Who the fuck gave the cops the authority to shut people's utilities off? I can maybe understand if they meant to say the cops supervised the utility worker.
As an American, I'm betting on the US. The likely argument is that the person using their neighbor's hose still owes money to the utility company and allowing them to use water for free is allowing them to avoid consequences of non payment.
Ridiculous, but the logic seems like something I've seen many times in the US.
I've seen it in Poland in certain places too. Some residents of a multifamily block of flats have their heating turned off at all times, but the block owners still demand money of them because "they got passive heating from their neighbours heating"
ffs as if this wasn't a service you buy but a privilage to use it
I mean that makes sense at least, because otherwise the adjacent neighbours will be having to pay more as they're still heating their apparent. You do have to make some sacrifices when living in a block, that's one of them.
Well I believe if someone is benefiting from a common good, they should contribute to that good, but maybe I'm not Laissez-faire enough for this world, or "leftymemes".
I used to live in a flat Germany where I never needed to turn the heat on as I was surrounded by overheating elderly people. I did not save on heating as the counter somehow measured room temperature, but warm water/gas consumption. This was a couple of decades ago in Germany.
Because the quote poster is using it wrong. She should have replied. Quote posting is supposed to be used like a screenshot of the original post but not a screenshot.
On Xhitter it actually depends whether you want to share your story to other people reading the replies, or rather to your own followers. This case is the latter.
The "left" government of my country deciding that overt inhumanity towards refugees was not only something they could overlook, but also something that they were going to make part of their formal policy
And then years later, I transitioned. If I hadn't already have been pushed over the line, that would have done it...
I got the same response when I was helping a neighbor who needed electric repairs and had to shut off all of his power for a week. A cop saw an extension cord running between our very close homes and at least he warned us to disconnect immediately and if they saw it again they'd shut off our power.
Oh man I work with a food pantry that serves a weekly free meal and we've been trying to get a commercial fire suppression system for many months now. The county and township have been making it as difficult and slow as possible. And really expensive.
They put people from food not bombs on trial in Houston not long ago. The jury came back with a non guilty verdict because the law is fucking stupid and feeding hungry people is always good.
There was a similar case where they couldn't even get to a trial because almost every single potential juror disqualified themselves immediately when they heard what the charges were by stating they would not uphold that law (the court only want people on the jury who will plausible apply the law "neutrally")
āI am pro every law. Please put me on this jury so I can do my duty. No, I have never heard of jury nullification. Fuck the homeless, am I right your honor?ā - me desperately trying to get on this jury
Those making the money off of our basic needs also own the politicians "working for the people" (via "lobbying", aka bribery), so they essentially make the rules for themselves, and they don't like "competition", simple.
The consequence is the water is shut off. There is no avoiding that.
The neighbour is PAYING for every drop of water that comes out of the hose. Who uses that water isn't up to anyone except the neighbour since he owns the water he paid for.
Any other interpretation of property rights is due to people trying to punish the poor for their poverty.
Did that hole in the ground spontaneously appear of its own accord, or do you think it might be more likely that a professional was paid to do that, along with installing electrical equipment in the hole to bring the water to the surface for use?
My dad had a well at once house he had. Something broke on it, and the city (suburbs, but still) stepped in and forced him to pay several thousand dollars to have excavators come out and hook the house up to city water. They wouldn't let him fix the well.
Edit: I think the pump gave out, and the city stepped in because zoning laws changed since the house was built. The well was grandfathered in to old zoning laws until the pump broke.
Anecdote about living on a well. We live in a new house in the New England. The cost of our water is the cost of the electricity to run the water pump. It's not very expensive.
The best part /s about having a well is when there's a bad storm that knocks out power, we lose water.
When neighbors in the area know a storm is coming, we have to take steps like filling our bathtubs with water to use for flushing our toilets and stocking up on gallons of water from the grocery store.
I grew up with a well, I also grew up without indoor plumbing, and my father still relies on that well. We eventually installed a manual pump, but at some point the electric pump was replaced and the manual was never reinstalled.
I'll bite: Arkansas (and probably some other states that I'm less aware of)
It's an old law from the westward expansion days which says that any establishment that sells food and/or drink is not allowed to charge for the serving of water itself. Some businesses get around this by automatically upcharging for a larger size than their "standard" drink serving size (read: anything beyond "small"), or by charging for the cup, but the vast majority still follow the spirit of the law and don't charge for water because of the cultural momentum.
You're still right, though. There are costs associated with acquiring and maintaining a supply of potable water, so this law effectively forces businesses to eat the cost of the water they serve to customers. However, that's such a small percentage of a restaurant's water use that it's trivial to cover by other means.
Anywhere diarrhea isn't the norm. This means well water (holy shit is that a lot of digging) or treated water. Either way that shit costs money. The alternative is boiling. Tea and alcohol were popular for centuries for a reason. Clean Water is something of a modern luxury.
Tap water is free in Montreal, Canada. You pay for a small fixed rate along with your electricity bill, but the water pipe network is so old and leaky they never actually installed meters.
I feel like a lot of the comments are kind of proving the point. If we say we don't like Biden, then suddenly everyone assumes we aren't voting and therfore are helping Trump. In reality, the meme literally says nothing about voting. That's everyone else jumping to that conclusion.
"I'm just reminding everyone!"
Don't worry. We all know how elections work.
"I don't care if you don't like him! I care about votes!"
I don't 'like' Biden but I am voting for him. I've never 'liked' any politicians I've voted for- they're just the closest thing available to the tool I want to represent my interests in government.
You don't have to tell me you're voting for Biden but your 'not liking' him is irrelevant to me, because I do too. So if that's all you're talking about I can't help but assume you're focusing on irrelevant issues and ignoring the most important one right now- voting in 2024.
If you want to talk about specific policy goals, executive actions, legislative initiatives- I'd be interested. But if your focus is just abstract sentiments about a single politician that you only have one other, existentially shitty option for- you should expect to be dismissed by pragmatists that are focused on election outcomes.
If you ever find yourself 'liking' a politician, take a big step back. They're like lawyers- you want the most effective one you can get to represent your interests- but don't pretend they're not professional snakes that will bite you the second your interests are no longer aligned. In politics the only means you have to keep those interests aligned is voting (unless you're in the donor class but I'm assuming no one on Lemmy is).
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Also remember that we don't actually vote for the president. That's the job of the electoral college. They just want to see if we all guessed it right.
Hey guess who is the next person to be the president? C'mon tell us! I'm going to guess Biden....I'm going to guess Trump! You are both wrong! The next president is this Gala Apple š with a worm inside!
Thanks electoral college! Without you. How could we ever know who You want to rule over us all like a king?
If the electors vote for President, why should I vote in the general election?
During the general election your vote helps determine your Stateās electors. When you vote for a Presidential candidate, you arenāt actually voting for President. You are telling your State which candidate you want your State to vote for at the meeting of electors. The States use these general election results (also known as the popular vote) to appoint their electors. The winning candidateās State political party selects the individuals who will be electors.
So let me rephrase, you don't vote for president. You merely provide a suggestion like an 8ball. The government picks electors (not you). They get to vote. Again, not you. So if you forgot to vote, don't worry, it's going to happen anyway. Like if they were going to choose Edgar Allen Poe, it doesn't matter what you want, they will vote for a dead person before they care about your vote.
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