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TheFeatureCreature ,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

It's almost like it's a requirement for every landscaping company to use the most noisy, ear destroying, gas-powered leaf blower that they can buy that can be heard from 2 city blocks over.

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

Probably. lol. You look out the window to see what's making all that racket, and you see their logo on their truck / shirts.

mbirth ,

Especially gas-powered as they can then rev them all the time, raising the annoyance to completely new levels.

thejml ,

It’s advertising!

ColeSloth ,

Gas powered is still vastly superior for things like leafblowers. A good gas one can last 15 years and take a total of $40 in maintenance parts for that entire time, all while blowing harder. High end battery powered ones will last 45 minutes and need a couple hundred dollars worth of replacement batteries every few years. My stihl from 1997 still works like it's new.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

For 99% of applications, a corded electric blower with an extension cord is far superior than every other option.

ShepherdPie ,

I actually own one of these but never use it because extension cords are such a pain in the ass especially if you need to stretch it all throughout the yard. I really only bought it because my dryer duct was clogged with 20 years worth of lint and this blew it right out.

ColeSloth ,

Sure, if you need less power and want to deal with the extension cord, and where you're blowing is within 100 feet of an outlet. Doesn't work well for gutters or large properties or houses with only 1 or 2 outlets outside.

Huh. I can't think of 297 other uses for a leaf blower, so I guess your 99% claim might be a bit....overblown.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

How high are your fucking gutters?

ColeSloth ,

? Not high enough to keep leaves from plugging them up. I mean, I could technically get it done with a huge extension cord, but that would be a terrible pain in the ass.

littlewonder ,

Just one nitpick -- usually one can swap out batteries and continue to use the tool.

ColeSloth ,

30 minutes from a $100 battery vs an hour from a $1.25 in fuel, no recharging, and no batteries that go bad.

0x0 ,

Too bad no one invented rakes yet.

wildbus8979 ,

You ever tied using a metal rack on pavement? It's about as pleasant as nails on a chalkboard.

bolexforsoup , (edited )
spoiler

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0x0 ,

Kinda, although recent vacuum cleaners are way less noisier than gas-powered leaf-blowers.

Dieinahole ,

Well now I want a gas-powered vacuum

BruceTwarzen ,

Jackhammers are so loud, haven't they heard of a hammer yet? I am very smart btw.

Fiivemacs ,

Jackhammer and a hammer are not doing the same job. Pickaxe is more akin to a jackhammer.

out ,

Okay

Jackhammers are so loud, haven't they heard of a pickaxe yet? I am very smart btw.

Faresh ,

What do leaf blowers do that rakes don't? I don't remember the last time I saw or heard a leaf blower.

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

what they did :

"Our product takes in a full blow of air and separates it," said team member Leen Alfaoury. "Some of that air comes out as it is, and part of it comes out shifted. The combination of these two sections of the air makes the blower less noisy."

Adds Chacon: "It ultimately dampens the sound as it leaves, but it keeps all that force, which is the beauty of it."

Their design cuts the most shrill and annoying frequencies by about 12 decibels, which all but removes them, making them 94% quieter.

cactusupyourbutt ,

wtf is shifting?

gravitas_deficiency ,

The wording is comically awkward and imprecise. But if I had to guess, they figured out a way to fiddle with how the air is routed through the secondary portion such that the emitted noise is phase-shifted to cancel out the frequencies they’re targeting.

dditty ,
@dditty@lemm.ee avatar

Seems baffling

Tyfud ,

Eeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy

gravitas_deficiency ,

But you can’t deny it has a certain flow to it

curiousPJ ,

I wonder if that shares the same physics as silvent's compressed air guns.

Silvent’s air nozzles reduce the sound level when blowing with compressed air compared to blowing through open pipes. This is due in part to the reduction in noisy turbulence from using Silvent’s air nozzles, and also because of the nozzles’ special design. Silvent’s air nozzles pass the compressed air through small holes and slots, which raises the sound to frequencies beyond what the human ear can perceive. This allows us to make blowing with compressed air both quiet and efficient.

Could use an even quieter compressed air gun

A_A ,
@A_A@lemmy.world avatar

No, not the same ... in your paragraph you describe an increase of the frequency at a level human hearing do not perceive while the other made cancellation of a given frequency using phase shifting and recombination.

aniki ,

This does nothing to address the lovely whirl of a 2 stroke.

catloaf ,

Electric leafblowers exist. That problem is already solved.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Wat? I can't hear you over the eeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeEeeeEeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUMMbumbumbumbumbumbumbumbumeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

explodicle ,

Middlebrow dismissal. These are designed for electric blowers.

astrsk ,

Too bad these innovations wont make it down to the workers that stores hire from 11pm to 3am to clean the store parking lot across from me.

crazyminner ,

Good thing is you could 3d print some and give them to them. If they use a compatible blower that is. Or if you're handy with modeling you could probably modify the attachment part.

explodicle ,

(10 hours of work later)

"Ok how much money will this save me for the risk of your plastic thing melting all over my blower."

Diplomjodler3 ,

Cue right wingers protesting the new "woke" leaf blowers.

MrVilliam ,

No, they've moved on to "DEI" as their racist dogwhistle now. Keep up.

ShepherdPie ,

"I'd never even heard of this 2 weeks ago, but after watching a single 90-second segment on Fox News, it's all I can talk about and clearly the reason why the country is failing!"

BruceTwarzen ,

I'll let my gas powered leaf blower running all day now to make your woke blower useless. Get owned, sucker

Diplomjodler3 ,

There certainly are plenty of people who use those things because they enjoy being obnoxious twats.

Fiivemacs , (edited )

I use things that work (even if you find them loud or annoying) because typically over engineered things (like the 'quiet' leafblower) are most likely very problematic and will fail. I just do not trust anything new anymore. Companies did this and forced me to stop caring about 'innovation' with their constant lies and fraud.

Edit downvotes clearly from people who are pissed they have to replace their expensive appliances every 5-7 years because 'innovation'

TimeSquirrel , (edited )
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

No we obviously need more cheap plastics that will dry rot in your shed and shitty rubber grips that will turn to sticky goo in five years, as well as lowest bidder designed control circuitry with a dozen corners cut.

I get what you mean, modern power tools feel like Fisher Price toys. They're disposable.

What happened to the giant metal vacuum cleaners that doubled as a blunt-force weapons?

PlutoniumAcid ,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, don't diss Fisher Price toys. The old ones from 40+ years ago were solid. So much so that the iconic telephone on wheels and with eyes is still around.

Modern day crap though? Oh I'm with you!

spidermanchild ,

Maybe the garbage brands. Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita, etc are very well made, and significantly more powerful than they were 5-10 years ago.

Diplomjodler3 ,

Yeah, I figure that's the kind of thing they're going to say.

MonkderDritte ,

I use things that work

Blowing leaves around instead of removing it, isn't ideal then.

catloaf ,

Leafblowers are used to collect it into a pile which is then raked/shoveled into a bin. The blower is much faster and less effort than the rake at collecting everything into the pile.

PlutoniumAcid ,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

No, that's what a rake does.

Mbourgon ,

Everyone I see using them merely uses it to blow the detritus into the street. What you’re saying makes a lot of sense, but people don’t do that

catloaf ,

Yeah, well, you can't fix stupid.

Although if there isn't that much, I suppose letting it dry and break down in the local environment is better than putting it in a landfill. If there's a lot of it, then at least in cities I've lived in, they can and do ticket for putting yard waste or shoveling snow in the street.

Fiivemacs ,

Do you think a leaf BLOWER sucks leaves up or does anything but blow them wherever you point the machine?

Your thinking of a leaf vacuum which the article is NOT referring too...

What was the point of your reply, I really don't get it..

callouscomic ,

The same kind of morons rolling coal and destroying their engines.

thejml ,

I instantly imagined someone rolling coal with their leaf blower… you know it’s going to happen, even if they’re not diesel.

RvTV95XBeo , (edited )

Seeing how some very particular relatives are, I wonder if much of the gas leaf blower crowd is less "watch me stick it to the libs" and more "look at me, I'm cleaning my yard, that makes me better than you"

Buddahriffic ,

And by "cleaning my yard" they really mean "blowing whatever I consider a mess onto whatever is beside my yard, or in the general vicinity for the dust".

Unlikelyvillain ,

This is very true. I just know my neighbour wouldn’t choose a quieter option if he had the chance

errer ,

Blowing coal lel

Isoprenoid ,

Cue the left-wingers being rage-baited about the right wingers protesting the new "woke" leaf blowers.

All the while the leaf blower manufacturer is getting free publicity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06yy88tLWlg

Blackmist ,

Coming soon: The all new, all American, COAL powered leaf blower.

Now with a slide whistle and megaphone attachments for extra annoying noises.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,
ramjambamalam ,

Whistle goes, "Woo, woo," but that's only in the mo'ning.

https://youtu.be/zUXow3d3-b0?si=gr_4SDhNm3yUH0A6

Dendr0 ,

"Patent pending" and already picked up by a major manufacturer. So what this means is basically while it could be a good thing... the article is basically an advertisement for an upcoming product.

Not nearly as good a thing until it gets copied/the patent gets worked around. Also, zero explanation of what was actually done to accomplish this, so again, leaning more towards "this is just advertisement with extra steps".

Wrench ,

Man. People will be negative about everything.

New breakthrough that may change the entire landscape of an industry? Oh, we hear about breakthroughs every few weeks. Call me if it actually makes it to market.

New apparently game changing breakthrough that's already being taken to market? Boo advertising, we should just quiet launch it and see if anyone notices? Seriously?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

IMHO, the thing that’s being promoted here isn’t the leaf blower. It’s the university’s engineering program and the opportunities it’s providing for students.

I kind of doubt someone has this University blog post in their deck of Spring 2024 leaf blower marketing initiatives.

This is the kind of stuff that the people managing internships handle in a company. Companies do this for talent acquisition. They don’t even do it for the cheap labor, because coaching students usually gobbles up a lot of your IC’s time.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Good engineering and industrial design programs find opportunities for students to work with real companies on real products.

Back in the day I used to be the student that published stuff like this to our product design department’s website. The point wasn’t to demo tech or sell a product, it was to make the program look like something worth applying to and donating to.

If a brand was name dropped, it wasn’t because we wanted to sell their thing. It was because we wanted to let applicants and alumni know that we were offering real world experience with recognizable companies. It’s basically like a reverse internship. Department faculty finds companies to bring to the students, as opposed to students applying to companies.

MxM111 ,

Now do the trimmers and the lawnmowers

Fish ,

What about hair dryers?

MxM111 ,

Do them too!

boaratio ,

I invented a leaf blower that is 100% silent and is shaped like a rake.

Takumidesh ,

Let me just rake up all this sand and grass clippings.

amongstthetrees ,
@amongstthetrees@lemmy.ml avatar

Too bad there isn’t one shaped like a broom.

boaratio ,

I think we're on to something here. Like, different rakes for different things to rake up. Brilliant!

antlion ,

Interesting, my rake makes some sounds when I use it. It’s pretty loud on hard surfaces.

explodicle ,

That's way too expensive. I just use my fingers.

ShepherdPie ,

Can I borrow them to clean my yard? I promise I'll get them right back to you.

topinambour_rex ,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

It been brought by Black & Decker, no ?

Imgonnatrythis ,

It looks like it was sponsored by black and decker but the whole article looks like an ad for Dewalt...

Chip_Rat ,

Black and Decker owns DeWalt.

LodeMike ,

Yes its called not gas powered.

Ghostalmedia , (edited )
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

This is about making an electric leaf blower even quieter. The students were not given a gas leaf blower to design around.

darklamer ,
@darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

How could you possibly know this!?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

A spirt visited me and told me this.

Luckily that spirt read the article and watched the video in it.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

For the people not reading the article. This is not about gas leaf blowers.

The challenge was to take an electric leaf blower and make it even quieter.

craigers ,
@craigers@lemmy.world avatar

Can I get those STL files? I'm gonna print one for each of my neighbors

Tikiporch ,

No, the university gets to license it and squeeze all the cash out first. Try again in 15 years.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

🏴‍☠️

prayer ,

Here's the email of one of the students that were involved in the project. Try directly reaching out to them:

Madison Morrison: mmorr114@jh.edu

partial_accumen ,

Dyson gets shit on frequently for being overpriced, but the audible analysis they do one some of their products is crazy complex. Some years ago I watched 30 minute video on the design they did for the hair dryer where they were designing minute angles in the fins of the air impeller, and using a PWM algorithm to measure backpressure in a feed back loop to spin up the fan where it wouldn't create loud noise while also increasing the volume of air moved. They tuned the mechanisms specifically to shave off tiny peaks in oscilloscope readings.

One thing I remember is that they said they couldn't entirely eliminate the specific annoying sound frequencies because it had to ramp, but what they did is ramp to right below the annoying sound frequency level, then hold, then burst above the annoying frequency band very quickly. So the operator of the unit doesn't hear the annoying sound because the device shoots past it so fast.

I've never heard of any company be that picky and put so much effort into avoiding one negative experience of a product.

callouscomic ,

And then they go and make an idiotic bathroom hand air dryer that is vertical and unnatural to dip hands into and too small of an opening so as to be difficult to not touch it with your clean hands.

partial_accumen ,

They released that original Airblade hand drying 18 years ago in 2006 way before the hair dryer.

11 years ago In 2013 they released the Airblade V which doesn't do the vertical dip thing.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b8d731ee-8ded-4190-8528-36620e657154.png

callouscomic ,

Well, I see the old one 99 times more often than the new one.

I'm talking about this piece of crap design.

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/4e50444a-faab-4075-b88a-17c9341fb377.webp

Flipper ,

Maybe I've got small hands, but I've never had problems with them. I slightly cup my hands. At least it feels like they get dryer faster that way.

UntitledQuitting ,

That came way before the hair dryer, no?

purplemonkeymad ,

Maybe it was just me but I never had issues with the u shaped dryers. Although I normally put my hands in by the side, wrists above, kept them flat, and drew out slowly. Dry hands every time.

Other dryers just end up pushing water to the dry side of your hand.

whereisk ,

Haven't these been shown to be literally the proverbial shit hitting the fan in terms of spreading bacterial matter everywhere?

pr06lefs ,

Yes they literally pull in particles from the bathroom air and blow them directly on your hands.

whereisk ,

Plus a good chunk of people only wash hands for show: the water runs for 1 sec it barely touches their fingertips, then go on to these dryers and whatever is on their hands flies out everywhere.

zik ,

All this tells me is that they have a great PR department.

ammonium , (edited )

I have to run out of the bathroom when my wife uses her Dyson hair dryer because it hurts my ears, and you're telling me this is by design?!

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Wait until you find out the analysis they do on car door closing sounds and the clickiness of specific buttons! Industrial Design is COOOL.

Cypher ,

Buying industrial buttons and modding old controllers isn’t really mainstream but damn it should be.

A NES controller with switches and joysticks normally used in a combine harvester is really satisfying.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

Haha no that’s not what I meant. Industrial Design is a profession and automotive industrial designers design all sorts of things, from the shape of the body to the swoopiness of a headlight to the specific clacky feel of various buttons.

Blaster_M , (edited )

Meanwhile, Subaru phoned it in with their window switches...

CoriolisSTORM88 ,

Not necessarily for sound, on industrial fans and drives, we can program in skip frequencies to avoid any resonance issues in the system. I've never done it for noise reduction. But I do some tweaks for efficiency and power consumption reduction. There's some wild industrial design stuff out there, and in the end, it's because it provides something the customer wants. I won't go into specifics, but you can design the same components the same for multiple manufacturers and do some slightly different things in its construction to give the vibe the OEM wants, or to fix some inherent characteristics in the manufacturers platform. It's REALLY cool when you think about it. Sorry to be so vague, but I have to be.

CptEnder ,

They also really really work well, theyre over engineered like crazy but last forever.

BritishJ ,

Maybe the old Dysons. The new ones are rubbish. Shark all the way.

TheGrandNagus ,

Newer ones don't. They're usually dead in 2-4 years.

KillingTimeItself ,

this is pretty cool but it'd be cooler if the started supporting right to repair. As far as i can care they're cunts until they stop producing manufactured e-waste products.

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