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AVincentInSpace ,

I don't see anyone else here recommending K-9 Mail for Android, and I think that's sad because it's really good. Open source, supports viewing message headers, multi-account, hides remote images by default to prevent tracking...

lolcatnip ,

IIT: People who've never used Gmail complaining about how it's full of ads. They only appear in the "promotions" tab, which is where Gmail sends stuff that's already borderline spam. In other words you don't see ads unless you go looking for them.

Pandantic OP , (edited )
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

I use gmail a lot on my phone, and I have seen ads, but I’ve never seen an ad like that. My point was I was mildly irritated that it gave me a sex line ad. It made me feel angry for the trafficked sex workers probably running a majority of those lines. I generally would imagine Google to be more choosy about their adds. This ad felt icky, which mildly irritated me.

DudeDudenson ,

I mean google is one of the companies that tracks you the most these days so it would be unusual for it to show you an ad for something you or someone with your ad tracking id haven't shown any interest in the past.

Just saying.

GamerBoy705 ,

Bro got exposed by Google

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Really? Everyone who sees ads for sex lines has shown Google they have interest in sex lines?

spez_ ,

Please lick my boots

jmsy ,

There are ads in Gmail?

lolcatnip ,

They're in the "promotions" tab.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

which

  1. can be disabled
  2. that tab is already a place where gmail puts spam ads
    (kinda a smart decision to add their own ads there too lol)
Municipal0379 ,

User an ad blocker like everybody else

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

pretty sure that's the official app

MadBob ,

https://blokada.org/ Give it a go.

Municipal0379 ,

PiHole with a VPN client. You’ll thank me later.

If you don’t want to go that route you can use AdBlock’s DNS.

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Suggestion for iOS?

azenyr ,

Use private dns on your wifi settings and input dns.adguard.com into the dns setting. Sometimes this can cause connection problems tho. It's a bit hard overall to block stuff on iOS, too strict of an OS

AeonFelis ,

Okay, but the rest of these emails also look like advertising spam...

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Fair, it’s been a long while since I’ve unsubscribed from the spam I get. I mostly ignore it.

spookedbyroaches ,

Mostly ignore it

Gotta gamble sometimes since the odds that there are truly milfs in the area is never 0.

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

this should be more than mildly infuriating to you.

You might want to ditch google for something like proton if you can, and if you can't use Thunderbird to view your emails.

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

I definitely need to make that switch, and I’ve been “in the process” of making the switch for a while.

I will take your advice about Thunderbird because my work email is gmail only.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

thunderbird should connect to gmail too :)

hungryphrog ,
@hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What alternative(s) to gmail you'd recommend?

maynarkh ,

Proton is cool

Lemmy_2019 ,

Spark for Android. EMclient for desktop. Both have combined inboxes.

vox ,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

the ads only appear in the "Promotions/Ads" tab, which is an email category for junk and ads. (ones that don't include any useful information but come from legitimate companies and don't qualify for the "Spam" tab)
It CAN be disabled (together with the whole sorting feature, which is spyware anyway (enabling it automatically grants google permission to look at your emails))
and also i think the decision to add their own ads there is actually pretty clever lol.

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

It would be clever if they fit and I might actually click on them.

Honestly, I did the whole “inbox filter tabs” thing a long time ago, and it was real useful before when I had a few spammy, usually “news letter” or “promotion” email that I might use. But at this point it’s just where the email I don’t really want but don’t want to deal with go to die.

I appreciate the info, though, and I’ve already turned it off, but I might just turn it back on because idgaf about the ads really since I barely look at that tab/section of my mail anyway. At his point, I’m prolly just going to go to proton mail for now and just update my email with my important contacts. I’ve been trying to get away from Google for a while, I just haven’t had the time to complete the transition on all services.

dreamer ,

Yep, and so you know there's a lot to complain about if Google, that decision is not one of them .

PutangInaMo ,

You can disable this..

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Yep, I just looked it up and did that! Thanks!

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

How, I just looked through the settings in the app and couldn't see where?

PutangInaMo ,

I had to do it for the wife after I noticed she had them too. I have never seen it in any of my personal Gmail accounts.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/3094499

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Like youtube giving me ad's for programs basically flat out saying 'use our app to make porn of your friends'

Octopus1348 , (edited )
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Use a different email client. I use Samsung Email, but that's (of course) only on Samsung.

A good FOSS client would be FairEmail though.

Mr_Blott ,

FairyMail? Sounds interesting

Species5218 ,

Fairmail is good. My issue with it is that the F-Froid version did not work with my provider, so I've been using k-9 mail instead.

It's also foss, and the F-Droid version works with my provider. It's really nice and fully featured.

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

laughs in tutanota.
you seeing this @Tutanota?

Chakravanti ,

That's payable for better function from data and storage. Respect is the product.

pineapplelover ,

Something something if you're not paying for it then you are the product

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I'm not paying for firefox though...

Chakravanti ,

That's not an exception. Librewolf is.

victorz ,

Are you paying for Librewolf? I'm not sure what you meant to say.

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

He means with Firefox, you're still the product.

Hadriscus ,

But no

Chakravanti , (edited )

Selling usage data to google. Yeah. Definately.

As per Librewolf it's not business product.

Free is not at no cost but rather Free as in Freedom. Production may but paid for but request or donation but it is even then still not a business product. It is not a capitalist product. Free is Freedom truly in this sense even though production may cost money in this capitalist tyrrany. Cost is, again, by choice, pursuit/desire of particularity by a nonprogrammer, or donation.

Surely Mozilla was built like that but google bought it is in a certainly assassination objective. No doubt. That's the whole fucking point of this thread's post and observation. Y'all fucking quick about it.

null ,
@null@slrpnk.net avatar

Eh, by default FF has a bunch of telemetry enabled. Nowhere near as bad as the others, but Librewolf has that all disabled out of the box.

victorz ,

Surely the telemetry only consists of stuff that they use to give back to the community? Usage data to drive innovation?

I might be naive, but that's how I imagine it.

lolcatnip ,

It's a stupid saying popular with self righteous people.

LodeMike ,

Looks like someone fat fingered while cropping. It happens to everyone.

suction ,

I mean...they know what you like it seems

Appoxo , (edited )

If OP has personalized ads even enabled.

The times I turned off personalized ads, were the times google ads went really wild. This was both for regular website ads as well as youtube ads. So many cosmetic product ads...

I had to turn it back on again because they were at least partly interesting compared to "SiCk oF aCnE?! sIcK of pImPleS??!"

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

You guys get ads?

Chakravanti ,

If I chose to.

victorz ,

Yeah, I have turned off personalized ads and I mostly get these inappropriate dating ads. I guess it's their way of annoying me into enabling personalization.

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

just use uBlock Origin. It's that easy.

victorz ,

That... doesn't work in the Gmail app. I have it installed on both desktop and mobile Firefox though. ✌️

bigMouthCommie ,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

k-9 is a mozilla project now. thunderbird always has been.

victorz ,

Yeah I heard of it just today, looking to set it up and try it out some time. 👍

Meowoem ,

Do you get the super creepy 'easten European girls are popular because of their traditional values...' and the I've that's 'Chinese women want to come and study in but need loving middle aged men to have sex with them while they're here...' I'm paraphraseing of course but that's basically what they say.

Makes me laugh when everything is sanitized because advertiser's don't want to appear next to anything untoward then the adverts are for human traffickers.

Though honestly the 'student was expelled for inventing a more efficient heater' advert is possibly worse, of course he was expelled he broke the laws of physics, he should have been arrested! Why is such an obvious scam allowed but a friendly Australian can't call his cobba a cunt?

victorz ,

I do rarely use Gmail on my phone, but those probably showed up in some form of another at some point, lol

Pandantic OP ,
@Pandantic@midwest.social avatar

Interestingly enough, no. I do like anime, though, so maybe they made that assumption.

irotsoma ,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

Google knows what you like and these days they will take any ad because they fired all the screening staff. My ads are usually pretty average since I opt out of everything I possibly can opt out of and I use Startpage for search, so they aren't as targeted. That's one positive thing about Google. They started as a relatively ethical company for an ad company, so there's a lot of code and best practices in place for opting out of things. That is fading, but it's way better than others. Like Facebook showing ads for things I searched for a few seconds ago on Amazon and stuff like that.

Appoxo ,

Amazon sharing data with Facebook? I kinda doubt that.

atrielienz ,

Facebook has crawlers that follow you around the web. It's not that Amazon is sharing info, it's that Facebook is tracking your browsing history (if you let it).

pete_the_cat ,

I've used Gmail since 2005 and don't ever remember seeing ads, but then again I use ad blockers on pretty much all my devices.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

I was able to see ads but I had to look for it. I can see them if I enable the promotions section and the look in the promotions section.

pete_the_cat ,

So the ads are in the section labeled "ads", who would have thought! (not being snide with you, just that's where they should be haha)

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

give it a few years and you'll be seeing only ads and maybe an occasional email.

lolcatnip ,

I already did. No change after several years.

shalafi ,

2000 or so for me. I have no idea how people are seeing ads in their inbox.

pete_the_cat ,

The public beta started in like 04 or 05 IIRC, I got my Gmail account my freshman year of college. I guess you were one of the cool people that got in on the closed beta.

Fal ,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

Literally everyone on Lemmy is 38 years old

DontTreadOnBigfoot ,
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

Can confirm. Am exactly 38 years old...

victorz ,

Happy birthday!

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I am 38.25739 years old!

DontTreadOnBigfoot ,
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

Just hit 38.0027

It's all downhill from here

Appoxo ,

*Quietly* I am not :(

Agrivar ,

I'm over here telling myself that 50 is the new 38...

victorz ,

Hey! I'm 37!

Fal ,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

I was just informed that I'm actually 37...

ilinamorato ,

Uh oh, I'll be 39 next week, does that mean I need to leave?

Fal ,
@Fal@yiffit.net avatar

Also 04 was still the closed beta I think. Just not super closes. Got an invite from my friend back then

pete_the_cat ,

Yeah, I think I got an invite from a friend on a forum I frequented.

Appoxo ,

I have seen it on the gmail app only so far.
And not in the main mail box but in subfolders.

HerbalGamer ,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

yeah it's only in the subfolders which are bullshit anyways so it's no surprise longtime users opted out of that as soon as it came along

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