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ieightpi ,

Is there any research going on for anti-aging in cats yet?

Draedron ,

There is a vaccine that is supposed to prevent kidney failure in cats, causing their life expectancy to double

ieightpi ,

Awesome

Mango ,

Ok, but now people.

Cryxtalix ,

Doesn't that guarantee you'll die of cancer instead? Or gruesome accidents. Or both.

june ,

Coulda used that sometime before last week :/

UsernameIsTooLon ,

If it's any condolences, it's probably still a few years away from public access.

Sp00kyB00k ,

I'm sorry mate that you lost your doggo.
Take care

PeterPoopshit ,

Damn maybe that one crackhead that kidnapped a scientist to make a dog live forever was onto something.

roofuskit ,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time

Nacktmull ,
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Why, though? Greedy breeders already "produce" more dogs than there are loving families for and as a result dog shelters are constantly full with sad dogs who don´t have a home. This drug will result in shelters getting even more overcrowded. Death is a natural part of life, just as birth, I wish more people would get that.

AbsurdityAccelerator ,

This might eventually help us understand how to extend human lives.

Nacktmull ,
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But why would we want that? In my opinion that would be a mistake. The planet is already severely overpopulated and as I said, death is a natural part of life, just like birth.

Plopp ,

Yeah, what we need is something that makes dogs have shorter lives, like up to a year at most. Wait what?

Nacktmull ,
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What actually shortens the life expectancy of dogs is the kind of selective breeding for unreasonable external characteristics that has long been carried out by greedy and/or ignorant dog breeders.

GBU_28 ,

Sounds like you need to have a chat with them, not folks who own a dog they like, already.

darganon ,

Why, though?

I'm pretty cynical, but this is a new level.

Greedy breeders already "produce" more dogs than there are loving families for and as a result dog shelters are constantly full with sad dogs who don´t have a home. This drug will result in shelters getting even more overcrowded.

My dog lives longer and shelters get more crowded? That's a complete non-sequitor. Much like my choice of lunch doesn't impact your lunch situation.

Perhaps my reading comprehension is poor, but the article seems to indicate that the pill will give a dog more "active years" and not necessarily more years. I guess we'll find out in four years when it's done.

Nacktmull , (edited )
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I’m pretty cynical, but this is a new level.

Accepting death as a part of life is in no way cynical, it´s logical.

My dog lives longer and shelters get more crowded?

Don´t think only of yourself, try to see the bigger picture. Not just your dog will live longer, a lot of dogs will with that drug, resulting in less adoptions. Since commercial breeders are not going to "produce" less dogs just because of the new drug, the result of dogs living longer will be a higher population of dogs. Now considering the number of people who want to adopt a dog will decrease while the number of dogs available will increase, this will necessarily result in more dogs who don´t find/have a home. It´s really quite obvious if you think about it.

the article seems to indicate that the pill will give a dog more “active years” and not necessarily more years

The article indicates both as far as I comprehend it:

"Biotech company Loyal is developing an injectable drug, LOY-001, designed to help large breed dogs not only live longer, but stay healthy longer"

Inui ,

The message I'm taking away is that we need to ban breeders. I was already on that boat, but I don't know how that isn't your takeaway instead of arguing for people's pets to die sooner.

Nacktmull ,
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That is not what I meant to say. I argued against artificially increasing life expectancy, which does not equal arguing for decreasing natural life expectancy.

darganon ,

Not all breeders are puppy mills, or producing brachycephalic breeds, but they are out there, and there's other breeders putting longer noses on pugs and Frenchies.

Inui ,

It's not really the main point of this thread but look up breeding racks and really think if those other breeders are any more ethical.

darganon ,

Artificial insemination is common with the breeders I am familiar with. Though I'm not sure breeding racks are necessarily animal abuse, dogs in heat are fucking horny.

darganon ,

If people stop paying for dogs, they will stop breeding them to sell.

Also, I accept death as part of life, but I still look both ways before crossing the street. I'm not getting off this ride any sooner than I have to.

GBU_28 ,

I want my senior, rescue dog to live longer, as long as he's healthy and happy.

Nacktmull ,
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That is of course very sweet of you and I understand it on a personal level. You love your dog and would do anything for him and so you even wish he could live infinitely if that was possible. However, maybe you could also try to understand my reasoning as well? I was talking about human/canine society as a whole and if all humans and/or dogs would get to live, let´s say, twice as long or even become immortal, that would lead to severe problems regarding overpopulation, don´t you agree?

GBU_28 ,

I don't think there would be overpopulation. There would be changes to breeding laws. It would become much more of a "thing" to create a new life.

Nacktmull ,
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I envy your optimism.

bionicjoey ,

My dog is such a dumbass he would spit out the immortality pill even if I cover it with peanut butter

Stupidmanager , (edited )

I have 2 dogs, 1 that does this and 1 that eats everything including cat shit from the litter box. That dumbass will live forever if I give him this pill, because he’d eat his sister’s too.

bionicjoey ,

Oh don't get me wrong, mine will eat basically anything. The only thing that he will fuss about is pills. He'll eat random nuts, berries, and discarded food on the ground when I take him for a walk, but God forbid I try to give him his flea&tick for the month

Jessica ,

That dropped apostrophe on "sister's" makes that ominous on first read

Stupidmanager ,

Ack, yeah. We’ll blame the crap Vision Pro virtual keyboard. I wanted to go back and fix it, but I find the stupid thing is way too sensitive and watch as it deletes my entire paragraph.

billiam0202 ,

Have you tried something like a Pill Pocket?

My goldie-mutt would spit out every pill I ever gave her no matter how much cheese or peanut butter it was buried in, but since we started using these she gobbles them up instantly. The ding dong thinks she's getting a treat everyday but joke's on her, it's her medicine.

TipRing ,

Pill pockets worked on my cat twice. After that he was like "waitaminute! This is medicine!" So now I put the pill in the pocket and just shove it down his throat and he gets real treats afterwards.

billiam0202 ,

That's probably because your cat chews her food, while my pupper inhales food as if she's never gonna eat again, despite what every past day in her life might indicate. 😂

lagomorphlecture ,

Really? Our cat acts like pill pockets are frickin crack. She's like "GIVE ME PILL POCKETS NOW!"

TheFriar ,

Or have you guys tried giving the pill alone? My cat has multiple pills every day, I always saw my dad give my dogs pills growing up, you put it on the back of their tongue and they can’t help but swallow it. A little neck massage and some coaxing with gentle head pets and holding their head back has always worked for me. My cat doesn’t even get up when she’s lying down and hears me open the pills. She perks her head up, almost like she looks forward to it. She’s a weirdo.

billiam0202 ,

When my doggo was younger, we would just do that- drop it in the back of her throat then hold her mouth shut and massage her throat to encourage her to swallow. But now that she's on a vet-prescribed regimen for probably the rest of her life, it's just easier to pop a pill in the meat pouch since she just gobbles them up.

deafboy ,
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Leftists: Only the rich will get the longevity drugs!

Reality: Let's give it to the dogs...

edit: And they fucking deserve it, after what we did to them by years of selective breeding!

richieadler ,

Yeah, because surely the drug is the same...

londos ,

People will try taking it.

b3an ,
@b3an@lemmy.world avatar

hydroxychloroquine 💅🤦‍♂️

PsychedSy ,

That shit is poison. I'll take a monthly covid infection if I can get rid of the hcq.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Oh my god, they will

bionicjoey ,

Plot twist: it turns you into an immortal furry-anthro-dog

Jarix ,

Sold. Beats NOT being immortal. If im immortal ill have time to fix it, eventually

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Do you want a fate worse than death? Because that's how you get a fate worse than death.

I feel like people are learning nothing from Black Mirror. If you've got an out before immortality is discovered, you take it.

Jarix ,

I'm fine with the chances. We only get one life and I would like to see a much of it i can before it's curtains.

I got to experience life before and after the interenet already. Want to see what other revolutions will happen and how the world changes

gravitas_deficiency ,

And I can make an educated guess as to who will be suggesting it.

roofuskit ,

Reality: "let's test it on the dogs."

How do people not see that this is the ultimate subscription fee?

werefreeatlast ,

What about for Senior Frogs????

I wanna be young at senior frogs!

Chee_Koala ,

What about Senior Hogs???????

boonhet ,

I believe pharmaceutical companies already sell drugs to temporarily give extra life to senior hogs.

x4740N ,
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I was trying to figure out why the one dog in this picture looked so weird

Turns out it's two dogs

beckerist ,

The article doesn't say how this works at all.

It sounds awesome, but I'd like to know more about it before I gave my dog a magic chewable.

ryannathans ,

LOX-002 inhibits insulin like growth factor 2 which is thought to reduce useful lifespans of dogs through some metabolic mechanism

SanndyTheManndy ,

wait. metformin does the same thing.

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