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sabreW4K3 , to Privacy in I built the first 100% private, on-device "For You" feed on the fediverse
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Is it just a front-end or are there backend changes?

I like it for the most part. I dislike that you can't find the real URL of anything though

Aurelius OP ,
@Aurelius@lemmy.world avatar

All front-end.

And thanks for the feedback. Can you elaborate what you mean by "can't find the real URL of anything"?

sabreW4K3 ,
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So I opened the link and was scrolling through the front page and eventually saw a community that I'd never seen before, so I wanted to take a look. I opened it and couldn't see what instance it was hosted on. When I tried to share it to myself, it still wouldn't give me the original instance URL. I found that super frustrating.

SatansMaggotyCumFart , to 196 in Fast food prices are fucking insane {late stage ruleism}

It’s because they had to increase the minimum wage €0.20/hr.

maaneeack ,

I hope you're joking.

KISSmyOSFeddit ,

No, it's because millennials are killing the fast food industry with their avocado toasts and veganism.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
@Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca avatar

And all them dang computer cars that run on elecktrickery.

maaneeack , to 196 in Fast food prices are fucking insane {late stage ruleism}

Corporate greed is the issue. It's greedflation not inflation. Two combos from Wendy's and a baked potato was $28.80. It's insane.

737 OP ,

late stage ruleism

idkmybffjoeysteel , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
@idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net avatar

Shame
YouTube and other sites are completely fucked on Firefox.

hungrybread ,

Are they? I watch YouTube on Firefox all the time, seems fine on my machine.

I think maybe 5+ years ago there were some performance issues caused by YT relying on features that were only implemented in Chrome, but I don't recall having any issues wrt that for years.

courier8377 ,

Yeah especially with user agent switcher google services run fine if needed

RoabeArt ,

I wouldn't say "completely fucked", but for a few years I noticed YouTube on Firefox has this occasional quirk where videos will quit playing and infinitely buffer at the exact same timestamp. Like there's no way around it except skipping about 30 seconds ahead with the seek bar, or doing a Ctrl-F5 (hard refresh) and starting the whole video over. Opera GX doesn't seem to have this problem at all.

But it's still not a big enough deal to make me give up Firefox completely.

space_comrade ,

Wym? Youtube works just fine for me with uBlock Origin. Very rarely there's some wonkiness but nothing unbearable.

idkmybffjoeysteel ,
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I've got uBlock and Privacy Badger but turning them off or going incognito doesn't help at all. The most common issue I get with YouTube is the video keeps freezing. Apparently this is because Google deliberately fuck it so that other browsers have to play catch up constantly. I have heard this is why Microsoft gave up and adopted Chromium.

The other issue is that if I open more than one YouTube tab my laptop sounds like it is about to take off into space. I can have an unlimited number of tabs from any other website open though.

space_comrade , (edited )

Sounds to me like some hardware issue, I've literally never experienced any of this in the last 5 years on Firefox. My guess is considering it works fine with other browsers the graphics drivers are a bit wonky, or maybe Firefox is falling back to software rendering for some reason. Are you using Linux or Windows?

thesohoriots , to 196 in Fast food prices are fucking insane {late stage ruleism}

There was a period in the 90s where either Wednesdays or Thursdays you could get a hamburger for .29¢ and a cheeseburger for .39¢ which is about all they’re worth.

RagnarokOnline ,

Was gonna post this

suzune , to 196 in Fast food prices are fucking insane {late stage ruleism}
@suzune@ani.social avatar

Ffs make your own burger. It takes a few minutes. Toast a sesam roll. Fry some meat with salt and pepper with cheese on top. Cut an onion, tomato and add some mayonnaise.

That's all. It's more tasty than those horrible McD burgers. And at least you know what you put inside.

GolfNovemberUniform , to Privacy in I built the first 100% private, on-device "For You" feed on the fediverse
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So it's fully local right? That's a really awesome system then. I'd probably recommend encrypting the data but that's not really necessary

Aurelius OP ,
@Aurelius@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, 100% completely local to your device alone

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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I don't understand why nobody did it in the past. It makes the experience so much better for normal users. I hope this becomes mainstream. Btw does it have any automatic analytics cache cleaning or something like that (so it doesn't grow 20 gigs of it in a year)? If so, make sure it cleans it periodically and not immediately when a piece of data becomes unneeded. On low end devices frequent write/delete cycles can be an issue

bruhduh , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
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Everything enshitifies... Everything, problem that worries me that, Firefox will enshitify like this too one day

FlexibleToast ,

At that point it will be forked yet again, and that fork will take over. Mozilla is a very active open source member though.

voodooattack ,

Then it will be forked and the cycle continues.

bruhduh ,
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

How close did we come to being a footnote in the history of a future species that would happen upon our ruins ten thousand years from now? Would they indulge in the fiction of their own immortality until the Shivans came for them? And how long had this gone on? Did the Ancients stumble upon the monoliths and the tombs of their predecessors in this distant corner of space, dismissing the warnings carved into the walls of the sepulchre? And when the destroyers came at last, what did the Ancients think as they sifted the cremation of dust and bones, staring into the mute remains for a key; some solution to their plight?

What if there had been countless races stretching back into infinity? And like the nine cities of Troy each civilization had been built on the rubble of one that came before. Each annihilated by the Shivans.

The Ancients died eight thousand years ago, as humanity emerged from its neolithic infancy. They believed their voyage across the sea of stars awoke the dragon that slept beneath the waves. That the Shivans were birthed from the flux of subspace and their destruction was the revenge of an angry cosmos.

Ephera ,

Mozilla has no traditional profit motive. The Mozilla Corporation, which develops Firefox, is a 100% subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, which is legally a non-profit organisation.

So, if the Mozilla Corporation makes a profit, they cannot pay out that profit to shareholders. Practically all they can do with that money, is to pay higher wages or set it aside for future invest in their products.

That does not mean that they cannot stagnate or use money badly. And it does not either mean that they never need to make money. But it does mean that there's no shareholders demanding short-term profit above all else.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for new info, i didn't know about that, but it's not what I'm worried, I'm worried about manifest v3 going forced by Google and other corpos and being adopted by Firefox, but we still have dns adblockers for now, like pihole and such

Vendetta9076 , to Privacy in DeAmazoning a FireTV
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just dont plug it into the internet and hook up a pi.

TeddE ,
@TeddE@lemmy.world avatar

I have a similar use case, what do you recommend on the pi for a TV OS?

Vendetta9076 ,
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I would just use kodi honestly. You can hook jellyfin into it

digdilem ,

Why use kodi *and *jellyfin? Jellyfin is its own thing, and without all the awful cruft that comes with Kodi.

It also has native apps for windows, linux and... FireTv.

ForgotAboutDre ,

There isn’t a good way to get the jellyfin app running on a properly open and free os. You need an android tv box, fire tv, Apple TV, the tv os or something similar. You could run it on Linux, but there isn’t a good well supported out of the box works with tv os like Kodi offers with libreElec.

Android may be open source but not the setup to make it work with a tv well. If you want privacy on a tv you need kodi.

digdilem ,

So you're using Kodi as the OS on the TV itself? Not the Kodi App or Kodi backend?

I'm still struggling to understand how that would work, and still have Jellyfin in the mix - could you please explain exactly what you mean?

ForgotAboutDre ,

There are is that a properly open source and free that support Kodi without much configuration.

Nothing like that exists for jellyfin apps. You have to use one of the prosperity operating systems to use the jellyfin app with a tv first os.

Successful_Try543 , (edited )

OSMC (Debian based), if you want to install additional software or LibeELEC if you like to use only Kodi.

steersman2484 ,

You can look into Plasma Bigscreen

Yerbouti , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

People saying FF is slower: like how much slower, are we taking like 14 millisecond slower? Cause everything seems pretty instantaneous here. Maybe its because i'm old enough to remember DSL and 56k internet, but I think FF os crazy fast and even if Chrome would be 25% faster I wouldn't swith to evil google for that.

redcalcium ,

It used to be a lot slower, which is why when Chrome showed up with its shiny new V8 engine (and other features) people switched from Firefox en masse. Now the performance difference is no longer noticeable.

celeste ,

Ye a few months ago I remember that the benchmarks showed firefox was just as fast as chrome again or minimally faster/slower in certain benchmarks

qprimed ,

61 Firefox windows and 427 tabs (don't judge, I know I have a problem) and I have no performance complaints - admittedly, not all of them are active/rendering simultaniously, but still...

Firefox (and its forks) have been my go-to for 15 years.

smowtenshi ,
@smowtenshi@lemmy.world avatar

I'm actually interested what you have open with this many windows.

qprimed , (edited )

indeed! had I not posted this, I would be asking the same question!

so, its quite a bit more mundane than you might have hoped for.

a mix of...

  • ~40% locally served internal pages (mostly zabbix, mail/web server monitoring, some development pages, etc).
  • ~60% non-local pages - currently lots of retro computing stuff, debian stuff, github (sigh)

the most recent page I opened was an archive.org page on TI-84 firmware disassembly.

I make heavy use of Firefox containers for separation. honestly, Firefox is an absolute workhorse for me. if the Firefox ecosystem were to fall into the void, I would be dead in the water.

Xatolos ,
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Last time I tried it? Like freeze and be unresponsive on my phone for seconds at a time slow. (My phone doesn't lock up though, I can still go to the home screen, swipe to see notifications so it's not the phone locking up completely)

BarbecueCowboy ,

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Chrome-109-Benchmarks

I wish firefox was faster but benchmarks are pretty common, it's not hard to test. It's kind of an unfair fight at this point honestly, large swaths of the web are just built for chrome. There are other benchmark options out there, but even using Mozilla's own kraken benchmarking solution, it loses tremendously more than it wins. I honestly really respect them for not building their benchmarking system to make their solutions come out on top.

In some benchmarks the lag from firefox is very significant and then on the other hand, when firefox does win, chrome is usually right behind it. It's not ideal.

whotookkarl , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
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If you're switching a couple extensions are uBlock origin and no script with Firefox, prevents most ads and lets you choose which hosts to accept JavaScript from temporarily or permanently.

qprimed , (edited )

noscript is your web condom. I will not touch a page without it.

wafflez ,

Do you need noscript if you have ublock?

erev ,
@erev@lemmy.world avatar

yes, noscript blocks all javascript from running unless allowed, while ublock just blocks ads and trackers to my knowledge.

uhN0id ,

Would noscript allow you to block things like when a site packs your history with their website making it impossible to back out to the page you came from? How does it work considering so many sites now are built with JavaScript libraries like React?

whotookkarl , (edited )
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

I dunno about the history but single page apps like react apps you can just accept the JS from the actual host in the address bar and leave all the rest turned off. Just tested on twitch. Accepting no JS loaded the home page and a spinner gif after selecting a stream. Accepted just twitch.tv and I could see the video stream and chat without having to accept any of the other hosts blocked.

smowtenshi ,
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You can set uBlock to disable/enable JavaScript per site too, as per wiki page.

Tenkard ,

You can use the advanced mode of ublock to replace noscript too

Valmond ,

I use ghostery to remove the obnoxious cookie popups here in the EU.

HKPiax , (edited ) to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
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I love Firefox, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is slower on YouTube. My tinfoil hat theory is that Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

cowfodder ,

I'm pretty sure someone discovered that is true recently, but can't be assed to try to find it right now.

steersman2484 ,
ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

They used to also use the unreleased version 0 of shadow DOM for building the Polymer UI, which - being a Chrome-only prototype - understandably didn't work on Firefox, and therefore instead used a really slow Javascript polyfill to render its UI.

I haven't checked on it lately, but I imagine they must've changed at least that by now.

adventor ,

Do you use YouTube so much that a small performance difference on a single Site has an influence on your browser choice?

Safipok ,

Firefox is good for webpages not web apps

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

That's a really weird take. Like… what even is the difference supposed to be?

This sounds more like “everything should be as it was back when <insert arbitrary point in time here>! When there were still Webpages, and we were frolicking about the internet! Until the fire nation attacked Web apps took over!”

Safipok ,

Basically I am saying Firefox is not as performant as chromium when loading JavaScript.

TrickDacy ,

Don't agree, nothing noticeable for me anyhow. Chrome has the ultimate drawback: being under the control of a monopolistic evil corporation

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

In general, browser benchmarks seem to often favor Firefox in terms of startup and first interaction timings, and often favor Chrome when it comes to crunching large amounts of data through JavaScript.
I.e. for pages which use small amounts of JavaScript, but call into it quickly after loading, Firefox tends to come out on top. But for pages which load lots of JavaScript and then run it constantly, Chrome tends to come out on top.

We're usually talking milliseconds-level of difference here though. So if you're using a mobile browser or a low-power laptop, then the difference is often not measurable at all, unless the page is specifically optimized for one or the other.

Onarock ,

What an oddly aggressive take on someone’s opinion

LudwigvanBeethoven ,

A web app is just a fancy name for a dynamic web page. Change my mind.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Well, Google will probably optimize their shit for their own privacy invasion sniffing tool browser twice as hard as for Firefox and such

LittleBorat2 ,

Ironically I use a chrome type browser for YouTube and mail checking only. This is also the only browser in which I am logged in with my Google account.

My main Firefox is for everything else including search.

ace ,
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One thing you can test is to apply a Chrome user-agent on Firefox when visiting YouTube. In my personal experience that actually noticeably improves the situation.

HKPiax ,
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

That’s super interesting! I’m not versed enough though, do you have like a tutorial you recommend or should I just Google it?

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

There's a bunch of extensions that allow you to switch user-agent easily, I personally use this one, it includes a list of known strings to choose between as well.

jaybone ,

And to check that it’s working, there are websites you can go to which will tell you what browser they have detected you are using.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It's not tinfoil, they have been caught doing it and they continue to do it. It's a scumbag company.

Taleya ,

How the fuck they haven't been slapped with an anticompetitive is beyon - oohh right. End stage capitalism

DarkDarkHouse ,
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I tried both and the videos played at the same speed for me

Promethiel ,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

You haven't experienced slow until you try to take Firefox through Google Cloud Console or Search Tools. 15 seconds in Chrome, somehow turns into 3 minutes in Firefox, funny how it does that.

redcalcium ,

Google does that a lot with their own web properties. I remember Google Meet didn't support background replacement on Firefox, but switching Firefox's user agent to Chrome suddenly fixed it.

voodooattack ,

Google Sheets is a mess on FF too. Cell selection is broken af.

lepinkainen ,

Same happens with Safari. The page loads in a weird funky way, video sorta first and then comments and suggestions many seconds later.

On Chrome on the exact same computer it’s instant.

They’re doing it on purpose.

FlexibleToast ,

Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

Because they do. A while back, it was discovered they were injecting delays if they detected Firefox as your user agent.

pr0927 , to Privacy in [UPDATE] Raivo wiped all of my TOTP codes

If you are on iOS, I recommend using the following:

https://ente.io/auth/

It's open-source and recommended by PrivacyGuides.

I'm on Android, where that's also an option I believe, but I'm using Aegis.

Bitwarden also came out with an open-source MFA app, though it's a bit new so I'd recommend waiting to see what folks say about it.

Raivo uses to be a good (and the only decent) choice for iOS but I believe it was acquired by an insidious company.

Charger8232 OP ,

It’s open-source and recommended by PrivacyGuides

Very helpful, thank you! Raivo was, unfortunately, sold out to a company months ago. Many people, like myself, flocked to 2FAS. It's nice to know that other options are popping up.

Lipriv30 ,

Didn’t know this had happened. Shoot.

Blisterexe ,
@Blisterexe@lemmy.zip avatar

I use bitwarden's new 2fa app and it works, no issues

ThatWeirdGuy1001 , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

I'm gonna be honest.

The main reason I don't like Firefox is the ui.

It's one of those things where I've been using chrome for so long that switching to anything else is infuriating. Trying to learn the layout and all the features. Trying to figure out how to do things that are intuitively design on Google.

If someone made pretty much a 1 to 1 copy of Google without all the bullshit I'd use it in a heartbeat.

macgyver ,
@macgyver@federation.red avatar

Well bud, you can literally customize Firefox with css. So get to learning

silasmariner ,

shots fired! Shots fired!

chocosoldier ,

fuck it, where do i start? if spending a little bit of my time writing a css sheet results in Google losing market share i'm 1000% down.

macgyver ,
@macgyver@federation.red avatar

https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/ Don’t flame me for a Reddit link lol

chocosoldier ,

not at all, thank you!

qprimed , (edited )

frantic ignoring reddit sounds

dishing out the tools to help users take back control of their lIves. hero quality.

ThatWeirdGuy1001 ,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

That's the worst part about all of this.

I don't even know what css is 😭

macgyver ,
@macgyver@federation.red avatar

It’s what makes HTML look fancy. You can also find something you already like https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/

uhN0id ,

How did I never know about this? This might make me switch to Firefox sooner than planned. Thanks for sharing!

erev ,
@erev@lemmy.world avatar

You can drag and drop your toolbar, extensions, and layout.

Klear ,

This is certainly a hurdle to overcome. Google helped by changing the Chrome UI for the worse in some ways I care about, but migrating to a new browser and getting used to different UI is enough of a hassle that I'm still holding out until adblock actually stops working before I make the switch.

olafurp , to Memes in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

FF is doing great. All the have to do now is the Steam strategy. Do nothing and wait for the competition to fuck themselves over.

unexposedhazard ,

Thats the problem tho, the new mozilla leadership is on the "do anything but nothing" ship. I really hope they either dont do anything too horrible or someone forks it if they do.

unusual_anarchist ,

there are already forks in place if you're dissatisfied with firefox like librewolf, floorp or the new one from mullvad

olafurp ,

Yeah, it's been a huge waste of resources trying to reinvent everything.

VinnyDaCat ,

You mean hope that they too don't become subject to enshittification? I don't have a lot of faith in that.

Besides that, Google is controlling as fuck. They might keep fucking themselves over but there's no way they won't start attempting to ruin things for the rest of us.

redcalcium ,

It seems Mozilla is not immune to the AI hype. I just hope their AI endeavour won't kill them when the AI hype finally ends.

kuberoot ,

Thankfully the AI use is very tame so far, used for stuff like offline alt text generation and offline translation. I'm personally still concerned about copyrights and ethics of the models used, but at least it's directed towards providing specific features, not a magic cure-all.

redcalcium ,

I'm more concerned with Mozilla spending its meager resources to chase some fads instead of focusing on improving firefox.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

to be fair they are tge only ones i know of putting it to actual good use

chiliedogg ,

Steam's strategy was to be first to market and essentially the only player in the game for a decade, making themselves the default.

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