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SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Black isn’t a colour.

Warl0k3 ,

Never bought paint before, eh?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Black is the absence of light and therefore not a colour.

But it is a shade.

pennomi ,

Color is a far broader word than that, even if in some niche uses it’s specific.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Next you’re going to tell me zero is a number and not just a placeholder.

NewNewAccount ,

You’re not good at this.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Apparently not.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Are you 12? This is the kind of context-less pedantry that could only come from someone with no real-world experience.

Words can have different meanings in different contexts, and can belong in different categories depending.

Zekas ,

Damn you got baited hard. Look at the username. Have you never seen a troll?

webghost0101 ,

Anyone internet user can choose to troll if they like. Maybe some people have troll alter ego but for most username is unrelated.

MindTraveller ,

Satansmaggotycumfart has been a Lemmy regular for many months. What's your problem with funny usernames? Do you find laughter offensive?

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Pigments dude...

Black is every single color at once in pigment.

White is every single color at once in light.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

That’s not black, that’s a mix of every colour.

MIT engineers made a ‘black’ using vertically aligned carbon nanotubes but it’s only 99.995% of the way to being a true black.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

A mix of every color in pigment is black because it absorbs every color wavelength of light so no color is reflected back to your eyes. All the things like vantablack are doing is trying to get the amount of light reflected back off the object to your eyes to be completely 0. Visible, or otherwise.

You're focusing entirely on the light aspect, forgetting that pigments and light work together to create what we understand as color.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Any pigment can be black depending on the lighting, but only black can be black in full light.

They are only 99.995% of the way to that using the carbon fibre pigment I described.

Not a mixture of every colour.

Kolanaki , (edited )
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Any pigment can be black depending on the lighting

No... Just because there isn't enough light to illuminate the object doesn't mean its pigmentation is black. Would you say that an object that is red becomes black if you close your eyes or turn off the lights?

The reason an object is black in full lighting is because it's absorbing all the wavelengths of colored light you can see due to its pigment containing all of those colors. That's why we have black objects that we can see and call "black." Because they're black.

Also, just because I am curious: What do you think a black light is/does?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

If I gave you a black and a red ball in the dark you couldn’t tell me which is which.

If you gave me a ball painted with a conventional ’black’ paint and one that was painted with the pigment I described previously in full light I could.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

If I gave you a black and a red ball in the dark you couldn’t tell me which is which.

With my naked eyes? No. Because I can't see. But if you put them in a room I couldn't see and gave me the tools to analyze their molecular structure in a room I can see in, I could. (Or well, someone who knows how to use the equipment and read the measurements could anyway lol)

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I wouldn’t need any special tools or tool-deciphering experts.

Bumblefumble ,

Is purple a colour?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Yes but it is one of the lesser colours like orange.

JohnDClay ,

Lol I guess we have a hierarchy of colors now

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Yesterday we were discussing capitalism and today it’s colours.

sukhmel ,

Next thing you know it's going to be a book about the superiority of some colours and how inferior colours should no longer exist… wait a minute 🤔

HonoraryMancunian ,

Uh, yes? 'Blue and green reign supreme' as the saying that I just made up goes

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

"I'm blue, if I was green I would die, if I was green I would die..."

Bumblefumble ,

Well you contradict yourself, since there's no such thing as purple light, it must be as much a colour as black is. Have you considered your third-grade gotcha might not be quite nuanced enough for the real world? Or that the science of colours might be a little more complex than you first thought?

idiomaddict ,

That’s because it’s ultra purple when it’s light

MindTraveller ,

Not all colours are made of light.

Mango ,

Light isn't color. Color is exclusively in your head. It's a mental construct.

LANIK2000 ,

I was gonna say something about scientific definitions not being too useful and that you would need to deny that orange and purple are colors, while claiming that WIFI is, but then I actually looked it up and I can't find a definition that doesn't include "lightness" in the equation, aka, black and white (and orange too). Literally can only find an Adobe article claiming this and then countless online discussions.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

It’s pretty easy, black isn’t a colour.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

A good troll should require barely any intervention from the person trolling. This chain has 20 comments; nine are yours. 9/20 = you suck at trolling. Sauce.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I’m just having a friendly discussion.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

You're supposed to start with "Pardon me, I couldn't help but overh..." no no no wait nevermind that's a different type of troll, my bad.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f6a363a1-3456-48d4-a513-dec93412f2bd.webp

I like these trolls.

JohnDClay ,

I don't, their faces are creepy looking

Mango ,

A master troll can survive for a year on a few grains of MDMA and the dew on his bag of grass.

Mango ,

Yes it is. It's one of the 4 colors that can make all other colors! Blue, Magenta, Steve, and Black.

dethedrus ,

Steve is a secondary color!

toaster ,
@toaster@slrpnk.net avatar

Remember not to feed the trolls, people.

MelodiousFunk ,
@MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net avatar

Look, can't we just find some common ground and meet in the middle?

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/0cc117fe-d328-4781-83b7-78b45e5ae436.webp

...hmm.

Alternatively

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/0b6b796d-bf2e-4aee-bb47-012592df8b81.webp

...double hmm.

capital ,

Don’t forget the speech one. Both said no on that one.

The rest I’m on board with.

HauntedCupcake ,

Isn't like most of the problem fascists who aren't explicitly calling for genocide? I thought that the antifa position didn't support free speech for them too

Rooskie91 ,

I will believe in horseshoe theory when a fascist moves so far right that they accidently create a stateless, moneyless utopia.

webghost0101 ,

Am i that much more extreme for thinking that the best solution for Nazis isn’t discriminating against them but educating people to respect so Fascist ideal can no longer take hold?

I know of intolerance for the intolerant, I've spread that message myself i am just no longer convinced that burying the problem into private conversations only (Which should be absolute free speech unless you want some sort of police control inside your home) is tackling the problem at the source.

My wish is to eradicate this ideology once and for all not to hide it like we try to do with homeless in rich neighborhoods.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Education is better and preferred but ocne5 the Nazis are in the street they've already taken hold and need to be uprooted before we can go back to educating it away.

webghost0101 ,

Once there in the in the streets and are expressing their hostility toward others it becomes self defense to push back.

Nazis should be either

  • spouting their shit in private so their social circle gets the message that their guy is sick and probably needs therapy.

  • in therapy where no speech is taboo and the goal is to improve themselves.

  • in public, not expressing their shit because there starting to understand that its wrong, therapy is long term ongoing progress.

Where they definitively shouldn’t be and i would regard as a hostile act.

  • marching down the streets in group with firearms.
mal3oon ,

The issue is the overuse of the word Nazi. Like the left is throwing at anything to try to make it stick, and we saw how Europe reacted to that. People have issues that are ignore by the ruling powers and we're left there to fester for so long. From the grooming of Rotherham, to the sexual assault of Cologne, to the countless other instances that are facing EU resident's life every day. There are issues that are not addressed. And just throwing "nazi" at anyone that try to bring these issues to life is inconsiderate and just circle jerking: "I think that sounds so cool to say Nazi on any random political post on the internet".

webghost0101 ,

I am only really talking about individuals with fascist ideologies that refuse to respect and assault the freedoms of others.

You know, “nazis”. The word has evolved a bit since the Wehrmacht i do admit.

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

People that solely focus on these "issues" are called "Nazis" because by all objective measures these are rare and inconsequential events that got way over-blown in the media and serve no other purpose than to distract from the real issues in Europe. If you can't or don't want to understand that you are either extremely stupid or are indeed a Nazi that is pushing an agenda. These "issues" are not being "ignored" and left "festering" because the real and only issue there are the people that think that these are "issues" aka Nazis.

Mango ,

How come only white people get to be fascist? That's not very fair. What about China? Aren't they fascist AF?

thesporkeffect ,

Sorry, it's not from Italy, it's just sparkling authoritarianism

Mango ,

🤣

whereisk ,

You should have seen Japan..

Mango ,

Ahh yes. The other white meat.

neonred ,

Don't let them see the other facts... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa

JohnDClay ,

I've usually heard horseshoe theory referring to tankies/authoritarian communists, not anti fascists.

idiomaddict ,

My dad swears up and down that antifa are the real nazis. I think this would be a response to that type of thing.

octopus_ink ,

Is your dad in this thread? I think I just replied to him.

MindTraveller ,

Ask him if he opposes the antifa fascists. When he says yes, call him antifa

idiomaddict ,

My favorite thing in the world is calling him antifa :)

mathemachristian ,

Guess where the antifaschistische aktion has it roots...

Enkrod ,

In 1919, Benito Mussolini united various groups in the then Kingdom of Italy to form the Fasci di combattimento. During the Biennio rosso (1919-1921), the Black Shirts used targeted terror against striking industrial workers, the Partito Socialista Italiano (PSI) and all opposition. As a result, local and regional anti-fascist groups as well as vigilante groups emerged from 1920 onwards, encompassing the entire political spectrum, from Catholics and liberals to socialists and anarchists.

Emphasis by me

In 1921, Mussolini transformed his militia movement into the National Fascist Party. The first armed anti-fascist organization came into being in 1921 with the Arditi del Popolo. It was open to anarchists, communists, social democrats, Christians and bourgeois republicans. However, the leadership of the PSI and the Partito Comunista Italiano (PCI) rejected the League. It remained limited to a few thousand members and a few cities.[3] This was the first organization with an explicitly anti-fascist self-image. Its supporters referred to themselves as antifascisti[4].

Emphasis by me

Arditi del Popolo

It grouped revolutionary trade-unionists, socialists, communists, anarchists, republicans, anti-capitalists, as well as some former military officers

Composed of Italian anarchists, socialists, and communists, the Arditi del Popolo were not supported by leftist parties (neither by the Italian Socialist Party, PSI, nor by the Communist Party of Italy, PCd'I).

Furthermore, the PCd'I ordered its members to quit the organization because of the presence of non-communists in its ranks.[8] The PCd'I organized by themselves some militant groups (the Squadre comuniste d'azione), but their actions were relatively minor and the party kept a non-violent, legalist strategy.

The Antifaschistische Aktion grew in the soil of the SPD and KPD in Nazi Germany (which themselves where not autoritarians or tankies at the time), but it's roots are older, decidedly anti-authoritarian and open to the entire political spectrum that wanted to fight fascism.

Edit: Antifascism is represented by a red and a black flag. How you could ever think is has anything to do with the authoritarian left when it's roots are so extremely anarchist is beyond me.

Aceticon , (edited )

This very special take on Fascism brought to you by Zionists-R-Us.

(Remember, boys and girls, people from the Jewish ethnicity couldn't possibly be Fascists).

badcommandorfilename ,

Colour scheme: blue on white

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