Unfortunately, the US political system does not have a feature to "dislike" all the candidates. Not without a major, probably bloody, revolution, anyway. Your choice is to support and pick one candidate, or let everyone else pick the candidate for you.
You can always write in your own candidate. Not that it's likely to sway the vote in any significant way, but at least it might help you feel better about your choice.
Even though I'm a Libertarian in the strictest sense I find this both true and quite funny. DJT is just as bad or worse than Biden. DJT himself has stated that he went to St. James island [aka orgy island] TWICE. It's just like in sinning against GOD...the first look isn't sinning, but when you look the 2nd time then it's a sin. DJT is similar to a DON in a mafia, but he is just the DON of the deep state. The only way to stop Trump is to declare the 2020 election in his favor, HOWEVER since he voluntarily left the oath of office for the Biden admin DJT cannot be legally elected a 3rd term. He would be disqualified.
Telling the DNC that you and most people will vote for him unconditionally is sabotaging his chances; the dems need to understand they cannot win if they continue the path they're on, and telling them otherwise is counterproductive.
Silencing criticism of millions isn't gonna win an election. Doing the things the people whose votes you need are telling you to do will.
Well, the problem is, the way the US sees it, keeping Israel as an ally is more important than Joe Biden. Yes, even if that means fascism comes humping an American flag. You can still be at the top of the postwar order with a fascist in charge!
If public sentiment is "everyone's gonna vote for Biden no matter what", they're not gonna change the course, and then be shocked when they get blown out worse than they did in 2016.
If the public sentiment is that we're gonna vote for Biden no matter what, then when the election comes we'll vote for Biden ....no matter what.
What you're describing is if the DNC hear "blue no matter who", but what they hear isn't reflective of reality. Meanwhile, what we want is for everyone to vote blue no matter who, but give the DNC a good scare into getting their act together.
So what we absolutely need to do is be critical of Biden when the DNC are watching, but stress the dangers of a Trump presidency when they're not paying attention.
And the DNC are not on Lemmy. So Lemmy is where we should say blue no matter who. We can go criticise Biden on Facebook or whatever boomers use these days. But there's no point in it on Lemmy, except when we're saying to vote for him in the election and kill him in the revolution.
The problem is that people are dumb, and plenty are legitimately not planning on voting for Biden now.
If and when Biden deals with Gaza, everyone with this mindset immediately needs to turn around and start sucking off Biden with previously unseen vigor and determination, otherwise this is only going to damage his chance of being elected. Hell, even then I still see some damage being done.
It just seems irresponsible to spread this message, especially when people like OP seem to genuinely believe it. Pick a less blatantly fascist opponent than Trump to do this with ffs
If and when Biden deals with Gaza, everyone with this mindset immediately needs to turn around and start sucking off Biden with previously unseen vigor and determination, otherwise this is only going to damage his chance of being elected.
There's tens of thousands of mostly children dead, and Israel is using famine and disease to wipe out the rest, no shit it damages Biden's chances if his actions come this late. Especially if Biden's answer to Gaza is ship Israel weapons more quietly while claiming to hold up shipments, while Israel starves Gaza out.
Then again, if Biden stops the money and arms to Israel, and sanctions Israel, and Trump responds by promising money and arms to Israel so they can resume the genocide, I don't see how anyone could not vote Biden.
What more can be done? We are already sending 100% of the weapons, money, and diplomatic support Israel needs. We're already bombing Yemen for taking actions to stop Israel and shooting down Iranian drones trying to stop them. Is Trump going to do the same thing, but be proud of it?
Shit I can't even say that, Biden is extremely proud of his support for Israel. Trump is simply going to be more obnoxious about it.
Lesser evilism isn't gonna win an election when your lesser evil is already genocide.
Nobody thinks its a magic bullet, we're all looking for the next rung that leads us closer to a happy democracy. None of us are looking for instant easy solutions, we're trying to iterate and be better.
Obligatory: "Ranked Choice" is a specific use of ranked ballots. It's subpar. It beats what we're doing now, but anything beats what we're doing now.
What you want is a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs, where the winner is whoever beats everyone else. RCV just picks whoever can scrounge together 50% first. RCV would not elect a candidate who is literally everyone's second choice. Ranked Pairs would.
The simple alternative is Approval Voting, where you let people check all the names they like. It matches Condorcet results... somehow. There is no good reason we're not using it everywhere.
Approval Voting seems to just dilute your vote the more candidates you vote for. Candidates will tell people people to only place one vote. What a silly system.
But ranked choice is easy to implement and in practice if everyone would put a candidate second they aren't likely to be knocked out in the first round. There are very limited practical examples where it doesn't provide the optimal outcome.
It also seems to have some level of support and momentum in the US and it seems to me like it'd be better not to get caught in the weeds fighting over which new voting system should be implemented there.
This is absurd. Take a look at the polls. There is only one 3rd-party candidate with double digit percentages. Do you really think JFK is taking more votes from Biden than Trump?
I never made any indication on how I'm voting. I'm just tired of this baseless claim that voting 3rd party only helps Trump. Polls excluding 3rd-parties show Trump significantly further ahead than those with 3rd-parties. Therefore, Biden's only chance of winning is due to JFK capturing conservative votes.
What is "how America works" in this context? You seem to be trying to make the point that 3rd-party voting only hurts Biden. I'm pointing to recent polling that shows that, when 3rd-party options are included, Biden's margins get closer to victory. You should be thanking 3rd-parties if you are hoping for a Biden victory.
A different way to think about it - most of the intended audience on Lemmy, and especially in this community, would've voted democrat instead of republican. So from the frame of reference of this post, most folks here claiming to vote third party did in fact have their vote "taken" from Biden.
"No Joeboy, i don't like it that you killed all the brown kids on the playground. But since you are my favorite child we will still get ice cream for you now."
Would you parent a child like this? It is doomed to fail. You are all setting yourself up to continuously get fucked by both the DNC and the Reps.
One of two people is going to be in charge of the country seven months from now. You can have the boring liberal with an awful allegiance to a questionable ally run by a power-hungry bastard... or you can have our very own power-hungry bastard, who is also going to give the aforementioned bastard everything he wants.
Someone is getting that ice cream. Let's make it the kid who is trying to murder the parents and take over the family and will kill even more brown kids while throwing tantrums.
And that is your failure as a people. You raised your politicians into knowing that they will get their ice cream regardless of what they do. And you are currently reinforcing it, instead of saying: You have 5 month to fix your shit. If you fix it, there will be a big bucket of ice cream, otherwise no.
No, that's the system we inherited. And some of us are working to fix it. Later this year one of those two kids is getting that ice cream no matter what I say about it. To pretend otherwise makes you an idiot, a liar, or a jackass.
Your failures as a person are bad analogies, bad analysis, and ignoring the fact that anything else we do kills even more brown people. But I suspect that's what you like. You're mad he's not killing enough of them.
So be mad. You're a bad actor and this conversation is over. I'm not responding to you for you, but for anyone else reading that wants to know why you love killing brown people.
Edit: Downvotes from people who are trying to get extra genocide because there's not enough currently are absolutely welcome. I'm glad you disagree with me.
Its literally impossible for democrats to not spread disinformation about leftists by claiming anyone who doesn't vote Biden is actively advocating for not voting. Hell I see a bunch of it in this comment section.
Democrats will claim they aren't fascist but they can't help but check off all the bullet points.
The timing maybe? I've been saying Biden is the worst example of a democrat since the Obama days, and got downvoted about pointing out his bullshit. His contribution to the drug war alone is atrocious. But I kept getting down voted for saying it. Suddenly now it's election time, second go round, and here comes everyone jumping on Biden. Seems sus.
Huh? That's what I'm saying, Biden is a saint compared to Trump. It's just sus that right now, at election time 2024 is when it's suddenly a big deal. It only benefits Trump
Your wording was probably a little confusing, I read "jumping on Biden" initially as in "voting / rooting for him", but you likely meant it in the context of them "questioning everything he does". Depending which one is used changes your phrasing from criticizing Biden to supporting him.
Thing is, the absolutely worst things that he's done throughout his career have been pretty mainstream at the time. Like that omnibus crime bill? That was overwhelmingly supported, with only very, very limited Democratic opposition in very limited areas. (And a lot of black communities still support 'tough on crime' approaches because they look at the short term rather than the long.)
Even the support of Israel is pretty middle-of-the-road. Most Dems still support Israel, even while being appalled at the indiscriminate nature of Israel's violence in Gaza
To everyone in this thread, whoever you are or are not voting for: what is your plan if Trump wins? I think everyone agrees that it is pretty much 50/50 on him winning. What do you plan to do about the coming total fascist hellscape? Do you have plans and means to emigrate? Are you buying guns and ammo? Are you just gonna go along to get along?
Picking up my shit and moving to the EU, maybe northern Spain. I have zero idea how to buy housing there (I’m a citizen though) but a bit of uncertainty is better than the alternative.
Well, if the Tories get back in then deporting people to Rwanda and expansion of oil drilling in the north sea will be guaranteed.
Voting for lab, there is a chance that these will be cancelled.
Tories have had decades in charge, and shit is fucked.
Labour are more progressive - not enough for my taste, but better than constant austerity
