'll stick with.

The pain of using Windows still can and will be higher without the majority of people switching to anything.

midimalist ,
@midimalist@lemdro.id avatar

Yes, because I need Adobe to do my meh wage part-time job in developing country from my one and only working laptop and I don't have the luxury of surplus money, time, and mental energy to do anything about it.

But I get your point. If I have the means, I will fix my broken Thinkpad and definitely install Linux there the first chance I get. Either that or Adobe finally release Linux version, which will probably be released after Half-Life 3.

I can't wait to try Endeavor (so I can finally be an obnoxious person who say "I used Arch^-based^ ^distro^, btw")

Ensign_Crab , (edited )

Either that or Adobe finally release Linux version, which will probably be released after Half-Life 3.

Yeah, I've seen what Adobe's support looks like. I remember the Linux version of Flash Player. The guy in charge of it whined on the official Adobe blog on the subject that he had to support "minority browsers" which at the time was everything but Internet Explorer on Windows.

rozodru ,

you could always duel boot or VM for your adobe stuff.

areyouevenreal ,

You can run adobe products on Linux with Wine.

UntitledQuitting ,

I’m not allowed to do my full-time job from any other computer besides the windows one assigned to me.

Excrubulent , (edited )
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

It's not a failure to consider the alternatives that slows adoption, it is the very real material problems with those alternatives.

It's not fair that a multinational corporation gets to wield virtually limitless power to starve the alternatives of oxygen and create as much friction as possible in the process of switching, but it is a very real problem, and blaming the users won't solve anything.

jsonjson ,

I used to help maintain a Linux distro, and there is a level of polish Windows has that I feel cannot be reached by the FOSS ecosystem due the resources dumped into hiring dedicated teams at MS. Microsoft has tons of money. I'm sad about the direction of windows, but it generally works pretty well for how it's designed (which is in some cases awful).

ForgottenFlux OP , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

Summary:

  • The author expresses dissatisfaction with the commercial and impersonal feel of modern Windows operating systems.
  • Past versions of Windows were disconnected and resilient, providing a more personal user experience.
  • Advertising integration in Windows has made it feel cheaper and less user-friendly.
  • Updates, intrusive changes, settings modifications, and lack of control are common issues plaguing modern Windows systems.
  • The author compares the current Windows experience to the offline glory days of Windows, highlighting the shift in user experience.
  • Windows now includes advertising, which some users find intrusive and unwanted.
  • Updates on Windows often lead to issues, with users experiencing broken computers after updates.
  • Users complain about settings changing after updates, impacting their preferences and privacy settings.
  • The author switched to macOS due to technical issues with Windows updates, appreciating the user experience on macOS.
  • Linux is praised for respecting its users by providing the operating system for free without intrusive ads.
  • The author hopes for a future version of Windows that offers more user control and less interference from Microsoft's software-as-a-service products.
skillissuer ,
@skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

did chatgpt wrote that for you

subignition ,
@subignition@fedia.io avatar

very obviously yes. Twice as many bullet points as a human would put in a summary, passive voice, and "the author xxx" are all telltale signs

barsquid ,

TIL nobody in academia is human.

tootoughtoremember ,

The author hopes for a future version of Windows that offers more user control and less interference from Microsoft's software-as-a-service products.

Currently there is zero incentive for Microsoft to do this, and only upside potential to keep doing what they're doing.

You'd need thousands of companies to abandon their dependency on Windows, Office, and the entire Microsoft ecosystem for them to change course now.

lung , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
@lung@lemmy.world avatar

I just got a new laptop and was genuinely gonna try windows 11 and wsl for my coding needs. But in first boot, it demands internet to do updates. Ok, I connect to coffee shop wifi. Nope, won't do it because it can't handle the click through screen to accept wifi ToS. Fine. I take it home, where my Internet is great but has a glitch where it drops out for a few seconds now and then. Turns out that windows will literally cancel updating and demand I reconnect and restart for the kind of drop that I barely notice day to day. So I gave up, plugged in my ArchLinux thumb drive, and mkfs.ext4 before rsyncing my entire old computer to it

nexussapphire ,
doodledup ,

You use Arch Linux but can't fix your wifi?

corroded , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

I switched all of my Windows systems over to Windows 10 LTSC a few months ago, and it's been a game-changer. I still get security updates, but no advertisements, bloat, or new "features." I believe it's supported until 2032.

After that, I'll probably switch my remaining systems over to Linux, but until then, it's not half bad.

ByteMe ,

I'm thinking about doing it too but with w11

corroded ,

I haven't tried W11 LTSC. Even if you cut out the bloat, I just can't stand the interface. Hopefully 12 is better, but I'm not hopeful.

ByteMe ,

The interface is fine. The inconsistency of it is awful. Makes me wonder how the most popular os in the world, can that be bad and useless.

accideath ,

You got it the wrong way round. It’s awful because it is the most popular os. If you look back at Windows XP or 7, they were clean, consistent and a pleasure to use. Everybody had XP, then 7 and by then it was too late and everybody was used to it and Microsoft can do whatever they want now and people will just take it because they’ve always used Windows. No need to put in effort.

neclimdul ,

People that lived through getting kicked off XP are like "w11 interface is fine. I've been through worse"

Freefall ,

"popular" as it "it came on every computer every Luddite got from Best Buy and contracted to every business"

Honestly, it Linux was as easy as Windows and played every steam game without any effort, windows would drown a slow death.

neo ,
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

it's pre-installed on everything by default. that's the only reason it's """popular"""

Plopp ,

Hopefully 12 is better

Hahaha. Oh man, I needed that laugh. Thanks. 🥲 This is a one way journey until all computers look and behave like smartphones. Hopefully I'll have dementia by then so I won't remember how amazing computers used to be.

Jayb151 ,

I ran ltsc for a few months... Then I found it didn't have simple stuff like the camera app? I forget why, but there was one all I really needed that I didn't have, so after fighting trying to install it, I just want back to Windows pro. I might give windows enterprise a try though.

I_Miss_Daniel ,

VLC, Open Capture Device would probably have worked. Or OBS if you wanted to get fancy.

Freefall , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

I have nothing critical on it, and I will make my 8.1 last as long as the disks and fans still spin!

nexussapphire ,

I wonder how many years until all mainstream websites and web based apps like steam refuse to work because you're os isn't supported by the latest browser version.

piecat ,

As soon as they bake drm checks into the os

nexussapphire ,

I mean they don't need drm if updated requirements can't be met by the host system. Steam stopped officially supporting windows 7 because of some core platform security libraries that is needed for newer versions of chrome just doesn't exist on windows 7 and won't because windows 7 is EOL.

JoeKrogan , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
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It never was yours

coolmojo ,

It started when they changed My Computer to This Computer.

rottingleaf , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

The "1000 and 1 Microsoft sucker lament" genre again.

One would think in a "technology" community people would be sharing mostly articles about some cool-working things, and news would be something supplementary.

I know that I haven't submitted a single post here, but just WTF.

conciselyverbose ,

Maybe if Microsoft(/Facebook/Elon) stopped doing actively fucking evil shit every opportunity they got it wouldn't dominate the discussion?

Lost_My_Mind ,

Dude......I've been here since may, and submitted about a dozen posts. Not tech related, but, still. Lemmy gotta grow and get interaction!

Go make a post in your favorite sub right now.

TheFeatureCreature , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
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Microsoft is constantly experimenting with how far they can push users into a corner and get away with it. There might be a day when Microsoft caves and releases a Windows that is more like what we wanted, but I imagine it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. We have not yet seen the worst MS has to offer force upon us.

OutlierBlue ,

Just look at how bad the car industry is now. Your car spies on EVERYTHING.

Windows can still get a lot worse before we begin to see an improvement.

Lost_My_Mind ,

That's fine. I'll just stick with Windows 7 for the next 30 years.

apfelwoiSchoppen , (edited ) to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
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Acceptance is the last stage of grief. You are ready to move on.

themeatbridge ,

It's like when people in abusive relationships suddenly realize that their partner doesn't actually care about them, and everyone around them is like "Yeah, no shit. Fucking leave their ass."

NegativeLookBehind , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore
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How intuitive

hissingmeerkat , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

That's because you're the victim of a crime: extortion

WhiteShotgun , to Technology in My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore

Im no expert. I just uninstall and use shell commands to remove the crap from my windows computer

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