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xlash123 ,
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Do HDDs noticably degrade when powered off? I'm thinking about getting one of these for cold storage backups. Also, how much of an impact does repeated power cycling have on lifespan?

force ,

HDDs are your best option for long-term storage. Every storage mechanism fails eventually but HDDs are convenient, last long, and have excellent data recovery.

Gabu ,

They do, but not so much that your average home user would notice without having more than enough time to fix the problem.

umbrella ,
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yes

Gabu ,

Read it as 120TB at first and my eyes nearly jumped out of their sockets.

arin ,

12 TB for $80 is a deal for me! My 8tb was around $200 to $300 in 2021

InternetUser2012 ,

It's "refurbed" by the seller. It also says it has approximately 35,000 hours on it. That's 4 years of continual use. I wouldn't trust that with anything.

Trollception ,

That drive could run another 5 years without any problems.

randomaside ,

Depends on the usage. That's the gamble you take. I would maybe buy three and put two in a mirror and keep the third one as a replacement?

That's 240$ for three drives without warranty though... Nevermind I'd prefer to buy two new Toshiba X300 new for 210$ a piece and forget the headache and get the warranty.

Sometimes you get what you pay for ... Sometimes

Trollception ,

The Toshiba x300 is a consumer drive, the drive they are offering is an enterprise grade storage drive. I have only bought enterprise or nas speed drives in the past. Consumer drives may not be built to the same standards.

toddestan ,

It certainly could. That's the gamble you're taking.

I usually replace drives after 5 years if they are doing anything I consider important. So those drives to me would have 1-2 years left in them. Of course, I have seen a good number of drives I have repurposed to things less important still manage to rack up impressive numbers of hours.

Trollception ,

I'm running Raid z2;and have considered even z3 which should be plenty of redundancy for older drives. Well that and backing up data to a separate location.

InternetUser2012 ,

It could. I'm not trusting it with anything important though.

daniskarma ,

I really wish we had a service like this on Europe.

I know they ship to Europe. But shipping costs are prohibitive for small buys.

original2 ,

like this?

https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/emc-hitachi-huh728080aln600-8tb-lff-3-5in-sata-iii-6gbps-7-2k-128mb-hdd-118000115

cynar ,

Depressingly, that's around 2x the cost/Tb.

d7eeem ,

Cries in Middle East.

B0rax ,

Look on eBay, there are oftentimes some from server farm providers like hetzner

Evil_incarnate ,

Plus tax. Finland is stopping everything from outside EU and demanding proof that tax is paid. So I have to look at the prices with postage and add 24%.

Appoxo ,

And here I thought Germany had it bad with 19%...

altima_neo ,
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Looks juicy

Apollo2323 ,

I just bought two of their 12TB for $100 each and they were the manufactured recertified. One had like 8 hours run time and the second had like 36 hours so brand new for the lifetime of a hard drive. So far no issues. Also beware these drives are very loud.

bear ,
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Refurbished drives get their SMART data reset during the process, they absolutely had more than that originally.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Oh wow I did not know that.

That's absolutely terrifying. Like resetting the speedometer for used cars.

cdombroski ,

You mean odometer, resetting the speedometer wouldn't be a bad thing.

UmbraTemporis ,

You'd better hope that be pretty close to zero before attempting repairs.

cyberpunk007 ,

Hang on, you don't typically buy your cars at 15Km/h?

spechter ,

Usually I buy them at a slower speed as I'm not in shape

ashok36 ,

That's why you run a couple rounds of preclear to stress them and then run a fresh smart report.

BCsven ,

Amazon reseller for xbox drives was getting 10 year old dirty crusty drives and swapping the HD controller to a more recent one. So SMART report looked like a young drive. Xbox casing had a sticker or warranty void. So me being me wondered and opened it to find a dirty ass old drive inside. i called Amazon and initially they said it is outside of return window and warranty...But i explained it doesn't matter when I detected the fraud it is still fraud. So they gave me my money back

jkrtn ,

This has got me concerned, wondering how do you tell it's old if the controller is replaced? Are there serials or dates on the other parts or just obvious wear?

BCsven ,

For the ones I had, the corrosion of the metal and stained labels was the give away (looked like they had been out on an autoshop repair bench), but each part had its own label dates. HDD was way older date than the controller board.

cyberpunk007 ,

Odometer*

Apollo2323 ,

I think there is a difference on Refurbished drives and Manufactured recertified. On server part deals the prices were different and manufactured recertified being a little more expensive for the same drive. So I assumed the drives were send back from a data center and tested again but they cant be spelled as new.

Mir ,

Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/

Apollo2323 ,

Yeah I think that's normal , I moved my NAS to a closet because of how loud the drives are. I wasn't even able to sleep with that noise lol

Takahe ,

Interest to know this too, deal appears too good...

melpomenesclevage ,

I dunno, 80 for a Hitachi seems a little low, but not too good.

Not sure I'd buy one used tho.

cyberpunk007 ,

If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.

interdimensionalmeme ,

6gb sas is regularly found for 30-40$.
80$ for 12gb sounds reasonnable. And you'll save 50% power per GB

UmbraTemporis ,

Oh you're gonna make me act up 💳

UsefulIdiot ,

Ah hell. For that price I grabbed 4. I think the same source is selling on newegg as well for a similar price.

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