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Lost_My_Mind ,

Source: DUH!!!!

Xantar ,

Another study: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/b60e96a8-e225-40bd-8c74-f869e04b4e13.jpeg

then_three_more ,

Peer review https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/007/242/no_shit_sherlock.jpg

Grass ,

the only irl person I know says it like: "no, shit-sherlock" and that's just how I read it in my head now

orca ,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

I just installed Nobara today so I could finally rid myself of Windows hell and it’s been amazing.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Is that a linux distro?

Quik ,

It is, a gaming focused Fedora distro to be exact.

Dudewitbow ,

Nobara is a Fedora distro(essentially backed by IBM) by Glorious Eggroll (developer who made Proton GE) designed to be more gaming user oriented, as many of its preincluded configs and applications were tailored to gamers.

TxzK ,
@TxzK@lemmy.zip avatar

Calling Fedora IBM backed feels so wrong but technically true I guess.

sasquash ,

I am currently using Fedora mostly for gaming. I wonder what's different to Nobara?

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

From their site:

Fedora with user-friendly fixes added.

It seems the fixes are mostly related to better onboarding and avoiding the terminal for basic stuff, like adding yum repos. If you're already familiar with Linux it shouldn't offer you much beyond the nice-to-have kernel patches and better Nvidia compatibility.

sasquash ,

Thx. Nvidia compatibility was the only problem I had so far. But I could solve it myself. Will check Nobara maybe the next time I get issues.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

It's also preinstalled with Steam and Lutris, and includes a pile of graphical tweaks for running games and video editing suites like daVinci Resolve, etc.

I_Miss_Daniel ,

Lol I read that as Norton at first!

taiyang ,

I just installed Norton Anti-Virus Suite and it's been amazing. I haven't been able to use my computer since!

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

No chance the crypto-mining trojan can make any money for it's creator, Norton uses up all available processing power doing whatever the fuck it is that it does.

librejoe ,

Norton OS. It's just full of trials to their software.

orca ,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

Oh god why lmao. NortonOS™️

sailingbythelee ,

I want to do the same, but I'm on the fence between Nobara and Bazzite.

orca ,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

Bazzite looks like it’s way more customizable and expanded. I might actually dual boot it out of curiosity.

JeeBaiChow ,

Microsoft: trust us bro!

maegul ,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Kinda funny, not too long ago it was a fun mental exercise if you were paying attention to the tech industry to try to think of the ways in which Google or MS could fall.

Now, AFAICT, neither are falling any time soon, but there certainly seems to be a shift in how they're perceived and how their brand sits in the market (where even so I'm still probably in a bubble on this).

But I'm not sure how predictable it would have been that both would look silly stumbling for AI dominance.

And, yea, I'm chalking recall up to the AI race as it seems like a grab for training data to me, and IIRC there were some clues around that this could be true.

orca ,
@orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

Microsoft has become a weird one. On the side of things like GitHub and VSCode, they’ve done really well and have fostered amazing tools. I have friends that work on the developer side of things there and love it. But then you look at Windows and it’s a damn abomination. It’s easily one of the most anti-consumer pieces of software in existence.

sirico , (edited )
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

How has it taken them this long to publish the story? Real frontline tech journos

NaibofTabr ,

If you’re faced with the tradeoff between security and another priority, your answer is clear: Do security. In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features or providing ongoing support for legacy systems. This is key to advancing both our platform quality and capability such that we can protect the digital estates of our customers and build a safer world for all.

Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, 03 May 2024

You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

muntedcrocodile ,

Unfortunatly had to upgrade to windows11 thank god for tiny11, winutil, MAS, and virtualbox.

librejoe ,

If you don't need winapps/battery life start looking into Linux

muntedcrocodile ,

Ohh i only run windows in a vm. Am loving the linux propaganda this might finally be the year of the linux desktop.

librejoe ,

Oh lol good. The only issue I have with Linux is laptops and battery life. It's a YMMV situation as some have same or better battery life, while some it's alot worse than windows even with tools like tlp and stuff.

TheGrandNagus ,

And for battery life, see if you can find any info on what others have got with your machine. I've got anything from a fair bit better, to the same, to an absolute catastrophe.

fox2263 ,

How different is this vs the previous feature which was their version of apples Time Machine?

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemmy.world avatar

This isn’t file backup. This takes a screenshot every few minutes, OCRs it, and stores all that in an unencrypted SQLite file in your user folder for anyone to grab.

Basically anything on your screen is recorded and stored, theoretically forever.

fox2263 ,

What use is it if it its not backup?

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Data harvesting.

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's fed to an ai. Supposedly so you can ask it "what's this product and where can I buy it fast" instead of using your fingers like a normal person.

barsquid ,

Exactly. You know how people are suspicious that they were talking about something and later see ads for it? Microsoft will now capture all your inputs to build an ad profile. "It doesn't leave your computer," yeah your computer just makes hyper-specific requests for ads.

zerofk ,

Don’t worry, DRM-ed content isn’t recorded, so big companies’ IP is protected.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Always keep Netflix open and playing to stay safe?

Rinox ,

I think only the player is blocked, and would be shown in the screenshots as a black rectangle

Wispy2891 ,

So it’s not a new feature. Since windows 95 print screen can’t screenshot videos for technical issues. Instead of fixing the bug they’re promoting it to feature

Rinox ,

It's not a bug, it's 110% intentional and not only for the windows default screenshot utility. The whole pipeline is built in such a way to prevent you from taking screenshots or capturing video of a DRM protected player.

Even in Linux, afaik, you can't simply take screenshots or record a Netflix movie playing in the browser. Yes there are ways, but not with the default applications (you need to break the encryption)

Wispy2891 ,

I remember that in the windows 9x age I tried taking screenshots of the matrix avi and all I got was a black rectangle. I assumed that it was how the graphics worked as when pasted in paint it would act like a “hole” where if you moved the window it stayed in the place of the video player. Like if it’s not in the graphic buffer because it’s an accelerated directx video or something like that. Not an expert and also more than 20 years passed and my memory is wonky

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

That's precisely how the old ATI TV tuner cards worked. They masked part of your display and any pixels that were the mask color became the video player, because the decoding and injection into your video signal was happening in hardware on the tuner card, not on your regular graphics card.

This allowed you to do dumb stunts like scribble hot magenta areas anywhere on your screen with MS Paint and the scribbled areas would magically become video from the TV tuner.

Xantar ,

Make Mario my desktop background and stay protected forever by the holy power of Nintendo's lawyers.

perviouslyiner , (edited )

Can you add a banknote or EURion symbol somewhere to dissuade image-processing software?

librejoe ,

Kirbo will step in with Luigi with a cross.

ndondo ,

If the data stays on a local device why is drm protection even necessary 🤔

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Because it is locally accessible and could be distributed elsewhere. I guess? I'm not sure what kind of copyrights can be broken by a screenshot in the first place.

aard ,
@aard@kyu.de avatar

As a non-Windows-user I see that as a good thing. LLMs are not going away - but that kind of nonsense at least will make sure all PCs will eventually have cheap and reasonably fast AI acceleration. Which is required for killing off centrally hosted LLMs (plus nvidias cash grabbing)

trollbearpig , (edited )

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Just like crypto obsesion gave us cheap crypto chips in all personal computers? Get real dude, this is just a way for them to steal even more data from people. Nothing good will come from this. Quite the oposite, we will see yet another price increase in hardware because all AI dumbasses will hoard them yet again. Don't forget these are the same morons that were pushing for cryptos and nfcs hahaha. These are people who believe in magic free money, too bad they sometimes get it because our society is built by retards. I really can't stand people looking for a possitive in this dissaster ...

SuperSpruce ,

The NPUs are good, provided that they can be used the same way dedicated GPUs are used: By 3rd party applications to accelerate certain intensive tasks when you demand them.

However, shoehorning AI into the OS itself definitely screams buzzwords. AI and OS's are polar opposites: You want an OS to be fast, predictable, and reliable. AI is currently slow, extremely unpredictable, and hallucinatory (i.e. unreliable).

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

How does this make Microsoft money? What's their path to selling the result of this feature?

elxeno ,

Probably targeted ads, since they claim the data doesn't leave the device, they get the AI to figure out what type of ads to show.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

This. The answer is always ads.

elxeno ,

And they get it for free, using your electricity and hardware for the AI and also avoids some liability that comes with your personal data/EU compliance.

exanime ,

You need to drop big money for the new PCs that can run this crap... Plus you can bet they'll mine your data and sell you off like a chubby prostitute from the 1800s

librejoe ,

This, they are getting kickbacks from laptop OEMs because people will now need to buy expensive computers again. They were stagnating there for a while finding a way to charge people alot who only need a PC for basic tasks, and now they will be buying a laptop basically the same price as a entry/mid gaming laptop. Now you cannot use price to say "oh windows laptops are cheaper than macs". That's out the door. As I said above though, disregarding privacy, Chromebooks are what most people only need for their day to day tasks, and arm based ones last super long on a single charge.

Treczoks ,

FTFY: Windows feature that screenshots everything labeled is a security “disaster”

XEAL ,

So Windows 11 has a built-in keylogger!

Rinox ,

If only that. This is much more invasive

thetreesaysbark ,

Jesus Christ. All these requirements for something most people didn't ask for:

System requirements for Recall

Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:

A Copilot+ PC

16 GB RAM

8 logical processors

256 GB storage capacity

    To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free

    Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space
Spider2013 ,

I’ll just stick with my 4-core cpu then…
Edit: is logical both core and threads?

Pogogunner ,

Yes. A CPU has both physical cores and logical threads. These are both considered logical CPUs.

For example, if you ran cat /proc/cpuinfo on Linux you would see something like this (First processor is processor 0)

processor : 23

model name : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor

So your 4 core CPU likely has hyperthreading and would meet the requirements for Microsoft recall

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least hopefully companies will stop selling laptops with 8Gb of soldered ram.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

Sounds like the way around this is to make swap space take up the drive up to 24 GB. Then trim the swap space as you need it.

I know it says "to enable" but let's be real here. It's going to be a placebo switch.

bionicjoey , (edited )

I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't have fixed-size swap. It uses pagefiles.

Edit: apparently pagefiles can be given a static size as well.

iamjackflack ,

This can be specified manually to be static

bionicjoey ,

Oh, neat! I had no idea. Still, the term "swap" would be incorrect.

ChanSecodina ,

A “swap” file is for holding pages of memory that have been swapped from RAM to disk.

lightnsfw ,

Every update :

"Let's get Recall set up for you!!!!" <microscopic cancel button>

CosmicTurtle0 ,

If it's anything like the "sign into your Microsoft account to continue" bullshit, there will be no cancel button. You'll need to cast an archaic spell where you summon a spirit from the Netherworld, who then just gives you a 60 minute lecture on enshitification and why you should install Arch.

lemmytellyousomething ,

Microscopic "Maybe later" button in the USA...

Normal sized "No" button in Europe...

Voroxpete ,

Europe keeps on proving that we can in fact regulate these companies, and it's fucking pathetic how the US and Canada don't.

librejoe ,

Wait for them to find a way that everyone will run out and buy 1k+ laptops now. Disregarding privacy, most people only need Chromebooks nowadays.

Valmond ,

That's a quite normal PC right? Not that I want it though lol good heavens.

When I think about it my daily only have 4 cores, oh no cant use it (I'm on Linux too, so sad ).

Or am I missing something with "copilot pc", does it have to have som special hardware? Asking out of morbid curiosity.

Voroxpete ,

Yeah, it has to have certain specific types of CPU. They're making this a requirement for all Windows 11 machines if you want to keep receiving security updates. It's going to create a mountain of e-waste.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

They're not amazing specs. All but the most budget of PCs sold in 2024 would have those specs.

It's notable as a required minimum though. There's an implication (not necessarily true) that at some times this feature may require a significant portion of those resources.

Like if your browser was burning away on 8 cores using 16g of RAM you'd notice.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.

Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.

neo ,

No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It's "edge computing". Which would imply to me that it runs on my router...? Anyway, it's not the cloud, it's edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don't worry. You won't need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍

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