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MockingMoniker ,

Set furry porn as your desktop.

nutsack ,

no don't do this

MockingMoniker ,

That will punish those who violate your privacy.

Cognitive_Dissident ,

Oh, didn't you get the memo? All your data are belong to Microsoft </sarcasm>

harmsy ,
@harmsy@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/61ee6624-eea9-4429-987c-7a4e41855039.jpeg

Cognitive_Dissident ,

Exactly.

asexualchangeling ,

Personally i'm all for it, no one I know likes it and even the most aggressive linux hater I know has switched to saying that they'll probably try it after win 10 eol

Best advertising campain I've ever seen, just not for the product they are trying to advertise

JackbyDev ,

lol, the Linux adoption accelerationism.

Phegan ,

I use Linux for work and windows for home. I will be swapping to Linux full time when win10 eol

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemmy.world avatar

I hate this feature but if that UI is real it's beautiful

LiveLM ,

It's not, it just a marketing image.
Say what you will about Microsoft and Win11 but their 3D animated trailers and marketing images look amazing

filcuk ,

There's a gif at the bottom of the article. Looks similar to any video scrubbing interface.

Xylight ,
@Xylight@lemmy.world avatar

Idk but Microsoft does their modern UIs really well. just don't open the properties menu or anything there's nothing there I promise

shotgun_crab ,

If they just had a consistet UI style It'd be much better

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

How many screenshots of security "disasters" does a person really need?

Cornpop ,

Who even wants this? What good is it? I see no use case.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Microsoft is talking control over its ecosystem. Will it police your os for piracy? Look at what you do so it can sell you products? The use case is infinite once they have the data

onion ,

People keep years worth of browser history, until finding something in there becomes harder than searching the web. I see no use for that either, but everyone I've asked insisted they need it. They couldn't really spell out why either

Syrc ,

For me it’s nostalgia and being a sucker for statistics, mostly.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Same. I think it's neat. But not "Yeah I trust you Microsoft" neat.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

There's a lot of negatives such that I certainly would never want it, but the ability to search everything I've ever looked at would be handy.

gnuplusmatt ,

the idea is good, but the reality is it gives anyone the ability to search everything you've ever looked at. If the data exists it can be exploited. for ill or profit

meliaesc ,

I really don't need a screenshot of my bank login or account numbers in the cloud 🤷🏽‍♀️ it's a cool concept in theory, I'll give it that, but reality is harsh.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

To clarify, it's not stored in the cloud in this iteration... although storing it even locally is a risk.

fruitycoder ,

I love the idea of exo brain/second brain where AI helps me keep track of all of my stuff and recall stuff.

But I want to extend myswlf not assimilate to the Microsoft Borg collective lol

JackbyDev ,

Smart phones pretty much already fulfill this role.

fruitycoder ,

Close for sure. Connectivity and being persistent storage of info/experience tho7gh notes and pictures, but the retrieval is lack luster and there doesn't tend to do a lot of knowledge creation on that info on its own.

jaschen ,

I would 100% use this. I have ADHD and having the ability to recall something I did days or even weeks ago and query things I did in the past is amazing.

"Hey, I messed up my home assistant automation and can't remember what my old automation was that was working. Can you find it?"

"I had a meeting a month ago with my boss Collen and he showed me a deck about this or that data point. Bring that power point deck up".

The use cases are endless. This is literally a game changer.

glitchdx ,

yes, but it should be opt-in not opt-out. It should not exist in my os unless I install it myself.

I could apply this line to so many things microsoft put into windows since xp.

fatalError ,

Do you think that someone who needs this feature would remember to turn it on? /s

jaschen ,

There is an opt out option. You even get 50gb of space back when you do. You can even set which apps can or can't be part of the recall program. You can delete all the data like how you would delete browser history.

I think the main thing is that you're in control of the data.

nutsack ,

i can't wait to show it my nuts

jaschen ,

"Sorry, Microsoft cannot recall your nuts. We haven't developed the technology to zoom in to that level of details."

Sorry for that. It was just too easy to pass up.

nutsack ,

thank you Steven

Cuntessera ,
@Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

I also have ADHD and would benefit from it just like you said, however, I wouldn’t trust Microsoft with anything related to privacy & security based on their track record. This is going to be the last piece in a huge puzzle that makes me switch to macOS confidently.

jaschen ,

Very fair.

douglasg14b ,
@douglasg14b@lemmy.world avatar

If it was local only, and more security focused I would 100%.

My ADHD. brain needs an AI assistant.

FuryMaker ,

Audit trail in a corporate environment maybe. Assuming non-Microsoft admins have access to that data, it could be a benefit.

Can't imagine the risk it introduces though.

And resource usage overhead.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Great for mining data to use in the next iteration of ChatGPT

bamfic ,

investors. c.f. enshittification

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I miss when Microsoft was just evil and greedy and not stupid.

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

Is it stupid? I doubt MS cares about the absolutely miniscule amount of people who will care enough to complain about this. Those people would probably just turn the feature off, or use a different OS, anyway. Catering to that audience isn't something MS cares about.

The average user won't do a thing. MS gets to outsource the computational work of all this spying to their users and then hoover up the data at the end. Microsoft stands to gain a lot from this in the markets where it will be allowed to fly.

jaybone ,

No shit.

solsangraal ,

no one does enshittification quite like the masters of it at ms

Valmond ,

Embrace, Extend, Enshittify I guess it is nowadays.

Grass ,

don't forget de-extend

librejoe ,

Microsoft claims it's offline, but how sure can we be? I smell what the rock is cooking.

tron ,
@tron@midwest.social avatar

Even if it was 100% offline. For how long? Microsoft can change that with a patch at any time. Suddenly all your personal files are being fed into GPT with no consent.

librejoe ,

No more windows for me. I've been back and forth with windows 11 and Linux but been on Linux for awhile. Last windows I used full time was 7

wagesj45 ,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

Not even completely removing Windows from your life will help. Anyone you interact with through email or instant message or social media will have screen-scraped copies of the entire interaction. And that would be bad enough if only a single person gets hacked and has their Recall data hijacked. There will be huge databases available that people will be able to freely cross reference. They'll still be able to build a quite extensive profile on you just through all of your interactions that get scraped from others.

librejoe ,

Yes I'm aware. I've been down that path, and sadly there's no escape no matter what tor this or VPN that you use with a privacy centric app. We can however minimize what is being data mined.

graymess ,

Doesn't matter. If your PC is ever compromised, that feature is a one stop shop for stealing everything you have ever done on your computer.

librejoe ,

Bye bye windows

jaschen ,

It's using a snapdragon elite specific chip that can handle the AI offline.

While we don't yet know if it can be a hackers wet dream, we do know that there are use cases for it

librejoe ,

Yes I can agree there can be positive uses for AI, but I don't really see any transparency from current AI companies to trust them.

jaschen ,

Unfortunately, that ship has already sailed. AI will be a disruptor. You not using it won't change anything. Only laws and legislative action will fix things.

nutsack ,

it's a penis in the door 🚪

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

JFC

BurnedDonut ,

I mean who is surprised at this point?

PlantDadManGuy ,

That's the problem. They keep pushing this shit until people get desensitized and see it as "normal." We absolutely need to shout and rant about this ridiculous crap, everytime.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.

Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.

neo ,

No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It's "edge computing". Which would imply to me that it runs on my router...? Anyway, it's not the cloud, it's edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don't worry. You won't need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍

thetreesaysbark ,

Jesus Christ. All these requirements for something most people didn't ask for:

System requirements for Recall

Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:

A Copilot+ PC

16 GB RAM

8 logical processors

256 GB storage capacity

    To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free

    Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space
Spider2013 ,

I’ll just stick with my 4-core cpu then…
Edit: is logical both core and threads?

Pogogunner ,

Yes. A CPU has both physical cores and logical threads. These are both considered logical CPUs.

For example, if you ran cat /proc/cpuinfo on Linux you would see something like this (First processor is processor 0)

processor : 23

model name : AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor

So your 4 core CPU likely has hyperthreading and would meet the requirements for Microsoft recall

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

At least hopefully companies will stop selling laptops with 8Gb of soldered ram.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

Sounds like the way around this is to make swap space take up the drive up to 24 GB. Then trim the swap space as you need it.

I know it says "to enable" but let's be real here. It's going to be a placebo switch.

bionicjoey , (edited )

I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't have fixed-size swap. It uses pagefiles.

Edit: apparently pagefiles can be given a static size as well.

iamjackflack ,

This can be specified manually to be static

bionicjoey ,

Oh, neat! I had no idea. Still, the term "swap" would be incorrect.

ChanSecodina ,

A “swap” file is for holding pages of memory that have been swapped from RAM to disk.

lightnsfw ,

Every update :

"Let's get Recall set up for you!!!!" <microscopic cancel button>

CosmicTurtle0 ,

If it's anything like the "sign into your Microsoft account to continue" bullshit, there will be no cancel button. You'll need to cast an archaic spell where you summon a spirit from the Netherworld, who then just gives you a 60 minute lecture on enshitification and why you should install Arch.

lemmytellyousomething ,

Microscopic "Maybe later" button in the USA...

Normal sized "No" button in Europe...

Voroxpete ,

Europe keeps on proving that we can in fact regulate these companies, and it's fucking pathetic how the US and Canada don't.

librejoe ,

Wait for them to find a way that everyone will run out and buy 1k+ laptops now. Disregarding privacy, most people only need Chromebooks nowadays.

Valmond ,

That's a quite normal PC right? Not that I want it though lol good heavens.

When I think about it my daily only have 4 cores, oh no cant use it (I'm on Linux too, so sad ).

Or am I missing something with "copilot pc", does it have to have som special hardware? Asking out of morbid curiosity.

Voroxpete ,

Yeah, it has to have certain specific types of CPU. They're making this a requirement for all Windows 11 machines if you want to keep receiving security updates. It's going to create a mountain of e-waste.

fine_sandy_bottom ,

They're not amazing specs. All but the most budget of PCs sold in 2024 would have those specs.

It's notable as a required minimum though. There's an implication (not necessarily true) that at some times this feature may require a significant portion of those resources.

Like if your browser was burning away on 8 cores using 16g of RAM you'd notice.

XEAL ,

So Windows 11 has a built-in keylogger!

Rinox ,

If only that. This is much more invasive

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