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Music Piracy Is Back, Baby

"Muso, a research firm that studies piracy, concluded that the high prices of streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music are pushing people back towards illegal downloads. Spotify raised its prices by one dollar last year to $10.99 a month, the same price as Apple Music. Instead of coughing up $132 a year, more consumers are using websites that rip audio straight out of YouTube videos, and convert them into downloadable MP3 or .wav files.

Roughly 40% of the music piracy Muso tracked was from these “YouTube-to-MP3” sites. The original YouTube-to-MP3 site died from a record label lawsuit, but other copycats do the same thing. A simple Google search yields dozens of blue links to these sites, and they’re, by far, the largest form of audio piracy on the internet."

The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience. What Apple Music and Spotify have in common is that their software is bloated with useless shit and endlessly annoying user-hostile design. Plus Steve Jobs himself said it back in 2007: "people want to own their music." Having it, organizing it, curating it is half the fun. Not fun is pressing play one day and finding a big chunk of your carefully constructed playlist is "no longer in your library." Screw that.

Hiro8811 ,
@Hiro8811@lemmy.world avatar

OK so they didn't find the other sites. Good good

s08nlql9 ,
@s08nlql9@lemm.ee avatar

The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience.

It's all about the price for me cause I live in a 3rd world country. Even if their service improves, I will not hesitate for a second to pirate stuff. I'll just use the money i save to pay the internet bill instead of availing a monthly sub

Prethoryn ,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

I was going to say that this is where I disagreed with the OP. It is 100% about price and has absolutely nothing to do with bloat or hostile design. As I wouldn't consider Spotify's design or Apple Music's design choice bad. If anything they are popular because of their design choice.

If people cared about bloat they wouldn't be on Facebook, Instagram, or TikTok. The rest of the consuming world lives in a pretty concerning place financially. Anyone who thinks it has to do with the design of the apps is either missing the point and not looking at the rest of the shit going on in the world or blatantly wants to believe Apple bad and FOSS good and I have found that to be a part of what I call the Lemmy mentality.

VinS ,

Paying for spotify, was google music before. Current "experience" is bad, I hate pop-ups to try to upsell me something I don't want or features I don't care. It happens too much and I'm considering switching to self host.

96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

Never a bad time to plug ListenBrainz. ListenBrainz logs what you listen so you can keep track of what you hear and it helps you get recommendations and insights into your listening habits. It's not specifically for music pirates but it is compatible with music piracy. You can submit listens from all kinds of sources, youtube, spotify, but also local files (pirated or not). ListenBrainz is FOSS and publishes all their data on a open license, for the benefit of everyone.

doodlebob ,

Do you know if there is anything that locks up to this that will automatically download the music they recommend?

It would be cool to have an app where if you like the track, you give it a thumbs up, but if you don't you give it a thumbs down and the track is deleted automatically

Adulated_Aspersion ,

Pandora?

96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

Not that I'm aware of but I never looked into this.

Underwaterbob ,

It never left. My MP3 collection is getting kinda disgusting at this point. I really should delete a bunch of it, but you never know when I'm going to want to listen to that album I downloaded 15 years ago and haven't gotten into yet!

EngineerGaming ,
@EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

I lost mine several times - I didn't always use to have backups. Two were on MP3 players that stopped working. One was on an old smartphone, which worked but which I just didn't bother copying most of the data from. Once I just wiped it accidentally. In hindsight - I don't mind, that would've got cleaned up anyway.

Underwaterbob ,

I kinda wish I'd lost mine once or twice.

Rawdogthatexe ,

Every few years I just create a new folder of the artists that I actively listen to and keep the older stuff out of my library but still in storage.

Underwaterbob ,

Sounds better than my method of having the first ten-fifteen years of collecting arranged neatly by artist names in folders labeled alphabetically followed by a few different folders labeled by the year I downloaded (not the year of release), a few genre folders, and a a few, uhh, folders sorted by how I acquired the music torrented or through Soulseekqt. Yeah, mine is a complete mess. Pulsar player for Android makes it incredibly easy to sort through stuff anyway. I did conveniently fail to put a lot of the stuff I rarely listen to on my current phone anyway. I'm not too egregiously awful. I do at least listen to everything I download at least once or twice. I had a friend in the 00s who just downloaded everything whether he listened or not. Yeah, I'll keep comparing myself to his 20+ year old standard of digital hording.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

What are you saying OP? You don't want video and paid, exclusive podcasts on your streaming service? /s

BonesOfTheMoon ,

What you don't want to pay for the streaming service that brings you Joe Rogan and his disinformation? Why not?

HipHoboHarold ,

The apps is definitely a part of it for me. One if my friends got YouTube Premium, and since he has 3 profiles he can attach to it, hrs letting me use it. It's nice for the ad free videos on my TV. But it also comes with YouTube Music. It's honestly kind of annoying at times.

Like yesterday I wanted to listen to an album by a band, and they only have like 2 of 3 albums. The one I wanted to listen to is the one they didn't have. So I had to make a Playlist by finding videos of the songs.

And thats for a band that's not super underground. I listen to a lot of grindcore and black metal, and a lot of that isn't even on there.

And when you download things, you can only have it organized by albums. I can't organize it by band and then have all the albums.

It's also sometimes slow to load up stuff I've downloaded.

Over all its not the greatest experience. I'm currently looking at getting a mobile game device for my emulators so I can free up space on my phone, and then I'm thinking about just going back to having all the music on files on there and using an music player app. And like you said, I can have it organized how I want and customize things a bit more. Especially since I no longer have Comcast, so I can use Soulseek again.

Wasabi ,

Just a small tip with yt music if you are not aware, you can upload your own mp3s (50k files iirc).
It's the main reason I use it since so much dnb is missing from all the streaming platforms.

HipHoboHarold ,

Oh shit. I didn't know that. Might be able to get some other albums on there then. Thanks for the heads up.

Wasabi ,

No problems, it's the only reason I stuck to yt music when Google play music died.

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

What DnB artists/tracks are we talking about here?

Wasabi ,

A large portion of the metalheadz back catalogue is missing, and also an absolute shitload of jungle is absent

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

I also thought that jungle was a tad lacking on Spotify, but overall, I've been happy with it thus far. Definitely enough to not have to listen to the same 5-10 songs on repeat lol

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

It's a whole torrent of alternatives, that's for sure.

jack , (edited )
@jack@water.house avatar

@HipHoboHarold @flintheart_glomgold

Yes, I have noticed a trend of homelab hobbyists going back to something like this:

  1. Soulseek -> Nicotine+ for plentiful, lossless content
  2. Jellyfin for self-hosting
  3. Infuse for streaming the content remotely to save storage on your phone.

I don't endorse piracy for ethical reasons, but I get why this is trending up:
-Increasingly aggressive pricing models
-Service quality and content accessibility going down

Really makes it hard for consumers...

Fluid ,
@Fluid@aussie.zone avatar

It's taken longer than I expected, but more and more people are realising streaming services as a model are not good, by any measure.

They cost more in the long run, you are made powerless as a consumer (perpetually increasing costs and removing your favourite content), and you can't even get 'everything at the convenience of your fingertips' cause the market is fragmented and they remove things periodically. You own nothing and pay more. Absolutely stupid model that deserves to die.

archchan ,
@archchan@lemmy.ml avatar

I'm surprised everyone didn't realize it right from the beginning before things got to this point. Better late then never, I - suppose.

Fluid ,
@Fluid@aussie.zone avatar

My theory is that it's just the fact that there is always a new generation of people around the corner who haven't learned the lesson of how capitalists work. Therefore, there is always a market vulnerable to being swindled. They can keep using the same tactics, there's always a delay in people figuring out the grift, then by the time they do there's a new group of suckers ready to fall for it.

anivia ,

Yeah, that is true for video steaming, but not music. Spotify has almost every song on the planet, and with a family account it's very cheap. Unless you only listen to a very small music library it's vastly cheaper than buying all the music

zarkony ,

Spotify has almost every song on the planet

Until a contract negotiation with UMG goes south and they lose half the catalog overnight. See what's happening on tiktok right now for a good example of this.

I understand the convenience draw, but I'm not a fan of continually paying for content that can disappear at any moment.

Black_Gulaman ,
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Well if that happens, then there's always piracy. But until then. I'll use my family account. Because I don't have the resources to download all the songs that my other 4 family member likes.

Or, since I cannot download each and every song they like, I'll turn to another form of piracy. Revanced yt music.

EngineerGaming ,
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I do use streaming (although for free) to find new tracks. But I cannot imagine having my PRIMARY collection there, mostly because it's so locked-down. You can't use it on a dumb MP3 player, you can't use a player application of your choice, etc.

Limit ,

Their android app is total garbage and frustrates me to no end. I'm seriously considering just going back to pirating my music just because I hate spotifys music app..

Trollception ,

"The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience."

The experience using a paid service is way better than pirating, let's be honest here. The problem for some people is price.

altec ,

For music, I think yes. For other forms of media, not so much.

Lifter ,

Music is getting worse though. Spotify is bloating all searches with stuff you don't want. The "Artist top songs" is rarely the most popular songs and is limited to 10 song. In the beginning you could list all the songs from an artist and sort it on "Plays".

baseless_discourse , (edited )

Spotify needs to connect to network to play songs, and there is no option to not play on metered network. So I sometime would play songs that Spotify mysteriously deleted from downloads, and lose a month of data.

Now, I mostly get my music from bandcamp and only listen to couple classical album on spotify, since there is no good place to buy them.

The day that Spotify pull a Netflix on their family plan is the day I leave Spotify.

aesthelete ,

I’m willing to say that this is probably true for most, but not for all.

If you run your own music streaming server, in some cases it’s better than streaming services.

This isn’t sour grapes either. I had Google music for a couple of years, and I currently have a ninety day trial of Spotify unlimited…these services might be better for most, but if you care about the things I do they’re worse.

I haven’t really even used my Spotify trial because my streaming setup is so much better in a variety of ways.

All that said, I’m an album listener, an older cat, and borderline music obsessive. I’m likely a dying breed. But I find music streaming services much worse.

I honestly think it's much easier to have a catalog of music than, for instance, TV shows. I listen to the same albums over and over again, but I'm not nearly as keen on rewatching the same shows or watching the same movie more than even once.

gian ,

I would not be so sure about that.

Qvest ,

Not fun is pressing play one day and finding a big chunk of your carefully constructed playlist is "no longer in your library."

this is exceptionally true from my experience with Spotify. I had downloaded a playlist that had a specific song. One day I went to play my locally downloaded playlist only to glance over it and see that the song was unavailable. I had the song downloaded. In my device and it still removed the song. No warnings, no nothing. Ever since, I downloaded everything locally and completely ditched Spotify. Fuck this scummy behaviour

WHYAREWEALLCAPS ,

I get your anger, but if they no longer have the license to play the song, they cannot allow you to play it, even if the file is on your device. I don't find it scummy in the least. You didn't own the file, you were renting it from Spotify.

AnAngryAlpaca ,

Yeah, I get what you are saying, but then it's imho dishonest Marketing, and the user expected something different when they signed up for the paid service. I think "renting" movies, tv shows or music is not something the user expects.

If they would advertise it as "pay us 20 Dollarinos a month, and you can listen to your favorite music for as long as we allow it and don't take it away from you!" they surely would never be popular...

Halcyon ,
@Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But that's what they advertise. Everybody knows that streaming music from Spotify doesn't mean owning the music there.

AnAngryAlpaca ,

Well if i would ask my boomer-parents or non-technical people, they would tell me that spotify is just like collecting CDs, and that you keep the stuff you paid for.

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Whatever you say lawyer, now he's a pirate, nobody cares about the technicality.

Qvest ,

That's fair, but at least they could say something like "you can download our songs for as long as we allow it" and not "you can download your favourite songs and listen to them any time, anywhere" when that is only partially true, since, if someone has a playlist downloaded (still talking about personal experience) and they go offline for a long period of time, they can no longer play the songs and are required to get an internet connection only for spotify to audit and say "yeah you still have a valid subscription, you can still listen offline". It's not truly offline if I have to connect to the internet every once in a while.

Again, it's completely fair, but they could at least tell more than half-truths

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I have a slightly different suggestion.

Inflation is crap and the first thing to go are subscriptions that raise their prices when people are already hurting. If you want retention, keep your prices locked when users are having bad times and you're raking in record profits.

I think curation is great too, but I also think age plays a lot into individual views. A bunch of the younger guys at work were saying how they didn't want playlists and they didn't want to listen to an album, they just wanted to hit a button that knew their tastes musically and would give them a mix of familiar likes and new discoveries. The proceeded to describe a radio station to me, sans commercials. They were hot on all the music streaming and though I was crazy for wanting to spend time sorting through music.

Looking at a Spotify by age graph, the boomers dig it (because it's easy?), Gen-Z and the Younger Millennials dig it, Gen X has less than half the uptake of the other groups.

We were mixing our own tapes in our tweens and teens. We wired ourselves to find music, copy it and play it in the specific order we want.

or at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

daed ,

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the insight!

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I'm just here pondering. Might be as wrong as anyone.

Takumidesh ,

A radio station is a small selection of music curated by an individual and meant for the masses.

Modern music streaming has dynamically curated music from a nearly infinite source, it's really not the same.

Spuddlesv2 ,

Spotify tried to shove Doja Cat at me the other day. I have never ever EVER listened to anything that would even remotely suggest I would like Doja Cat. It may be infinite but there is still someone behind the scenes pushing particular songs and artists.

ScoopMcPoops ,

If you don't like the artist, then block them. It's not that hard. I blocked Travis Scott after he got those people killed at his concert and I haven't seen a single thing with him since.

Spuddlesv2 ,

On my iPhone it's 5 taps, which seems excessive but whatever. It's impossible to do when I'm driving, and also impossible from the Windows app (yes, really, the feature is not available - https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Desktop-Other-quot-Don-t-play-this-artist-quot-on-desktop/idi-p/5027612 )

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Sucks to have your radio stations. Mine rotates crap through all the time.

Funny story, when I started doing curation, I wanted to get a good list to start from. I looked at the API for Jack FM because I kind of like their mix.

I knew that there was going to be a substantial amount of repetition because you hear the same stuff a lot. Turns out there API doesn't have any limits on it. If you talk to the iHeartRadio API and ask it for 20,000 of the last played songs it'll give them to you.

I went back 3 years. Their entire roster was 600 songs. As I started pulling my own curation together from their list I noticed some things were absent. I noticed that some of the things that were on the same album and were arguably better songs weren't in the curation list. My guess is that whatever catalog they were licensed to pull from they only had a certain number of top hits. A lot of the stuff was the b side of the singles, It was probably a cost savings scenario.

Later on I decided I wanted some other collections to pull from so I started pulling serious XM stations and my local radio stations. Unfortunately for this phase of the date I had to collect for a long period of time so I don't have years of history. My local radio station had 6,000 unique songs played over the period of 1 and 3/4 years. Which I never would have guessed because again you just hear the same stuff over and over but it's confirmation bias.

Obviously it's nothing like the catalog Spotify has where you might hear two new things to every old thing. But there was a fair amount of discovery there. The whole concept of adding pop as it comes in you know.

HessiaNerd ,

Gen Xer here....

It didn't use to be this bad. The FCC (and ftc) dropped the bag (regulatory capture), letting clear channel gobble up stations.

When I was a kid had a couple great local stations back in the day. One was a highschool station that local bands could send in cassette tapes and they would play them on Tuesdays. They had a Mosh Monday curated by local metalhead kids/young adults (there was vocational training at the radio station in evening classes).

Even the commercial channels were better. Not great or anything, but they had a lot more variety.

mojofrododojo ,

i love going through my music library at times, it's a treat. and yeah, gen-x. strange breakdown....

Sinistar ,
@Sinistar@lemmy.ml avatar

Inflation being a major cause is definitely on my mind, too. For the past decade basically everything has experimented with becoming a subscription service, and if people aren't doing so hot on their monthly budgets they're going to start looking for things to cut.

ThePowerOfGeek ,
@ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world avatar

Man, your comment reminded me of mp3.com back in the early days of digital music.

It had a lot of up and coming bands on it. And it allowed users the ability to create their own curated 'radio stations'. You could compile hours of music from those artists and share it with the rest of the user base. And other users could recommend songs for inclusion in your station (which also helped you discover new bands).

I created a station that was getting some decent listening numbers, and I got some good recommendations from listeners (sometimes self-promotion, but that's okay).

Then one day it was all gone. Probably related to the backlash from the record industry caused by Napster (even though, I think, mp3.com had acquired rights from those artists?). Sad times.

That's what music streaming fused with social media should be about.

aesthelete ,

A bunch of the younger guys at work were saying how they didn’t want playlists and they didn’t want to listen to an album, they just wanted to hit a button that knew their tastes musically and would give them a mix of familiar likes and new discoveries.

That's Pandora... Eventually everything like this gets boring if you are interested in music instead of musak.

I get it though. Some people really aren't that interested in music and just want some background noise. That's probably even the majority of people, but I'm not sure it's entirely an age thing.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I wanna know what is so different from my experience with Spotify. Because as far as enshittification goes, it hasn't really changed since I first began using it almost a decade ago aside from the price going up a little last year. I mean, I constantly see people saying it has ads even with premium but I have not once ever heard a single ad for anything, even for Spotify's own services on the platform, that was put there by Spotify and not simply already in a podcast that would be there from any source of listening to said podcast.

Maybe it's because most of the artists I like are fuckin dead so their shit never gets removed 🤷🏻‍♂️

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I've been using Spotify for about 15 years now, since i first had to pretend I was German to access it. It along with Steam have always been the only two services I'm happy to pay for with zero issues.

As far as my experience has gone, nothing has changed for the worse in all that time.

ShepherdPie ,

Agreed. I'm a frequent sailor of the high seas with TV and movies but I actually pay for a Spotify family plan because it's so convenient and I love the features they have like being able to use my phone app to cast music to any available nearby source or having a party and allowing multiple people to input songs to a shared playlist. I do encounter frequent bugs with all their updates but that hasn't risen above the level of mild annoyance yet.

Pirating music is such a pain in the ass these days since there is no standard naming conventions like with TV and movies and there can be multiple sources for the same song (single, album, compilation album, web rip, etc) so even tools like Lidarr don't make it easy and most public/private torrent trackers are pretty sparse when it comes to music outside of the most mainstream of mainstream albums.

Kolanaki ,
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Pirating music is such a pain in the ass these days since there is no standard naming conventions like with TV and movies

Things haven't changed much since the days of Limewire and Kazaa in that regard. I remember when System of a Down did that Zelda song! 😂

Buddahriffic ,

That one got properly labeled when I was going through a "add all the data" phase. The Rabbit Joint turns out to be the ones that made it, but that singer did sound a lot like Serj.

ShepherdPie ,

Back in those days there was a lot of options which meant you could typically find what you're looking for with the right search terms and knowing what to avoid so you didn't download an MP3 of Bill Clinton talking about Lewinski. Its definitely a lot more challenging these days since the quantity of files is lower while naming hasn't gotten any better.

XeroxCool ,

I haven't enjoyed possessing music since my phone replaced my ipod. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, but the seamless* updating of my library and playlists on iTunes and iPod was great. The poor format of the music I did pirate off limewire wasn't as big a deal - partly from the smooth UI of iTunes, partly due to lower music acquisition. I say seamless* because it was problematic when my iPods got full, having to cull the library, but I do beleive it was simple enough to drag selections and individual playlists.

But now what? I don't have a program to load my pc and phone, I never liked what I found for music management on windows, as you said formatting isn't consistent on torrents, and my phones fill with pictures faster than music. So, in comes Spotify. Anything I want on a whim, shared playlists, I do enjoy not storing music myself, the social aspect of public playlists, and an option to store things offline. It's similar reasons Netflix curtailed my pirating. But, as a warning to Spotify, if music streaming services break up content like Netflix, I won't wait to cancel my subscription. That'll be my push to start whatever suggestions I imagine I'll get here in the replies

Appoxo ,

Getting back to CDs after about 10 year hiatus.
Discogs is usually very neat.

BigPotato ,

I mean, you just have to learn everything mp3 formats and go pass the What.cd test and you're good.

ShepherdPie ,

What.cd shut down almost a decade ago.

LainTrain ,

Are there standard naming conventions for movies and TV? Where?

ShepherdPie ,

Yes, pretty much everywhere which is why you see files named something like: Forrest.Gump.1994.1080p.Bluray.DTS-MA.5.1.mkv. Movies and TV have databases like TVDB and TMDB which don't really exist for music. There are things like MusicBrainz but it's a crapshoot in my experience.

nevetsg ,

Spotify was OK back when I used it after Google Music died. YouTube Music's algorithm sucked so I used Spotify for about a year. Then I installed Plex for movies and TV but also found it was also great at streaming music. PlexAmp gives me access to a good suggestion algorithm. I made the decision to give them my $$ instead.
Now with lidarr+scripts I can have any music I want with almost zero effort. Plus, as the OP said, I get the fun little side hobby of music curation.

GhostTheToast ,

I'm curious about where you find your music. When I looked into an indexer for music ~3 years ago, it was slim pickings. I recently found that there a method to download from Spotify, but haven't had a chance to try it out

BigPotato ,

Even the Spotify downloaders are meh. I get so many errors on the few I've tried.

If you get any good recommendations, let me know.

nevetsg ,

Not sure if you mean find recommendations of new stuff to listen to, or the download source?
Recommendations from Last.fm
Download source is currently Deezer. Lidarr+ scripts has a bit of a learning curve
https://github.com/RandomNinjaAtk/arr-scripts

LainTrain ,

Man piracy is so complex nowadays with this script and Plex stuff, all I know is downloading .flac of albums from rutracker haha no docker container home server required

Black_Gulaman ,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I second this. Once I see plex and lidar and self hosting . My attention wanders. Then snap back and my mind says "torrents, got it. Thanks"

nevetsg ,

Torrents are all well and good until you want an album from more than a couple of years ago.

My current workflow. Find a band that I like. Add it to lidarr. Wait 10min. All of their albums are in Plex and can be streamed from anywhere in the world.

Spuddlesv2 ,

Really? Their made-for-you playlists are nowhere near as good as they used to be. The discover playlist is now ass. Radio plays the same 20 songs over and over and over again.

Right now the app is suggesting a Classical Piano playlist to me. I have never listened to classical piano. Ever. Most recently I’ve listened to Tool, Rage Against the Machine and a 90’s metal playlist (I’m on a 90’s kick). Why on earth would it think I want classical piano?

Proof! https://imgur.com/gallery/e0N5sE3

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Possibly because some of those bands are influenced by classical music (though I mean it's rather broad; you could probably trace most musical influences back to the classical period).

I listen to the same kinda shit as your most recent stuff and I don't have much issue with most suggestions. I don't really like the modern pop stuff, but I still get why it serves it up (most of the best 90's alternative stuff was technically pop and I like one Taylor Swift song).

Spuddlesv2 ,

If only it were that clever. I think it’s because their algorithm sees: person listens to 90’s music so person = old, old people like classical piano.

In the same way that I very occasionally play Jason Isbell and after I do so it starts throwing yeehaw-big trucks-and-gurls-in-cutoff-shorts country music at me for months afterwards.

Passerby6497 ,

person listens to 90’s music so person = old, old people like classical piano.

Oh fuck my hip, 90s is old now?

Spuddlesv2 ,

I died inside when I saw stuff I listened to in high school on “classic rock” playlists.

raynethackery ,

Wait until it hits "soft rock."

Plopp ,

I died when I saw my old video game console in a museum.

ThePowerOfGeek ,
@ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world avatar

"Radio plays the same 20 songs over and over and over again. "

So just like traditional radio stations then. ☹️

I swear, we are stuck in a loop where shitty solutions just get reinvented over and over again. And most times when sometime comes up with a genuine improvement, those in power say "oh no no no! That won't do!" and kill it. I'm Gen-X and it's been this way all my life. And probably for many generations before that too.

trslim ,

Me, still using youtube-mp3 website

SuperSpruce , (edited )

If I download music, I have access to a larger music library, the ability to change the pitch, speed, and equalizer of the music, and the freedom to choose the player that I want. Can't do that with a streaming service.

I try to support artists if I can still download the music in a DRM-free file. Just this week I made a purchase, and late last year I bought an album and a midi file to support two artists.

And this is for personal listening. I make sure to follow royalty laws and attribute the artist when the music ends up in something I publish to the Internet.

Joelk111 ,

For anyone who's a music enthusiast, having the files makes more sense. Poweramp is a way better experience than Spotify or YT Music. I loved being able to set the EQ on an album or song basis.

That said, YT Music comes with YT premium, and I'm lazy, so I do that for now. I also haven't got much of a commute right now, so I don't listen to music near as much.

Kecessa ,

PowerAmp is the only thing I found that could replace Google Music in my heart!

Mango ,

Fuck YouTube rips. V0 for life!

GreatBlueHeron ,

I'm in the process of replacing all my mp3 (including a lot of V0 and 320) with FLAC. I know that most of the time I can't tell the difference, but I did some testing and in some scenarios with some music I could tell. And, at the size of music files, disk is cheap.

IndiBrony ,
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To me, using FLAC files is like using a bay leaf in cooking. You can't always tell the difference, but you can always FEEL the difference.

Oderus ,
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Great analogy

paddirn ,

Did it ever go away?

GeekFTW ,
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Not in the slightest. Even with the last decade of 'pfft, why pirate when we have Spotify?!1' dialogues, music piracy never slowed down for a moment.

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