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fpslem ,

Who else watched this and thought of the jailbreak scene at the beginning of The Goonies?

https://youtu.be/Fh2AvpJTIrA?si=98vVWYEbQjx9gqzl&t=227

Peter1986C ,
@Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

no idea what models of truck these were if the drivers were good at drag racing

What? This is extremely poor phrasing if you ask me.

NikkiDimes ,

To be fair to the Cybertruck, we’ve got no idea what models of truck these were, if the drivers were good at drag racing and driving on sand, or even how long the race was.

Honestly, the sentence just needs some punctuation and it's fine.

JamesTBagg ,

I hate the Cybertruck as much as the next guy, but this could really boil down to just tire choice and nothing more.

fpslem ,

Good point. As I understand it, the Cybertruck's stock tires are not, in fact, a good tire choice.

https://jalopnik.com/cybertrucks-keep-getting-stuck-in-snow-1851148697

Delusional ,

Cyber truck stock anything isn't a good choice.

ILikeBoobies ,

It’s more pedestrian safe than the other one in the video

radicalautonomy ,

So the Cybertruck is not that fast and the CEO of the company that makes it is a jamoke, big deal. At least it looks stupid.

Lianodel ,

I do appreciate the fact that the Cybertruck was so clearly designed by someone who had no idea how to design a car, and that it's Musk's pet project. It really drives another nail in the coffin of the idea that he deserves all the credit for the work his companies do.

Then again, his most die-hard supporters draw no distinction between ownership and labor. They're also somehow able to look at a Cybertruck and think "Wow!" rather than "Wow, is this some kind of a joke?"

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

I used to kinda like it because it was wrong and dumb, but I'd only ever get a horribly ugly statement car if it combined terrible aesthetics with good performance and build quality.

Lucidlethargy ,
@Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works avatar

Man, that last part...

I honestly think owners of these things are just edgelords. It's for desperate, middle-aged men.

technocrit ,

The point is to save car dependency, not the planet.

ATDA ,

I mean I'm more of a car guy so trucks and off roading aren't my specialty but a vehicle built by a company that's done it for a century vs a pissboy.

Shocker...

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Wait the cybertruck doesn't even have all wheel drive?

jokersteve ,

Of course it has all wheel drive, the RWD version isn't in production for quite some time.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You are right thanks for the correction. I misinterpreted this line

However, I’ve got to think here the big differentiator here was the Lightning’s all-wheel-drive system, which is almost certainly better at tacking loose surfaces than the Cybertruck’s.

jaschen ,

Not a Tesla fan but this is a stupid article. Driving on sand is 100% driver skills and tires. You could have a McLaren and a smart car with sand tires and the smart would win all day.

ringwraithfish ,

Tesla has branded it as a truck. As a layman who isn't a Tesla simp or a motorhead, I would expect a comparison with other popular trucks if I were interested in learning more about it.

jaschen ,

It is a truck. Not all trucks can drive in sand. It all comes down to driver skills and whatever tire is used on it. Who knows what tires the Ford is running.

Shit, I have seen two identical cars with identical tires and except one had lower tire pressure. The lower tire pressure won every time.

This is a stupid article designed for you guys to circlejerk on a brand. I mean enjoy the jerk. Elon deserves it. But don't make it seem like it's scientific. It's just a circlejerk.

Kimano ,

The driver skill is hard to control, but I would assume they had equal pressure in the tires, or at least close enough. There's also more things that matter like tire width, lockers, horsepower, weight etc.

Even if it's not a perfectly scientific test, it can still be interesting

ringwraithfish ,

a couple of owners decided to race their trucks

in this rather unscientific race

Did you even read the article? The author was very upfront about the context.

You're the type of person that wants everyone to min/max everything and say "yeah but if this had happened" or "if they had done this differently"

Get down off your soapbox and appreciate this for what it was: two owners having a fun race for bragging rights. And if Ford comes out in a better light from it than Tesla, that's not circle jerking over a brand, it's just another anecdote to pile on top of all of the other stories about how piss poor the Cybertruck is at being an actual truck.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Not a very "apocalypse proof" vehicle, as Musk called it, if it can't drive in sand...

abracaDavid ,

That's just not true. Sand is a power hog. Sucks up horsepower like nobody's business. You gotta have some juice to move with wheels effectively.

ShepherdPie ,

It's absolutely true. I used to drive my 6,000 lb squarebody all over the Oregon sand dunes in 2wd because it had big, wide tires that I'd drop down to 10 PSI. This had a stock small block V8 that probably put out a whopping 150HP.

Just tire pressure alone can make or break even the most capable vehicle. You need to float on the surface, not dig in. Street tire pressure will make your vehicle dig in and get stuck immediately regardless of weight or horsepower.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

At what PSI are you almost just driving on the rims? I get that on sand that wouldn't be an issue, but 10psi sounds like rims on a road to me?

ShepherdPie ,

I don't have an exact number but it was fine with my tires. Newer, low profile tires can't do it because the sidewalls are so short but the tires on the CT look meaty enough to handle these low pressures.

The issue is more about popping the bead off the wheel than your wheel touching the ground.

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

I'd be surprised if the Tesla would even let you run on 10 psi. I bet it'd throw an error message and brick the accelerator.

LEDZeppelin ,

That explains why Elon suddenly came out against drag 😉

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

....bravo.

Num10ck ,

in sand, weighing 2000 pounds more matters. so does grappler tires.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Yes, this race was already lost on paper. The execution frankly was likely just an excuse for some folks to dust off their Maga hats and crack open some beers.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

Suburban moms: i cant get an EV, what if i need to do sand drag racing

Ragnarok314159 ,

Sand drag racing at the end of a long road trip. It’s just not practical!

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Is this podracing?

TheHottub ,
@TheHottub@lemmy.world avatar

Now THIS is pod racing.

Tylerdurdon ,

They filled the truck beds with a bunch of fish. It's actually cod racing.

RandomStickman ,
@RandomStickman@kbin.run avatar

Actually they filled the truck beds with grass-covered surface soil. It's actually sod racing.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

Wrong again, they filled both trucks with metal poles, this is rod racing.

ironhydroxide ,

Still wrong, the beds are obviously empty.
Only some people can enter this race, this is Todd racing.

ccunning ,

Turns out the beds are filled with the discarded shells from shucking peas. This is Pod Racing…

MrQuallzin ,

Nah, they actually filled them with collectible cardboard bottle caps. This is POG Racing

Soggy ,

It was a convoluted Dutch smuggling operation, the event was a cover. This is clog racing.

Imgonnatrythis ,

These are all lies to cover up that each truck was filled with one obese dead body. This is called bod racing.

genuineparts ,
@genuineparts@infosec.pub avatar

Those are priests behind the wheel of those cars. It's God Racing.

partial_accumen ,

The bed of each truck is filled with a family of dolphins. This is pod racing.

barsquid ,

It has to be a sand race because the Cybertruck gets completely disabled from moisture.

Thorny_Insight ,

I'm out of the loop on this one..?

mean_bean279 ,

A cyber truck had a major malfunction and stopped working because it went into a car wash without being in “car wash” mode. The joke is that Cybertrucks cannot get wet.

Thorny_Insight , (edited )

Ah.. If I remember correctly; not being in a carwash mode caused the screen to freeze and because of a bug the hard reset took hours instead of minutes. The car was back up and running the next day and I believe the bug has been patched as well

EDIT: Imagine the bubble you're in when downvoting factual information is the norm.

prettybunnys ,

That’s not something that should happen to a car that is on the road.

catloaf ,

Technically a car wash is not the road. Checkmate, atheists.

Passerby6497 ,

Waiting for the day we see the advisement to put the Tesla into carwash mode during heavy rainfalls.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

But the Cybertruck is advertised as an off-road vehicle. Elonvangelists in shambles.

Thorny_Insight , (edited )

It did not. The vehicle was in the owner's garage. I believe it was water in the charging port that caused the front screen to freeze up. Everything else was working normally.

prettybunnys ,

That doesn’t improve things.

And by production car on the road I mean “by a car that is in production and allowed to drive on the road” though I admit it was vague and easy to take literally in that regard.

Soggy ,

Unacceptable behavior for a vehicle.

buttfarts ,

Personally I would enjoy spending $100k+ to get to be the beta tester for a half-baked product

SkaveRat ,

Don't worry, the guy who came up with the Idea was fully baked

FordBeeblebrox ,

My “car wash mode” is rolling up the windows, haven’t ever had the car I own brick itself on me.

experbia ,
@experbia@lemmy.world avatar

wow. does the factory that made it have absolutely no quality control processes in place? I would be embarrassed to own a vehicle that did that, and more than a little worried about its safety.

Fizz ,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Its embarrassing that people are downvoting a post providing context. They're acting like you are here defending the cyber truck.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,
demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

complaining about downvotes usually gets you more downvotes more often than not

Thorny_Insight ,

It's not the downvotes that's the issue. It's the insanity of being blinded by hatred to the point of not being able to think straight anymore.

demonsword ,
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

you might disagree with me here, but IMO hating Musk (or any billionaire) is morally right though

Thorny_Insight ,

Hate is a toxic emotion. It poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected.

Also as I don't believe in free will, hate is an uncompatible concept with my world view anyway. It assumes the person I'm directing my anger towards is personally responsible for who they are. In my view they could not be otherwise. I wouldn't hate a bear for being violent so I also don't hate Musk for being an asshole.

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

How does one not believe in free will? Asking seriously.

Thorny_Insight , (edited )

Just a heads up that this topic makes some people feel really uncomfortable to think about.

It's because I don't think the "self" exists either. Without a self there's nothing that even could make decisions to begin with. I don't believe in some "entity" or a "soul" somewhere inside our heads, behind our faces, looking out into the world and making independent decisions. We're not authoring our thoughts and actions. They're just appearing. You don't know what you're going to think next, and you can't think of a thought before you think it. You can even observe this happening in real time by just paying close enought attention.

We're biological beings that consist of matter, and matter obeys the laws of physics. "Free will" as in "I could've done otherwise" doesn't make any logical sense to me. If we could go back in time we'd all do the same things all over again. That's how deterministic universe works. The key factor here is consciousness. It feels like something to be. The sense of free will is probably useful belief for survival, but for the very least I'd argue that it's not like most people think it is.

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

That's an interesting take. Strikes me as a bit nihilistic, but I'm sure this is the most surface of explanations lacking the depth of concept to really get the idea across. I can't say it jives with me, but I have heard less reasonable notions.

Thorny_Insight , (edited )

Yeah I find it interesting how many see the idea as negative. I find it freeing in many ways and it helps me make much better sense of the world and people, I think.

Sam Harris can explain it better than I ever could in case you're interested.

Pat_Riot ,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

I'll give him a listen. I enjoy hearing different points of view.

MojoMcJojo ,

Thank you for the fact check

AbidanYre ,

They also rust, like, instantly.

boonhet ,

Because the stainless steel is not stainless and a protective coating is optional, not standard like... you know, on every other car.

timmy_dean_sausage ,

Well, it's very meaningful to continue to support your emotional support corporations. They need us as much as we need them. That's why you need to buy the product, and the "continued use" package. They're not charging extra for standard things just to charge extra. It's about the continued closeness in your relationship with daddy Tesla.

JayleneSlide ,

Stainless steel that gets coated is no longer stainless steel. Stainless steel requires exposure to sufficient oxygen in order to maintain the protective oxide layer.

These are rudder bolts from the same gudgeon on my sailboat. The black stuff is anoxic corrosion.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/bf2c084d-120d-4e44-827a-d03d26f12804.png

boonhet ,

TIL.

I suppose that's why nobody makes car body panels out of it.

Lianodel ,

And will get stained by tree sap. You should avoid the extreme use-case of parking near trees.

It's also why I love the fact that it has a tent accessory, despite being a car that can't handle being outside.

Thorny_Insight ,

Except it doesn't. It's not the body panels that are rusting. It's the airborne iron particles (mostly) from brake rotors that land on the stainless steel and react with it causing rust but it's actually just surface contamination and cleans up rather easily. This is in no way issue exclusive to the Cybertruck. It just doesn't react like that on a painted surface. Fallout remover is a commonly used product among car detailers.

JohnEdwa ,
@JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz avatar

Which is doubly funny when you remember Elon claimed at one point the Cybertruck could be used as a boat.

joneskind ,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

It rusts under the rain

Thorny_Insight ,

Yeah but surely not to the point of getting disabled?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

oh, they shut off in the rain too.

SecretSauces ,
@SecretSauces@lemmy.world avatar

You forgot to turn on Rain Mode

afraid_of_zombies ,

I saw one painted this weekend. Is the factory finally painting them or is it aftermarket?

JJROKCZ ,

I’ve seen people putting wraps on them as well in my city. Probably trying to hide the rust since it’s rains quite a bit here

leftzero ,

To be fair, it also rusts when not under the rain.

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Finally we've found the perfect car for Ben Shapiro's wife

Notyou ,
@Notyou@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ben Shapiro's Doctor wife

FTFY

Badeendje ,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

Nonsense design vanity project made for toddler CEO underperforms in comparison to actual pickup designed and built by manufacturer of the top selling pickup.. who would have guessed.

Buffalox ,

I bet Musk thought he was a genius that could revolutionize trucks, just like Apple revolutionized smartphones.
I admit I still think the model S was pretty cool originally, but now there are better offers IMO, BMW and Audi have some very nice upper middle class cars, that I doubt very much Tesla can match the quality of. If money is not a problem, I'd go with a Mercedes. For a cheaper practical everyday car, I'd go with VW or Hyundai.

But goddam I just tried my neighbors BMW I4- eDrive 40, that's an amazing car with great range IMO. I've never been in a car that was that silent smooth and comfortable, and yet had stellar grip and handling. Even when you fired it up with everything it has, it was still quiet, you just felt the pressure of acceleration in the back. 😋

mortemtyrannis ,

Well that BMW i4 is almost as smooth as this Marlboro cigarette that I’m enjoying right now.

I tell you, nothing helps relax you more than unwinding with a Marlboro cigarette. The rich full flavour and slow toasted leaves with the extra fine filter ensures I get the best experience. Every time.

Marlboro. It’s what Lemmy users prefer™

Steak ,

Smoking is dumb as shit dude

Getting6409 ,

I think they're suggesting the BMW comment reads like an ad by responding like an ad.

Steak ,

Ahhh I'm dumb as shit dude

Getting6409 ,

Sounds like you don't smoke cigarettes, so not that dumb!

Drummyralf ,

Got big Mad Men vibes from this.

QuadratureSurfer ,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Once again, the Simpsons predicted the future:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPc-VEqBPHI

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