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Ultragigagigantic ,
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I think mandaloregaming did a video on a game that is relevant.

As for my favorite submarine game, that would be treasures of the deep on Playstation 1. Arcade, but I just love how it feels

set_secret ,

to be fair the playstation controller is pretty reliable...

Godnroc ,

Only reliable thing involved.

TheControlled ,

I would trust a PlayStation controller with my life. Not Logitech.

glitchdx ,

It was a logitech controller, either an f310 or f710. The f310 is one of the best budget controllers ever, and I keep 4 at all times to play modded smash bros. There were a million things wrong with oceangate, but the controller wasn't one of them.

Lurker ,

Logitech is the king of the budget device. I've had the same wireless mouse for almost 10 years give or take. Best 10 bucks I ever spent.

BluesF ,

Counterpoint - I've had two Logitech mice, both dired with the same issue (dying RMB switch), and a Logitech keyboard which lost a key and you can't buy replacements.

Kolanaki ,
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It was the F710 wireless one. I only remember because I thought they should at least used the wired 310 to eliminate interference and/or lag since you're using the damn thing to steer a vehicle. I barely trust wireless controllers to save my life in Elden Ring; I sure as shit wouldn't put my actual life on the line with one.

moosetwin ,
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AeonFelis ,
pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

Logitech

rmuk ,

I thought it was XBox?

LemmyKnowsBest ,

okay but how are you gonna fit an entire generation of humans into one tiny submersible?

ManniSturgis ,
@ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip avatar

I think deep underwater there is enough pressure to push them all it.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It still befuddles me, especially since it's a specific format for a horror story: A bunch of rich people pay through the nose for a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and of course it kills them (though the final girl might escape). The Menu was a recent example. Maybe to get Stockton Rushed should now mean to buy a super expensive experience or trip or thing that kills you.

A drug named Stockton Rush would be super expensive, and the most amazing trip ever, and fatally toxic.

So if you're hiring someone to chart out your trip to Everest or the Titanic or the moon or something, it's good to get your legal team to do some due diligence and make sure the company knows what its doing. (For a deeper dive, check out Behind the Bastards' two-parter on Stockton Rush. All the warning signs were there he was doing mad science and not listening to his deep-sea experts.

Also, the door that only can be opened from the outside was total early foreshadowing.

funkless_eck ,

The restaurant for The Menu would have checked out unless you had an inside man there for the previous few months before the events of the movie. They operated for years, right up until the final night, as one of the best restaurants in the world.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

True. It was also intentional whereas an IRL stockton-rush is more likely to kill you through incompetence or underestimating the challenges. (A lot of people die on Mt. Everest just from the elements and preparation miscalculations.)
Though if you die because you hired the Joker, that might be incompetence on your own behalf.

My take on The Menu is that the Hawthorne exploded due to compound stress of its staff. While this is accurate representation of the restaurant industry as a whole (in the US at least), their austere lifestyle may have accelerated the process.

psmgx ,

into a fine paste from the pressure

GluWu ,

I, for one, welcome the bourgeoisie crushing machine.

littletranspunk ,
germanatlas ,
@germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Phew, at least it’s not a Logitech controller

CarbonIceDragon ,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

Don't forget, it's built out of materials which are more suitable for making airplanes than submarines, and is bound by no safety regulations

sus ,

and the carbon fiber hull was cheap because it's shelf life had expired.

smb ,

i think it was not the whole hull but one of the materials, the hull was made of that had expired.
well, carbon fibre has its strenght when pulled, but when pushing it bends. but if one uses resin on the fibre, then it gets some strenght when pushed too. similar to steel and concrete, while steel can really be pulled a lot, concrete is way better when pushed than steel. steel is quite stable when pushed too, but thats not its main strength.
i think the resin was what really held the pressure in the sub, not the carbon fibre, but with this i only have that dangerous type of half-knowledge i'ld have to bring to expert level before doing something stupid (like depending on that to be fully true without really knowing).

in general things often last longer than their expected "minimum" to be used without concern.
but in practice one would have to test for damage or if its worn out (like its done with airplane parts at fixed intervals) even without using materials of bad quality. but that was AFAIK what oceangate's management decided to explicitly NOT check the sub for - despite internal demands to do so.

i would not say its not possible to build a secure pressure hull out of carbon fibre, or out of carbon fibre of not the best quality, or a hull of a different shape than a sphere, or a hull out of different materials with different bending behaviors under pressure, or when such components are "glued" together on the edges that do the different bending, but ALL of this at the same time and without even checking at least after a new maximum depth was reached? not to mention crackling sounds after which heared one would want to double check.
Even the wright brothers seemed more cautious to me.

today one would at least get some wear level statistics with unmanned vehicles in a slightly deeper than intended depth to have security margins and afterwards throughout checks for the parts that are important, single points of failures or are one of the proudly new developed.

Honytawk ,
MossyFeathers ,

Aww, I was really excited because I thought it was gonna turn into the intro text from Iron Lung.

No, just memeing about Oceangate again

LinkOpensChest_wav ,
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MossyFeathers ,

Perfect.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

In December 2023, Szymanski faced criticism online for increasing the price of the game by two dollars

???

MossyFeathers ,

Yeah? And? If a dev wants to increase the cost of their game, they can do that. It's a single dev, not a AAA studio. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Iirc he also released an update that added a bunch of lore stuff.

ChicoSuave ,

The game is an hour long, one time thrill and is excellent at it. However, there is no variation nor surprises after the first run, so it was reasonably priced for like a dollar or two. The criticism is the game became a meme game that caused the dev to double the price to capitalize on the fame. It's one of those situations which leaves no one happy.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.melroy.org avatar

The game was $6, increased to $8. Not sure what universe you're from.

MossyFeathers ,

Tbh I don't blame him for wanting to cash in on the success of it. He's a single dev, and while he's had some successful games (like Iron Lung, Dusk and Chop Goblins) I totally get that bills have to be paid and if raising the cost of a "meme game" by a couple bucks helps pay the bills, then the choice seems like a no-brainer. Besides, at that point most of the people who were going to buy it had probably already done so.

Note: I call it a "meme game" not because its bad or a joke, but because it's literally become a meme in the traditional sense.

ThePyroPython ,

The problem wasn't the game controller.

The problem was using a composite construction for the pressure vessel that wasn't pressure tested before diving.

Jumuta ,
@Jumuta@sh.itjust.works avatar

and the underrated acrylic dome used for the window

vox ,
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irrc it was pressure tested, just not stress tested.
a.k.a the first dive is almost guaranteed to go fine, but the next ones cause the material to gradually fail

uriel238 ,
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According to Behind The Bastards they could hear the carbon fiber hull deteriorating below 4000' and Rush dismissed it as settling.

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